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« Reply #1100 on: June 28, 2022, 03:52:35 PM »

That was some pretty damning testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson

I admit that I was sceptical that the January 6th committee would be able to show me something that shocked or even surprised me at this point, but today's testimony had my jaw hitting the floor lol

The image of Trump trying to strangle his own Secret Service agent in an attempt to reach Capitol on Jan. 6 will forever be a dark stain on his legacy



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« Reply #1101 on: June 28, 2022, 04:02:58 PM »

That was some pretty damning testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson

I admit that I was sceptical that the January 6th committee would be able to show me something that shocked or even surprised me at this point, but today's testimony had my jaw hitting the floor lol

The image of Trump trying to strangle his own Secret Service agent in an attempt to reach Capitol on Jan. 6 will forever be a dark stain on his legacy



Will this stick though? Can anyone corroborate the story? That is the big question moving forward...
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« Reply #1102 on: June 28, 2022, 04:04:28 PM »

Grumps?

Fuzzy Bear?

Where y'all at?
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« Reply #1103 on: June 28, 2022, 04:05:53 PM »

Cheney said we're going to see evidence that Trump said Pence deserved it (the hanging chants).

She delivered!
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« Reply #1104 on: June 28, 2022, 04:13:36 PM »

This whole thing is mindboggling. And yet, as mindboggling as it is, I still expect nothing to come of it, and worse, Trump could run again in 2024 and finish off what he started, i.e. having himself declared the dictator of this country.
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« Reply #1105 on: June 28, 2022, 04:17:11 PM »

That was some pretty damning testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson

I admit that I was sceptical that the January 6th committee would be able to show me something that shocked or even surprised me at this point, but today's testimony had my jaw hitting the floor lol

The image of Trump trying to strangle his own Secret Service agent in an attempt to reach Capitol on Jan. 6 will forever be a dark stain on his legacy



Will this stick though? Can anyone corroborate the story? That is the big question moving forward...

Deputy chief of staff Tony Ornato, allegedly.
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« Reply #1106 on: June 28, 2022, 04:29:16 PM »
« Edited: June 28, 2022, 04:40:51 PM by 7,052,770 »


Grumps doesn't care, and Fuzzy is waiting for Facebook (probably a page run by Russian intelligence like Zero Hedge or worse) to give him new talking points.
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« Reply #1107 on: June 28, 2022, 04:40:14 PM »


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« Reply #1108 on: June 28, 2022, 05:21:48 PM »

Here's a good compiled checklist of 30 key points from the testimony:

1. 1/2/21: Meadows says the situation "might get real, real bad."
2. Ratcliffe thought it was a bad idea.
3. Oath Keepers, Proud Boys and associated types in the trees and walking the Ellipse with AR-15's and Glocks... starting at 8 am.
4. Trump and Meadows knew of the rioters were armed.
5. Trump had a conniption about the size of the crowd.
6. Trump before the Ellipse speech, openly discussing endangering the Capitol: “I don’t ing care that they have weapons. They’re not here to hurt me. Take the ing mags away. Let my people in. They can march to the Capitol from here. Let the people in. Take the ing mags away."
7. Secret Service said the Capitol PD needed more hands on deck.
8. Trump knew armed protesters might be headed to the Capitol.
9. Conversations about the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers overheard from Rudy.
10. Trump was advised not to smear Pence or talk about "fighting."
11. Cipollone blamed Trump and Meadows for hatching this plot, and they disregarded Cipollone's warnings that they could be charged with obstruction of justice and preventing the electoral count (obstruction of an official proceeding?)
12. "If Trump walks to the Capitol, it will be inciting a riot." - Cipollone
13. Kevin McCarthy was pissed about Trump's potential visit to the Capitol.
14. Trump attempted to overtake the steering wheel of the Beast, the presidential limo, fighting them all and assaulting his lead agent. He wanted to go back to the Capitol because he's "the ing President."
15. December 2020: Trump throws dishes around the room when Barr's AP interview confirms no widespread voter fraud.
16. Hutchinson talked Meadows out of going to the Willard War Room on 1/5.
17. Meadows attended the Willard War Room meeting by phone.
18. Talk of blaming Antifa for the riots. This ties into Ron Johnson's bullsh**t about how he wasn't feeling fear on 1/6 because Black or Antifa individuals would have scared him a lot more.
19. Meadows and Rudy asked for pardons.
20. Hutchinson was subject to witness tampering.
21. Trump ordered Meadows to call Stone and Flynn on 1/5.
22. Trump approved of the "Hang Mike Pence" chants.
23. Confirmation of pics of Roger Stone with the Oath Keepers on the 5th and 6th.
24. Meadows told Hutchinson that Trump "\[wanted\] to be alone" during the attack.
25. Meadows told Cipollone that Trump "doesn't want to do anything" about the attack.
26. "You heard him. He doesn't think they're doing anything wrong." - Meadows' chilling response to learning the "Hang Mike Pence" speech.
27. Witness tampering has been applied to committee persons of interest, including Hutchinson, by Trump and/or co-conspirators.
28. Melania refused to issue a statement condemning the violence per a text from Stephanie Grisham.
29. Trump did NOT want to record the "go home" video. He caved when threats from unflattering Hannity coverage and that the 25th amendment was being discussed.
30. Meadows ignored pleas from Junior, Ivanka, and Ingraham about the video.
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« Reply #1109 on: June 28, 2022, 05:26:50 PM »

All pro-1/6 posts are being deleted by a certain mod.
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« Reply #1110 on: June 28, 2022, 05:36:43 PM »

All pro-1/6 posts are being deleted by a certain mod.

I've just checked, and there has been one (1) pro-1/6 post deleted from this board recently.
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« Reply #1111 on: June 28, 2022, 05:38:03 PM »

Meanwhile, in Atlanta...

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Donald Trump documentary filmmaker Alex Holder has been contacted by the Fulton County District Attorney's Office about his potential cooperation with the grand jury investigating the pressure the former President put on Georgia officials to overturn that state's 2020 election results, a source with knowledge of the situation told CNN.

Fulton County prosecutor Fani Willis issued a subpoena for Holder's cooperation as well as the filmmaker's raw footage, including interviews with Trump, the source said.

"Our client will comply with any lawful subpoena from the Department of Justice or any other law enforcement agency," said Holder's attorney Russell Smith.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/28/politics/trump-documentary-filmmaker-fulton-county/index.html
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« Reply #1112 on: June 28, 2022, 05:39:33 PM »

All pro-1/6 posts are being deleted by a certain mod.

I've just checked, and there has been one (1) pro-1/6 post deleted from this board recently.
I didn’t mean you for the record, I have no issue with you. However I’ve had a handful deleted in the last week alone.
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« Reply #1113 on: June 28, 2022, 05:41:46 PM »

All pro-1/6 posts are being deleted by a certain mod.

I've just checked, and there has been one (1) pro-1/6 post deleted from this board recently.
I didn’t mean you for the record, I have no issue with you. However I’ve had a handful deleted in the last week alone.

No worries, I didn't take it that way (it's not my board to moderate anyway).
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« Reply #1114 on: June 28, 2022, 05:43:41 PM »


They plead the 5th.
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« Reply #1115 on: June 28, 2022, 05:44:26 PM »

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« Reply #1116 on: June 28, 2022, 05:45:47 PM »

Meanwhile, in Atlanta...

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Donald Trump documentary filmmaker Alex Holder has been contacted by the Fulton County District Attorney's Office about his potential cooperation with the grand jury investigating the pressure the former President put on Georgia officials to overturn that state's 2020 election results, a source with knowledge of the situation told CNN.

Fulton County prosecutor Fani Willis issued a subpoena for Holder's cooperation as well as the filmmaker's raw footage, including interviews with Trump, the source said.

"Our client will comply with any lawful subpoena from the Department of Justice or any other law enforcement agency," said Holder's attorney Russell Smith.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/28/politics/trump-documentary-filmmaker-fulton-county/index.html

It takes a remarkable level of stupidity and/or hubris to decide "Sure, we should have someone film our coup attempt"
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« Reply #1117 on: June 28, 2022, 06:10:16 PM »



Never trust a grown man who calls himself Bobby.
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« Reply #1118 on: June 28, 2022, 06:11:55 PM »


No, no, no! You don't understand! Whatever some dumbass on Twitter with 2 followers posts in regards to useless culture war nonsense somehow is more important!

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« Reply #1119 on: June 28, 2022, 06:12:12 PM »
« Edited: June 28, 2022, 06:18:18 PM by Koharu »



I am skeptical. I'm fairly sure the J6 Committee verified this statement by questioning others about it, otherwise they wouldn't have asked her about it in the public hearing.

Edit: And it does appear that both Bobby Engel and Tony Ornato did speak to the committee, so I'm sure the committee had corroborating statements.
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« Reply #1120 on: June 28, 2022, 06:17:33 PM »


Along with the rest of the nothing Burger Brigade insisting that nothing is wrong.
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« Reply #1121 on: June 28, 2022, 06:20:30 PM »

All pro-1/6 posts are being deleted by a certain mod.

Imagine being pro January 6th..
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« Reply #1122 on: June 28, 2022, 06:22:45 PM »

Do you rubes not realize that you couldn't reach the steering wheel of a limo from the back seat if your life depends on if?
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« Reply #1123 on: June 28, 2022, 06:24:37 PM »



I am skeptical. I'm fairly sure the J6 Committee verified this statement by questioning others about it, otherwise they wouldn't have asked her about it in the public hearing.

Edit: And it does appear that both Bobby Engel and Tony Ornato did speak to the committee, so I'm sure the committee had corroborating statements.

This article backs you up:

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/07/jan-6-committee-interviews-head-of-trumps-secret-service-detail-on-day-of-capitol-attack-00037748
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« Reply #1124 on: June 28, 2022, 06:24:59 PM »

Do you rubes not realize that you couldn't reach the steering wheel of a limo from the back seat if your life depends on if?

It was actually the presidential SUV in this case, not the limo.  But the solution here is simple.  Hutchinson testified she heard it from Oranto(sp?) in Engel's presence.  Bring them both in to testify under oath; they'll either corroborate it or not.
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