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« Reply #525 on: November 29, 2020, 06:19:50 PM »

Well, Ossoff retweeted his tweet so I guess he's fine with his endorsement.

Sanders would definitely have lost Georgia if he was the nominee and probably the entire election as well.

And Sanders' endorsement to Ossoff and Warnock will likely reinforce the warning that if the Dems take the Senate, Bernie Sanders would be in line to become Chairman of the Senate Committee on Budget, which means a vote for Ossoff and Warnock is a vote for a socialist takeover of the budget, for much more deficit, for out of control spending, of trillions of dollars of new taxes.

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« Reply #526 on: November 29, 2020, 06:20:56 PM »
« Edited: November 29, 2020, 06:29:11 PM by Roll Roons »

Uhhh, I feel like this could end badly for Ossoff and Warnock:



You're vastly overstating how much this would make an impact, especially in a state as polarized as Georgia. Sanders has also tweeted support for other Democratic candidates before.

I know we make all the "king of the suburbs" memes about Perdue, but he actually did run slightly ahead of Trump in these areas.



Swing voters and ticket splitters do exist in this state. And guess what? They're not exactly on board with the far left.

Mike Siegel in TX-10 had the brilliant idea of touting this endorsement:


He lost by over 7 as Biden lost the district by less than 2. Kara Eastman? Wendy Davis? Candace Valenzuela? Dana Balter? Lather, rinse and repeat. Left wing candidates are toxic, and Mitch is probably popping champagne.
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« Reply #527 on: November 29, 2020, 06:22:10 PM »

Well, Ossoff retweeted his tweet so I guess he's fine with his endorsement.

Sanders would definitely have lost Georgia if he was the nominee and probably the entire election as well.

And Sanders' endorsement to Ossoff and Warnock will likely reinforce the warning that if the Dems take the Senate, Bernie Sanders would be in line to become Chairman of the Senate Committee on Budget, which means a vote for Ossoff and Warnock is a vote for a socialist takeover of the budget, for much more deficit, for out of control spending, of trillions of dollars of new taxes.

Oh no, we wouldn't want a Democratic trifecta to squander the surplus that the 2017-2019 Republican trifecta built up!

Oh wait, the Republican trifecta actually dramatically increased the deficit. Never mind.
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« Reply #528 on: November 29, 2020, 06:24:35 PM »

Uhhh, I feel like this could end badly for Ossoff and Warnock:



You're vastly overstating how much this would make an impact, especially in a state as polarized as Georgia. Sanders has also tweeted support for other Democratic candidates before.

I know we make all the "king of the suburbs" memes about Perdue, but he actually did run slightly ahead of Trump in these areas.



Swing voters and ticket splitters do exist in this state. And guess what? They're not exactly on board with the far left.

Mike Siegel in TX-10 had the brilliant idea of touting this endorsement:


He lost by over 7 as Biden lost the district by less than 2. Far leftism is toxic.

No wonder DeKalb looks so weird.
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« Reply #529 on: November 29, 2020, 06:48:34 PM »

Uhhh, I feel like this could end badly for Ossoff and Warnock:



You're vastly overstating how much this would make an impact, especially in a state as polarized as Georgia. Sanders has also tweeted support for other Democratic candidates before.

I know we make all the "king of the suburbs" memes about Perdue, but he actually did run slightly ahead of Trump in these areas.



Swing voters and ticket splitters do exist in this state. And guess what? They're not exactly on board with the far left.

Mike Siegel in TX-10 had the brilliant idea of touting this endorsement:


He lost by over 7 as Biden lost the district by less than 2. Kara Eastman? Wendy Davis? Candace Valenzuela? Dana Balter? Lather, rinse and repeat. Left wing candidates are toxic, and Mitch is probably popping champagne.

Ok, I'm the last person to be standing up for the far left, but this is lacking in context. Plenty of moderate dems in suburbs underran Biden, it was because Trump is so uniquely toxic. Allred won by 6, Biden by 10, Fletcher won by 3, Biden by 8, Dean phillips by like 11, Biden by like 20, Wexton by like 13, Biden by like 20, Auchincloss by like 22, Biden by like 31, Himes by 26, Biden by 30, etc.
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« Reply #530 on: November 29, 2020, 06:53:04 PM »

Ok, I'm the last person to be standing up for the far left, but this is lacking in context. Plenty of moderate dems in suburbs underran Biden, it was because Trump is so uniquely toxic. Allred won by 6, Biden by 10, Fletcher won by 3, Biden by 8, Dean phillips by like 11, Biden by like 20, Wexton by like 13, Biden by like 20, Auchincloss by like 22, Biden by like 31, Himes by 26, Biden by 30, etc.

Fair enough. Either way, I think Ossoff and Warnock are playing with fire by doing this.
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« Reply #531 on: November 29, 2020, 07:01:17 PM »

Uhhh, I feel like this could end badly for Ossoff and Warnock:



You're vastly overstating how much this would make an impact, especially in a state as polarized as Georgia. Sanders has also tweeted support for other Democratic candidates before.

I know we make all the "king of the suburbs" memes about Perdue, but he actually did run slightly ahead of Trump in these areas.



Swing voters and ticket splitters do exist in this state. And guess what? They're not exactly on board with the far left.

Mike Siegel in TX-10 had the brilliant idea of touting this endorsement:


He lost by over 7 as Biden lost the district by less than 2. Kara Eastman? Wendy Davis? Candace Valenzuela? Dana Balter? Lather, rinse and repeat. Left wing candidates are toxic, and Mitch is probably popping champagne.

I would hesitate to draw huge conclusions from that data, frankly I'm more surprised at the discrepancy between the regular and special than anything else. Ossoff and Warnock aren't exactly progressive firebrands, certainly no more than Lucy McBath, and a lot of people in North Fulton were motivated mostly by hatred of Trump, so doesn't it stand to reason that the margins are due to NeverTrumpers rather than some sort of suburban revolt against AOC or something?

Also, I've brought this up before, but there are plenty of counterexamples to the "progressives underperformed" talking point. Despite his less D friendly district and STRONG CHALLENGER everyone was bedwetting about, progressive DeFazio's performance was almost identical to electable moderate Kurt Schrader's next door, DeFazio's 51.6% to Schrader's 52%. Eastman lost in a Biden district, but Golden won in a Trump district (and he's hardly a conservadem, he's a M4A cosponsor). Most of the Cali Dems that went under weren't that progressive. Of the Miami Democrats who lost, Shalala was more moderate, but DMP did better relative to the top of the ticket. If you cherrypick examples you can form whatever narrative you want, but I think it's fairer to just say that there are about as many Democratic representatives as Biden congressional districts.
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« Reply #532 on: November 29, 2020, 07:06:59 PM »
« Edited: November 29, 2020, 07:10:36 PM by gracile »

Uhhh, I feel like this could end badly for Ossoff and Warnock:



You're vastly overstating how much this would make an impact, especially in a state as polarized as Georgia. Sanders has also tweeted support for other Democratic candidates before.

I know we make all the "king of the suburbs" memes about Perdue, but he actually did run slightly ahead of Trump in these areas.



Swing voters and ticket splitters do exist in this state. And guess what? They're not exactly on board with the far left.

Mike Siegel in TX-10 had the brilliant idea of touting this endorsement:


He lost by over 7 as Biden lost the district by less than 2. Kara Eastman? Wendy Davis? Candace Valenzuela? Dana Balter? Lather, rinse and repeat. Left wing candidates are toxic, and Mitch is probably popping champagne.

I'm not denying that such voters don't exist, but I think you're exaggerating the extent to which they would make a difference in this race or how much a single statement of support by Sanders would impact this race. Even in that North Fulton map (not to mention this is a part of the Atlanta metro where there is still large amounts of downballot Republican strength/split-ticket voting unlike places that have been impacted by large-scale demographic change and have Democratic-leaning populations that are naturally less inclined to split tickets such as Gwinnett/Clayton/Rockdale/Henry/etc.). The stakes are also much different considering this is a lower turnout special election scenario where turning out parts of the Democratic base are of greater importance than the general election.

Also, as far as leftist candidates underperforming Biden go - there were so many downballot Democrats who underperformed Biden from all parts of the centrist-leftist spectrum. In Texas for example, leftist Mike Siegel performed roughly in line with Sri Preston Kulkarni and Wendy Davis in terms of how much they ran behind Trump (and I'm not really sure why you're lumping Davis with these other candidates since she's pretty much a mainstream Dem with few ties to the party's left). While you also have someone like Julie Oliver who was endorsed by Sanders/Progressive groups who only ran behind Biden by four points. The downballot picture was incredibly mixed, and as Bagel and sansymcsansface alluded to the only thing it shows is that a large swath of voters only voted for Biden because he wasn't as odious as Trump but had no affinity for the Democratic party.
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« Reply #533 on: November 29, 2020, 09:11:00 PM »



Just a little reminder that Kelly Loeffler has a net worth of $500 million.
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« Reply #534 on: November 29, 2020, 09:18:45 PM »
« Edited: November 29, 2020, 09:22:45 PM by KaiserDave »



Just a little reminder that Kelly Loeffler has a net worth of $500 million.

I hate her so much. The only thing she knows about paychecks is that it's that thing her underling gives to the poors.

Also her only healthcare plan is that you don't pay premiums if you've died of a pre-existing condition.
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« Reply #535 on: November 29, 2020, 09:31:29 PM »

Donated $150 a piece to Warnock and Ossoff!
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« Reply #536 on: November 29, 2020, 09:40:13 PM »


Thank you from Georgia!
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« Reply #537 on: November 30, 2020, 12:21:20 AM »

LMFAO, my dad says Loeffler looks like an emaciated giraffe XD
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« Reply #538 on: November 30, 2020, 01:48:57 AM »

LMFAO, my dad says Loeffler looks like an emaciated giraffe XD

There’s something not quite human about her. Maybe she’s a Stepford wife?
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« Reply #539 on: November 30, 2020, 06:55:43 AM »

I really hope the campaign to write-in a protest vote (for Trump)  catches some steam.  It would be great for Trump to get 50,000+ votes... and Warnock & Ossoff win by about 30,000.
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« Reply #540 on: November 30, 2020, 10:41:31 AM »

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/gov-hogan-vote-loeffler-perdue-to-uphold-moderation-and-compromise-in-the-us-senate

Hogan endorses Loeffler and Perdue and loses much of my respect

Also his justification is very lame

I guess he really wants to run for President and get 8% in the New Hampshire primary
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« Reply #541 on: November 30, 2020, 10:43:41 AM »


And yet hundreds of thousands of Democrats voted for this guy when almost no Republicans will vote for any Democrat.
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« Reply #542 on: November 30, 2020, 10:49:09 AM »

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/gov-hogan-vote-loeffler-perdue-to-uphold-moderation-and-compromise-in-the-us-senate

Hogan endorses Loeffler and Perdue and loses much of my respect

Also his justification is very lame

I guess he really wants to run for President and get 8% in the New Hampshire primary
Why would Larry Hogan endorse Qelly Loeffler and David "pray for Obama's death" Perdue?
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« Reply #543 on: November 30, 2020, 10:51:19 AM »

I really hope the campaign to write-in a protest vote (for Trump)  catches some steam.  It would be great for Trump to get 50,000+ votes... and Warnock & Ossoff win by about 30,000.

I was hoping for this too at first, but I saw someone point out that there won’t be a write-in slot, of course, since it’s a runoff. So I hope this doesn’t backfire where Trumpers go to write-in Trump, see that they can’t, and do the lesser of two evils things unwilling.
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« Reply #544 on: November 30, 2020, 10:51:45 AM »

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/gov-hogan-vote-loeffler-perdue-to-uphold-moderation-and-compromise-in-the-us-senate

Hogan endorses Loeffler and Perdue and loses much of my respect

Also his justification is very lame

I guess he really wants to run for President and get 8% in the New Hampshire primary
Why would Larry Hogan endorse Qelly Loeffler and David "pray for Obama's death" Perdue?

Believe he thinks he's a viable 2024 candidate.
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« Reply #545 on: November 30, 2020, 11:00:14 AM »

Phil Scott would do the same if he could as well.
All Republicans are spineless and have been complicit in the destruction of America, I don’t care how nice they seem they are watching our country die for fun.
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« Reply #546 on: November 30, 2020, 11:01:47 AM »

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/gov-hogan-vote-loeffler-perdue-to-uphold-moderation-and-compromise-in-the-us-senate

Hogan endorses Loeffler and Perdue and loses much of my respect

Also his justification is very lame

I guess he really wants to run for President and get 8% in the New Hampshire primary
Why would Larry Hogan endorse Qelly Loeffler and David "pray for Obama's death" Perdue?

Believe he thinks he's a viable 2024 candidate.

Lol in what universe, he's going to get absolutely blown out
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« Reply #547 on: November 30, 2020, 11:09:28 AM »

Phil Scott would do the same if he could as well.
All Republicans are spineless and have been complicit in the destruction of America, I don’t care how nice they seem they are watching our country die for fun.


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« Reply #548 on: November 30, 2020, 11:10:18 AM »

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/gov-hogan-vote-loeffler-perdue-to-uphold-moderation-and-compromise-in-the-us-senate

Hogan endorses Loeffler and Perdue and loses much of my respect

Also his justification is very lame

I guess he really wants to run for President and get 8% in the New Hampshire primary
Why would Larry Hogan endorse Qelly Loeffler and David "pray for Obama's death" Perdue?

Believe he thinks he's a viable 2024 candidate.

Lol in what universe, he's going to get absolutely blown out

Yes, he is delusional
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« Reply #549 on: November 30, 2020, 11:17:27 AM »

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/gov-hogan-vote-loeffler-perdue-to-uphold-moderation-and-compromise-in-the-us-senate

Hogan endorses Loeffler and Perdue and loses much of my respect

Also his justification is very lame

I guess he really wants to run for President and get 8% in the New Hampshire primary
Why would Larry Hogan endorse Qelly Loeffler and David "pray for Obama's death" Perdue?

Believe he thinks he's a viable 2024 candidate.

Lol in what universe, he's going to get absolutely blown out

Get blown out? Bold to assume he even makes it to the 1st contest.
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