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« Reply #50 on: July 05, 2021, 02:51:49 PM »

It’s curious to me Baker hasn’t announced yet.

I mean if he wants to stay in politics what else is he going to do? Nothing.

We all know he’s running again so just announce it...


Baker/Healey: Likely Republican
Baker/Kennedy: Tossup
Baker/Chang-Diaz: Likely Republican
Baker/Allen: Safe Republican
Polito/Healey: Lean Democrat
Polito/Kennedy: Safe Democrat
Politio/Chang-Diaz: Lean Democrat
Politio/Allen: Likely Republican
Diehl/Healey: Safe Democrat
Diehl/Kennedy: TITANIUM Democrat
Diehl/Chang-Diaz: Likely Democrat
Diehl/Allen: Lean Democrat





It's still relatively early and he could announce in September or October. As for the general election, Baker is pretty much safe in any matchup.
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« Reply #51 on: July 05, 2021, 03:30:32 PM »

Lol, Ben Downing is our candidate and he is a great Blue collar Candidate that can beat Baker, Baker is gonna loose
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« Reply #52 on: July 05, 2021, 03:36:37 PM »

Hopefully all the RINOs get out of the race so Baker can focus on getting 60% in the general.
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« Reply #53 on: July 05, 2021, 03:37:23 PM »

If it's a BLUE WAVE or TSUNAMI Baker and Ayotte will loose
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« Reply #54 on: July 05, 2021, 05:09:17 PM »

Important(?) tea leaf: Baker's recent fundraising hauls have been atrociously anemic, & he's been far outpaced by Polito.
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« Reply #55 on: July 05, 2021, 05:32:58 PM »

I never liked Baker, I like Hogan and Scott
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« Reply #56 on: July 05, 2021, 06:39:35 PM »

It’s curious to me Baker hasn’t announced yet.

I mean if he wants to stay in politics what else is he going to do? Nothing.

We all know he’s running again so just announce it...


Baker/Healey: Likely Republican
Baker/Kennedy: Tossup
Baker/Chang-Diaz: Likely Republican
Baker/Allen: Safe Republican
Polito/Healey: Lean Democrat
Polito/Kennedy: Safe Democrat
Politio/Chang-Diaz: Lean Democrat
Politio/Allen: Likely Republican
Diehl/Healey: Safe Democrat
Diehl/Kennedy: TITANIUM Democrat
Diehl/Chang-Diaz: Likely Democrat
Diehl/Allen: Lean Democrat

Lmaooooo at Kennedy being two ratings more favorable than Healey against both Baker and Polito. You are such an unapologetic hack; I almost respect it.
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« Reply #57 on: July 05, 2021, 07:51:08 PM »

It’s curious to me Baker hasn’t announced yet.

I mean if he wants to stay in politics what else is he going to do? Nothing.

We all know he’s running again so just announce it...


Baker/Healey: Likely Republican
Baker/Kennedy: Tossup
Baker/Chang-Diaz: Likely Republican
Baker/Allen: Safe Republican
Polito/Healey: Lean Democrat
Polito/Kennedy: Safe Democrat
Politio/Chang-Diaz: Lean Democrat
Politio/Allen: Likely Republican
Diehl/Healey: Safe Democrat
Diehl/Kennedy: TITANIUM Democrat
Diehl/Chang-Diaz: Likely Democrat
Diehl/Allen: Lean Democrat

Lmaooooo at Kennedy being two ratings more favorable than Healey against both Baker and Polito. You are such an unapologetic hack; I almost respect it.

I definitely don't. That moderate might be a Millennial, but the politics are straight up Ronald Reagan
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« Reply #58 on: July 05, 2021, 09:09:29 PM »

I wish Kennedy would have run, but Downing is our Nominee
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« Reply #59 on: July 05, 2021, 09:16:47 PM »

It’s curious to me Baker hasn’t announced yet.

I mean if he wants to stay in politics what else is he going to do? Nothing.

We all know he’s running again so just announce it...


Baker/Healey: Likely Republican
Baker/Kennedy: Tossup
Baker/Chang-Diaz: Likely Republican
Baker/Allen: Safe Republican
Polito/Healey: Lean Democrat
Polito/Kennedy: Safe Democrat
Politio/Chang-Diaz: Lean Democrat
Politio/Allen: Likely Republican
Diehl/Healey: Safe Democrat
Diehl/Kennedy: TITANIUM Democrat
Diehl/Chang-Diaz: Likely Democrat
Diehl/Allen: Lean Democrat

Lmaooooo at Kennedy being two ratings more favorable than Healey against both Baker and Polito. You are such an unapologetic hack; I almost respect it.

I mean the only thing some parts of Massachusetts like more than a nonconfrontational Yankee Republican governor is a Kennedy. I don't think its hard to imagine Kennedy winning, but it is hard to see him entering and risking it if Baker remains popular and runs for reelection.
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« Reply #60 on: July 05, 2021, 09:48:20 PM »

It’s curious to me Baker hasn’t announced yet.

I mean if he wants to stay in politics what else is he going to do? Nothing.

We all know he’s running again so just announce it...


Baker/Healey: Likely Republican
Baker/Kennedy: Tossup
Baker/Chang-Diaz: Likely Republican
Baker/Allen: Safe Republican
Polito/Healey: Lean Democrat
Polito/Kennedy: Safe Democrat
Politio/Chang-Diaz: Lean Democrat
Politio/Allen: Likely Republican
Diehl/Healey: Safe Democrat
Diehl/Kennedy: TITANIUM Democrat
Diehl/Chang-Diaz: Likely Democrat
Diehl/Allen: Lean Democrat

Lmaooooo at Kennedy being two ratings more favorable than Healey against both Baker and Polito. You are such an unapologetic hack; I almost respect it.

I definitely don't. That moderate might be a Millennial, but the politics are straight up Ronald Reagan


Ronald Reagan? LOL are you kidding? Based on what...

It’s curious to me Baker hasn’t announced yet.

I mean if he wants to stay in politics what else is he going to do? Nothing.

We all know he’s running again so just announce it...


Baker/Healey: Likely Republican
Baker/Kennedy: Tossup
Baker/Chang-Diaz: Likely Republican
Baker/Allen: Safe Republican
Polito/Healey: Lean Democrat
Polito/Kennedy: Safe Democrat
Politio/Chang-Diaz: Lean Democrat
Politio/Allen: Likely Republican
Diehl/Healey: Safe Democrat
Diehl/Kennedy: TITANIUM Democrat
Diehl/Chang-Diaz: Likely Democrat
Diehl/Allen: Lean Democrat

Lmaooooo at Kennedy being two ratings more favorable than Healey against both Baker and Polito. You are such an unapologetic hack; I almost respect it.

I mean the only thing some parts of Massachusetts like more than a nonconfrontational Yankee Republican governor is a Kennedy. I don't think its hard to imagine Kennedy winning, but it is hard to see him entering and risking it if Baker remains popular and runs for reelection.

Shh this is actually a smart response. If you say it any louder you’ll read paragraphs of rambling nonsense about the fluke Markey win that was fueled by a coalition of voters that already resent him
and regret it - as if that negates the previous 20+ races
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« Reply #61 on: July 06, 2021, 09:49:22 AM »

Shh this is actually a smart response. If you say it any louder you’ll read paragraphs of rambling nonsense about the fluke Markey win that was fueled by a coalition of voters that already resent him
and regret it - as if that negates the previous 20+ races

Lol, what? I’ve never said anything about Markey’s win being a fluke. That would suggest Kennedy is stronger than he gets credit for, whereas I think he’s appropriately rated or (in your case) weaker than he gets credit for. I wasn’t saying anything about the 2020 race; I just think that a) Healey is stronger or at least as strong as Kennedy in a GE and it’s laughable that you have matchups with Kennedy as *two levels* more favorable to Dems than ones with Healey b) Healey and Pressley are more likely to be the next statewide Dem nominees than Kennedy
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« Reply #62 on: July 08, 2021, 05:34:56 AM »

Shh this is actually a smart response. If you say it any louder you’ll read paragraphs of rambling nonsense about the fluke Markey win that was fueled by a coalition of voters that already resent him
and regret it - as if that negates the previous 20+ races

Lol, what? I’ve never said anything about Markey’s win being a fluke. That would suggest Kennedy is stronger than he gets credit for, whereas I think he’s appropriately rated or (in your case) weaker than he gets credit for. I wasn’t saying anything about the 2020 race; I just think that a) Healey is stronger or at least as strong as Kennedy in a GE and it’s laughable that you have matchups with Kennedy as *two levels* more favorable to Dems than ones with Healey b) Healey and Pressley are more likely to be the next statewide Dem nominees than Kennedy

I didn’t say you said Markeys win was a fluke. I DID.

And I think he’s very underrated obviously - that one loss has warped everyone’s opinion on him. But it was very much a one off spurred by the AOC/Far Left/Twitter warrior/Latte Liberal crowds random support of Markey. And as I said... they’re already frustrated as hell with him. Which was easy to see because he’s been a political camoleon in his whole career but they wouldn’t listen
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« Reply #63 on: July 08, 2021, 09:52:12 AM »

Shh this is actually a smart response. If you say it any louder you’ll read paragraphs of rambling nonsense about the fluke Markey win that was fueled by a coalition of voters that already resent him
and regret it - as if that negates the previous 20+ races

Lol, what? I’ve never said anything about Markey’s win being a fluke. That would suggest Kennedy is stronger than he gets credit for, whereas I think he’s appropriately rated or (in your case) weaker than he gets credit for. I wasn’t saying anything about the 2020 race; I just think that a) Healey is stronger or at least as strong as Kennedy in a GE and it’s laughable that you have matchups with Kennedy as *two levels* more favorable to Dems than ones with Healey b) Healey and Pressley are more likely to be the next statewide Dem nominees than Kennedy

I didn’t say you said Markeys win was a fluke. I DID.

And I think he’s very underrated obviously - that one loss has warped everyone’s opinion on him. But it was very much a one off spurred by the AOC/Far Left/Twitter warrior/Latte Liberal crowds random support of Markey. And as I said... they’re already frustrated as hell with him. Which was easy to see because he’s been a political camoleon in his whole career but they wouldn’t listen

Oh. Since you said "paragraphs of rambling nonsense about..." it sort of implied that that was someone else's opinion you were mocking, not your own opinion.
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« Reply #64 on: July 08, 2021, 12:40:02 PM »
« Edited: July 10, 2021, 12:28:30 PM by MR. KAYNE WEST »

Ben Downing 53/47% v Baker
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« Reply #65 on: July 08, 2021, 06:55:33 PM »

Shh this is actually a smart response. If you say it any louder you’ll read paragraphs of rambling nonsense about the fluke Markey win that was fueled by a coalition of voters that already resent him
and regret it - as if that negates the previous 20+ races

Lol, what? I’ve never said anything about Markey’s win being a fluke. That would suggest Kennedy is stronger than he gets credit for, whereas I think he’s appropriately rated or (in your case) weaker than he gets credit for. I wasn’t saying anything about the 2020 race; I just think that a) Healey is stronger or at least as strong as Kennedy in a GE and it’s laughable that you have matchups with Kennedy as *two levels* more favorable to Dems than ones with Healey b) Healey and Pressley are more likely to be the next statewide Dem nominees than Kennedy

I didn’t say you said Markeys win was a fluke. I DID.

And I think he’s very underrated obviously - that one loss has warped everyone’s opinion on him. But it was very much a one off spurred by the AOC/Far Left/Twitter warrior/Latte Liberal crowds random support of Markey. And as I said... they’re already frustrated as hell with him. Which was easy to see because he’s been a political camoleon in his whole career but they wouldn’t listen

Oh. Since you said "paragraphs of rambling nonsense about..." it sort of implied that that was someone else's opinion you were mocking, not your own opinion.

MM should always be reminded about how wrong he was about that race, no matter the context
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« Reply #66 on: July 10, 2021, 11:34:46 AM »

Shh this is actually a smart response. If you say it any louder you’ll read paragraphs of rambling nonsense about the fluke Markey win that was fueled by a coalition of voters that already resent him
and regret it - as if that negates the previous 20+ races

Lol, what? I’ve never said anything about Markey’s win being a fluke. That would suggest Kennedy is stronger than he gets credit for, whereas I think he’s appropriately rated or (in your case) weaker than he gets credit for. I wasn’t saying anything about the 2020 race; I just think that a) Healey is stronger or at least as strong as Kennedy in a GE and it’s laughable that you have matchups with Kennedy as *two levels* more favorable to Dems than ones with Healey b) Healey and Pressley are more likely to be the next statewide Dem nominees than Kennedy

I didn’t say you said Markeys win was a fluke. I DID.

And I think he’s very underrated obviously - that one loss has warped everyone’s opinion on him. But it was very much a one off spurred by the AOC/Far Left/Twitter warrior/Latte Liberal crowds random support of Markey. And as I said... they’re already frustrated as hell with him. Which was easy to see because he’s been a political camoleon in his whole career but they wouldn’t listen

Oh. Since you said "paragraphs of rambling nonsense about..." it sort of implied that that was someone else's opinion you were mocking, not your own opinion.

MM should always be reminded about how wrong he was about that race, no matter the context

Just before the race started in earnest in late 2019 I obviously expected JK3 to win because Massachusetts voters are usually smart ones .. so I had no reason to expect the collective electorate to go brain dead.

But saying I was “wrong” about the race is funny considering I’m the one who said in early June that the mood on the ground felt very diffrent from the expectation and I expected that an abomination was likely to take place in September. That was a few weeks before the first serious poll showing useless Markey ahead was released. That’s a funny way of being wrong.
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« Reply #67 on: July 10, 2021, 12:15:07 PM »

Shh this is actually a smart response. If you say it any louder you’ll read paragraphs of rambling nonsense about the fluke Markey win that was fueled by a coalition of voters that already resent him
and regret it - as if that negates the previous 20+ races

Lol, what? I’ve never said anything about Markey’s win being a fluke. That would suggest Kennedy is stronger than he gets credit for, whereas I think he’s appropriately rated or (in your case) weaker than he gets credit for. I wasn’t saying anything about the 2020 race; I just think that a) Healey is stronger or at least as strong as Kennedy in a GE and it’s laughable that you have matchups with Kennedy as *two levels* more favorable to Dems than ones with Healey b) Healey and Pressley are more likely to be the next statewide Dem nominees than Kennedy

I didn’t say you said Markeys win was a fluke. I DID.

And I think he’s very underrated obviously - that one loss has warped everyone’s opinion on him. But it was very much a one off spurred by the AOC/Far Left/Twitter warrior/Latte Liberal crowds random support of Markey. And as I said... they’re already frustrated as hell with him. Which was easy to see because he’s been a political camoleon in his whole career but they wouldn’t listen

Oh. Since you said "paragraphs of rambling nonsense about..." it sort of implied that that was someone else's opinion you were mocking, not your own opinion.

MM should always be reminded about how wrong he was about that race, no matter the context

Just before the race started in earnest in late 2019 I obviously expected JK3 to win because Massachusetts voters are usually smart ones .. so I had no reason to expect the collective electorate to go brain dead.

But saying I was “wrong” about the race is funny considering I’m the one who said in early June that the mood on the ground felt very diffrent from the expectation and I expected that an abomination was likely to take place in September. That was a few weeks before the first serious poll showing useless Markey ahead was released. That’s a funny way of being wrong.

We're all still very happy about it by the way
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« Reply #68 on: July 10, 2021, 12:22:30 PM »

Shh this is actually a smart response. If you say it any louder you’ll read paragraphs of rambling nonsense about the fluke Markey win that was fueled by a coalition of voters that already resent him
and regret it - as if that negates the previous 20+ races

Lol, what? I’ve never said anything about Markey’s win being a fluke. That would suggest Kennedy is stronger than he gets credit for, whereas I think he’s appropriately rated or (in your case) weaker than he gets credit for. I wasn’t saying anything about the 2020 race; I just think that a) Healey is stronger or at least as strong as Kennedy in a GE and it’s laughable that you have matchups with Kennedy as *two levels* more favorable to Dems than ones with Healey b) Healey and Pressley are more likely to be the next statewide Dem nominees than Kennedy

I didn’t say you said Markeys win was a fluke. I DID.

And I think he’s very underrated obviously - that one loss has warped everyone’s opinion on him. But it was very much a one off spurred by the AOC/Far Left/Twitter warrior/Latte Liberal crowds random support of Markey. And as I said... they’re already frustrated as hell with him. Which was easy to see because he’s been a political camoleon in his whole career but they wouldn’t listen

Oh. Since you said "paragraphs of rambling nonsense about..." it sort of implied that that was someone else's opinion you were mocking, not your own opinion.

MM should always be reminded about how wrong he was about that race, no matter the context

Just before the race started in earnest in late 2019 I obviously expected JK3 to win because Massachusetts voters are usually smart ones .. so I had no reason to expect the collective electorate to go brain dead.

But saying I was “wrong” about the race is funny considering I’m the one who said in early June that the mood on the ground felt very diffrent from the expectation and I expected that an abomination was likely to take place in September. That was a few weeks before the first serious poll showing useless Markey ahead was released. That’s a funny way of being wrong.

So...you were wrong about your pre-assumptions of the race and the electorate is what it sound a like. Turns it people don’t like family dynasties very much.
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« Reply #69 on: July 10, 2021, 12:50:00 PM »

Shh this is actually a smart response. If you say it any louder you’ll read paragraphs of rambling nonsense about the fluke Markey win that was fueled by a coalition of voters that already resent him
and regret it - as if that negates the previous 20+ races

Lol, what? I’ve never said anything about Markey’s win being a fluke. That would suggest Kennedy is stronger than he gets credit for, whereas I think he’s appropriately rated or (in your case) weaker than he gets credit for. I wasn’t saying anything about the 2020 race; I just think that a) Healey is stronger or at least as strong as Kennedy in a GE and it’s laughable that you have matchups with Kennedy as *two levels* more favorable to Dems than ones with Healey b) Healey and Pressley are more likely to be the next statewide Dem nominees than Kennedy

I didn’t say you said Markeys win was a fluke. I DID.

And I think he’s very underrated obviously - that one loss has warped everyone’s opinion on him. But it was very much a one off spurred by the AOC/Far Left/Twitter warrior/Latte Liberal crowds random support of Markey. And as I said... they’re already frustrated as hell with him. Which was easy to see because he’s been a political camoleon in his whole career but they wouldn’t listen

Oh. Since you said "paragraphs of rambling nonsense about..." it sort of implied that that was someone else's opinion you were mocking, not your own opinion.

MM should always be reminded about how wrong he was about that race, no matter the context

Just before the race started in earnest in late 2019 I obviously expected JK3 to win because Massachusetts voters are usually smart ones .. so I had no reason to expect the collective electorate to go brain dead.

But saying I was “wrong” about the race is funny considering I’m the one who said in early June that the mood on the ground felt very diffrent from the expectation and I expected that an abomination was likely to take place in September. That was a few weeks before the first serious poll showing useless Markey ahead was released. That’s a funny way of being wrong.

So...you were wrong about your pre-assumptions of the race and the electorate is what it sound a like. Turns it people don’t like family dynasties very much.

1.  “Once is a fluke, two is coincide, three is a trend”. The Kennedy’s are still popular in this state. Very popular. Maybe not what they were but still popular. You  had a a primary election in the late summer during a pandemic when all the focus was on taking out Trump.

The ultra-Uber leftists got behind Markey because they laughably saw him as anti-establishment. And saw JK3 as being the antithesis of what they support (even though he’s arguably been a bigger ally to them then Markey has but using there brain and looking at facts was out of the question ...I still can’t really put a finger on it. Maybe they were sour that Biden beat Bernie? They ignored the fact JK3 had a sterling reputation for answering constituents concerns. In one instance a man was fighting for a law change after losing his son and he said Markey did nothing but stare at his phone and brush him off. JK3 spent hours with him, followed up with him and brought the families concerns to others in the government. There may not have been any Senator that gave a damn less about his constituents and his state than Markey But the logic be damned.... the lattes and red rose Twitter army put a sufficient force of momentum behind Markeys campaign that probably accounted for a good solid 20-25% of the vote. And in a race that finished 55%-45% that was the clear difference. If there is one silver lining it’s that many of them are seeing him for the fraud he is.

The other bit of good news is JK3 will be back and we only have 4.5 more years of Markey

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« Reply #70 on: July 10, 2021, 12:53:23 PM »

That was AOC and Brucejoel and Prez Johnson he isn't that great of a politician and neither is  Collins, ME voters voted Collins back in and she became an obstructionist, we only have until 2026 to dispatch both Markey and Collins whom are 70 yrs old already and need to .
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« Reply #71 on: August 16, 2021, 01:44:59 PM »

Baker had a sizable dip on PredictIt today, now in second place to Maura Healey.

Maybe it was mass betting against him, or maybe recent polling showed him way down?
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« Reply #72 on: August 16, 2021, 02:08:44 PM »

Baker will probably improve once he announces. Not that prediction markets are that predeictive either. The question is just whether he runs or not.
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« Reply #73 on: August 16, 2021, 02:34:57 PM »

MA, NH arent safe Ben Downing is an excellent candidate and last poll had him down 7, did you know Baker was trailing in 2014, by 7 and he won, the map follows the Blue wall 304

This isn't 2018 anymore
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« Reply #74 on: September 08, 2021, 08:47:21 AM »

This seems to rule out a run for Governor next year:

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