COVID-19 Megathread 6: Return of the Omicron

[CEO Mindset]

Video: Tucker Carlson defends fake vaccine cards.

Click here to watch ... https://us.cnn.com/videos/media/2021/09/04/tucker-carlson-fake-vaccine-cards-schaffner-nr-vpx.cnn

i got vaccinated and am all for people making fake vaccine cards

having to show ANY form of id for anything at all besides voting and crossing national borders is insanity imo

[Horus]

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Resistance libs getting up in arms about this video without realizing that Virginia Tech has a vaccine mandate.

The stadium is open to the public, did they impose the mandate on everyone? Did they check the vaccine card at the door? I highly doubt it.

I didn't say the stadium should have been closed, there are economic costs to that which at this point nobody has the will to pay. But it's clearly a highly risky activity and people who want to avoid catching COVID-19 should stay away. It's entirely reasonable for public health officials to message against it and discourage people from attending. People who attend do so at their own risk, there are plenty of allowed activities that involve taking on personal risk.

This is my school!  As I mentioned earlier, we have a vaccine mandate and a test positivity of 1.3%.
 And it is an -outdoor- event!  This is -not- a high risk activity.

Want to mention that just because it's "an outdoor event" doesn't make it safe and remove all "risk."
These people are shoulder to shoulder and screaming.

There's a vaccine mandate in place. Stop telling fully vaccinated Americans how to have fun.

Where do you see me saying that people should "stop having fun"?
You constantly add BS to people comments, when there is no such words.

Read what I wrote. Of course you never said that, but you tried to subtly shame them since their activity is "risky." Everything carries risk, if your goal is to eliminate risk entirely you might as well never leave your bed. Would you rather these people have all stayed home, despite being fully vaccinated? What is your endgame? Why are you so bothered by fully vaccinated individuals moving on from the pandemic?

Not everyone wants to sit at home and do puzzles for eternity.

[Hammy]

Unless we have a vaccine mandate ASAP, covid will become the new normal.

Antivaxxers want that, so they can blame Biden for it becoming endemic.

[compucomp]

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Resistance libs getting up in arms about this video without realizing that Virginia Tech has a vaccine mandate.

The stadium is open to the public, did they impose the mandate on everyone? Did they check the vaccine card at the door? I highly doubt it.

I didn't say the stadium should have been closed, there are economic costs to that which at this point nobody has the will to pay. But it's clearly a highly risky activity and people who want to avoid catching COVID-19 should stay away. It's entirely reasonable for public health officials to message against it and discourage people from attending. People who attend do so at their own risk, there are plenty of allowed activities that involve taking on personal risk.

This is my school!  As I mentioned earlier, we have a vaccine mandate and a test positivity of 1.3%.
 And it is an -outdoor- event!  This is -not- a high risk activity.

The football game is an event open to the public and will draw people from the surrounding area, possibly from across the country. The stadium has capacity 65K, that's just under twice the total number of students at Virginia Tech (36K), let alone the number of students that want to go watch the game. So having the students of Virginia Tech under a vaccine mandate is of limited usefulness for the football game.

Was the whole stadium under a vaccine mandate, and was it actually enforced at the gate? If so, it might have not been too bad, like Lollapalooza turned out OK with an unevenly enforced vaccine mandate. If not, then it was a total free-for-all superspreader event. Yes, the event was outdoors which helps, but it's still bad to have 65K people standing shoulder-to-shoulder, yelling and screaming, ordering food and going to the bathroom in compressed spaces, etc.  

[Inmate Trump]

Unless we have a vaccine mandate ASAP, covid will become the new normal.

I think this IS the new normal.  We'll have periods of relative calm followed by periods of hell.  Variant after variant and new boosters unable to keep up.

[CEO Mindset]

it'll fade into the background and gradually evolve into becoming a new cold virus like the one that hit in 1890 did. really, stop panicking.

[emailking]

it'll fade into the background and gradually evolve into becoming a new cold virus like the one that hit in 1890 did. really, stop panicking.

Seems like it hits a lot of people a lot harder than a cold though. Even young, healthy people who don't end up in the hospital. Unless you're saying the symptoms will moderate over time.

[It’s so Joever]

it'll fade into the background and gradually evolve into becoming a new cold virus like the one that hit in 1890 did. really, stop panicking.

We still don’t know if that was a flu or cold virus that caused the 1890 pandemic.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Cases have been dropping pretty much the past few days, so naturally the CDC stopped updating their map (where it's almost impossible for a county to improve from the red tier anyway).

[It’s so Joever]

Cases have been dropping pretty much the past few days, so naturally the CDC stopped updating their map (where it's almost impossible for a county to improve from the red tier anyway).

It’s Labor Day weekend.

[Matty]

The state of Washington is seeing their worst covid surge yet, and hospitalizations have soared to a record high, especially in Spokane and king county

[Skill and Chance]

The state of Washington is seeing their worst covid surge yet, and hospitalizations have soared to a record high, especially in Spokane and king county

Really not looking good for the NE around the holidays then.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

https://twitter.com/SteveStuWill/status/1434647950500634626

[emailking]

Cases have been dropping pretty much the past few days, so naturally the CDC stopped updating their map (where it's almost impossible for a county to improve from the red tier anyway).

The drops are so dramatic the last couple days I assumed it's some reporting issue. I guess we'll know in a few days if they're really dropping fast or not.

[compucomp]

The state of Washington is seeing their worst covid surge yet, and hospitalizations have soared to a record high, especially in Spokane and king county

Really not looking good for the NE around the holidays then.

I agree with this, although relatively speaking it may not seem *that* bad because the first wave in NY/NJ was so bad, there could easily be a big surge because we will encounter a combination of people moving indoors due to weather, holiday gatherings, and the general population experiencing waning immunity since they got their vaccines in April/May. At least boosters should be getting distributed by then.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Cases have been dropping pretty much the past few days, so naturally the CDC stopped updating their map (where it's almost impossible for a county to improve from the red tier anyway).

The drops are so dramatic the last couple days I assumed it's some reporting issue. I guess we'll know in a few days if they're really dropping fast or not.

This has been happening every weekend for at least the last month.
A lot of states and counties have stopped reporting on the weekends, especially on Sunday.  The cases get backlogged on Monday and Tuesday. So every weekend it looks like there has been big drop, but by the middle of the week this mirage has disappeared.  It may be a little more persistent this week because of the holiday.

[Hammy]

So the stores that whined about confrontation with customers when it came to enforcing mask mandates or vaccine requirements are instead going to enforce capacity limits (Target being one of them) so now you can be vaccinated and outright turned away when you go out.

Businesses that do this while refusing to enforce less absurd restrictions first need to be fined $10k per day per store location. We're getting into literal mental illness level insanity with these decisions.

[ProudModerate2]

snipped tweet

Resistance libs getting up in arms about this video without realizing that Virginia Tech has a vaccine mandate.

The stadium is open to the public, did they impose the mandate on everyone? Did they check the vaccine card at the door? I highly doubt it.

I didn't say the stadium should have been closed, there are economic costs to that which at this point nobody has the will to pay. But it's clearly a highly risky activity and people who want to avoid catching COVID-19 should stay away. It's entirely reasonable for public health officials to message against it and discourage people from attending. People who attend do so at their own risk, there are plenty of allowed activities that involve taking on personal risk.

This is my school!  As I mentioned earlier, we have a vaccine mandate and a test positivity of 1.3%.
 And it is an -outdoor- event!  This is -not- a high risk activity.

Want to mention that just because it's "an outdoor event" doesn't make it safe and remove all "risk."
These people are shoulder to shoulder and screaming.

There's a vaccine mandate in place. Stop telling fully vaccinated Americans how to have fun.

Where do you see me saying that people should "stop having fun"?
You constantly add BS to people comments, when there is no such words.

Read what I wrote. Of course you never said that, but you tried to subtly shame them since their activity is "risky." Everything carries risk, if your goal is to eliminate risk entirely you might as well never leave your bed. Would you rather these people have all stayed home, despite being fully vaccinated? What is your endgame? Why are you so bothered by fully vaccinated individuals moving on from the pandemic?

Not everyone wants to sit at home and do puzzles for eternity.

Read what I wrote. I'm not trying to "subtly shame" no one.
All I'm doing is just stating a fact.
Stop being such a jack***.

[Hammy]

So are we going to get cases reported tomorrow? If not that's really going to throw off my tracking of Georgia's trajectory if we end up with a four-day (rather than three) cumulative on Tuesday.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/VincentRK/status/1434857581164601350

[ProudModerate2]

DeathSantis is a complete failure as governor of FL.
Instead of adjusting, his arrogance is causing massive Covid suffering.

[Horus]

snipped tweet

Resistance libs getting up in arms about this video without realizing that Virginia Tech has a vaccine mandate.

The stadium is open to the public, did they impose the mandate on everyone? Did they check the vaccine card at the door? I highly doubt it.

I didn't say the stadium should have been closed, there are economic costs to that which at this point nobody has the will to pay. But it's clearly a highly risky activity and people who want to avoid catching COVID-19 should stay away. It's entirely reasonable for public health officials to message against it and discourage people from attending. People who attend do so at their own risk, there are plenty of allowed activities that involve taking on personal risk.

This is my school!  As I mentioned earlier, we have a vaccine mandate and a test positivity of 1.3%.
 And it is an -outdoor- event!  This is -not- a high risk activity.

Want to mention that just because it's "an outdoor event" doesn't make it safe and remove all "risk."
These people are shoulder to shoulder and screaming.

There's a vaccine mandate in place. Stop telling fully vaccinated Americans how to have fun.

Where do you see me saying that people should "stop having fun"?
You constantly add BS to people comments, when there is no such words.

Read what I wrote. Of course you never said that, but you tried to subtly shame them since their activity is "risky." Everything carries risk, if your goal is to eliminate risk entirely you might as well never leave your bed. Would you rather these people have all stayed home, despite being fully vaccinated? What is your endgame? Why are you so bothered by fully vaccinated individuals moving on from the pandemic?

Not everyone wants to sit at home and do puzzles for eternity.

Read what I wrote. I'm not trying to "subtly shame" no one.
All I'm doing is just stating a fact.
Stop being such a jack***.

"These people are shoulder to shoulder and screaming."

You absolutely did. Otherwise why make that statement? If you had a problem with a vaccine mandated event you could've just said that instead of being passive aggressive. People stand close together at games, and they scream. That's what happens at sporting events.

Again, what is your endgame? Do you think this event should not have occurred?

[_.]

The state of Washington is seeing their worst covid surge yet, and hospitalizations have soared to a record high, especially in Spokane and king county

Really not looking good for the NE around the holidays then.

Yeah, if Washington state experiences this (and in King County cases have also significantly risen), with Seattle and all going up too, it's hard to see how the Northeast will be able to escape at this rate


The CDC's update on Rosh Hashanah will be interesting

[emailking]

While they might not escape, aren't these outbreaks going to be less pronounced is areas of the country with high vax rates?

[_.]

While they might not escape, aren't these outbreaks going to be less pronounced is areas of the country with high vax rates?

Cases probably equally as pronounced (COVID is COVID, it goes by you, you get it, you test positive even if you're vaccinated)

The place where we're gonna see differences is mortality rates