CONGRESSIONAL RESULTS MEGA THREAD

[Woody]

https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/1324444220229341190

lol

[BudgieForce]

Oh hey, Christy Smith might actually win.

[lfromnj]

Oh hey, Christy Smith might actually win.

California ballots so far have had a R trendline btw. Not sure how it ends up at the very end

[Roblox]

The democrats nominated Joe Biden lol. He and most swing seat candidates openly denounced defund the police at every opportunity. If all it takes for republicans to win is progressive activists saying anything, than your done anyway lmao.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

The democrats nominated Joe Biden lol. He and most swing seat candidates openly denounced defund the police at every opportunity. If all it takes for republicans to win is progressive activists saying anything, than your done anyway lmao.

Basically this. Harris and a bunch of Congresspeople should be less online on the social issues, but it if really was the woke activists that did it for these Democrats (and I doubt it), it's to be minimised at worst or leaned into at best if it works (as with Qanon for the GOP). The party, the country and social media is way too decentralised for everyone on DSA Twitter to be censored, not that this power would be a good thing in any case considering how awful the national leadership has consistently been on many issues.

[Xing]

They should honestly call both WA-03 and WA-08. WA-03 isn't even going to be lose, and while WA-08 could end up narrowly within 5%, Jensen isn't making up the gap.

As for the discussion of the Squad/centrist/M4A, I'll repeat my talking point: Messaging, messaging, messaging is everything.

Any idea why dems are so bad at messaging?

A few reasons.

1. Frustration: A lot of Democrats who are understandably fed up and tired at a lack of meaningful change on a number of issues want to make over-the-top slogans to try and draw attention to an issue. I think people who disagree should understand that this is a big part of where these overly simplistic proclamations come from, even if it's not a politically good strategy.

2. Lack of contact with those who aren't like-minded: It's not universally true that liberals live in a bubble, but many do, and simply don't understand how their messaging could be interpreted in a different way. Too many also push away those who criticize their messaging, even if they agree with the underlying goal.

3. Complicated ideas, simple slogans: Some ideas on the left are quite complex, and it's hard to find an accurate, succinct way of expressing those ideas. It's also hard to avoid using words that have a negative connotation in politics.

There are probably more, including the messengers themselves, but these are some big ones.

Well that's something certainly, I never understood their problems. Do you think that Bernie/Squad hurt a lot?

They haven't been the best messengers, that's for sure (especially Omar and Tlaib.) I think that, at the very least, they do pick up on a lot of the frustration part I talked about, but Democrats and progressives need to find a better way to communicate this. We hear all the time about how people in rural areas are struggling, and while it's true that some Democratic candidates don't pay enough attention to it, plenty of people in cities are struggling. The "ivory tower" image people like to bring up only describes a small number of people in urban areas. For many people, their problems are very real, and just moving somewhere less expensive is nowhere near as easy as it sounds.

[Matty]

Ok, so I haven't posted on this board for months.

Biden is president-elect, yet I come on here and numerous dems are treating 2020 election as some sort of loss for dems. wtf?

who cares about downballot? Nobody remembers presidential election years by what happens in house and senate.

The dems won the 2020 election, end of story.

[Skye]

https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/1324439295847968768

IS YELLING

[Xing]

who cares about downballot?

Welcome to Atlas! If we had a more "boring" Republican as President, I think some Democrats here would rather see said Republican win and the Democrats take the Senate than the result we got.

It does show how unrepresentative Atlas is on both sides, since most rank-and-file Democrats probably don't care much about the Senate, and are just happy and relieved that Trump is losing, while most Trump supporters are probably quite upset right now, and also don't care much about keeping the Senate.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Ok, so I haven't posted on this board for months.

Biden is president-elect, yet I come on here and numerous dems are treating 2020 election as some sort of loss for dems. wtf?

who cares about downballot? Nobody remembers presidential election years by what happens in house and senate.

The dems won the 2020 election, end of story.

The difference between a Dem trifecta and a Biden win with a 52-48 R Senate and a D+5 House is massive.

I'm not surprised they're disappointed. Basically every reach goal they had for Biden's term is off the table now. These next four years are going to be about modest executive order gains and haggling with McConnell over stimulus bills.

[President Johnson]

Has McSally conceded yet?

[Xing]

They should honestly call both WA-03 and WA-08. WA-03 isn't even going to be lose, and while WA-08 could end up narrowly within 5%, Jensen isn't making up the gap.

As for the discussion of the Squad/centrist/M4A, I'll repeat my talking point: Messaging, messaging, messaging is everything.

Any idea why dems are so bad at messaging?

A few reasons.

1. Frustration: A lot of Democrats who are understandably fed up and tired at a lack of meaningful change on a number of issues want to make over-the-top slogans to try and draw attention to an issue. I think people who disagree should understand that this is a big part of where these overly simplistic proclamations come from, even if it's not a politically good strategy.

2. Lack of contact with those who aren't like-minded: It's not universally true that liberals live in a bubble, but many do, and simply don't understand how their messaging could be interpreted in a different way. Too many also push away those who criticize their messaging, even if they agree with the underlying goal.

3. Complicated ideas, simple slogans: Some ideas on the left are quite complex, and it's hard to find an accurate, succinct way of expressing those ideas. It's also hard to avoid using words that have a negative connotation in politics.

There are probably more, including the messengers themselves, but these are some big ones.

Well that's something certainly, I never understood their problems. Do you think that Bernie/Squad hurt a lot?

They haven't been the best messengers, that's for sure (especially Omar and Tlaib.) I think that, at the very least, they do pick up on a lot of the frustration part I talked about, but Democrats and progressives need to find a better way to communicate this. We hear all the time about how people in rural areas are struggling, and while it's true that some Democratic candidates don't pay enough attention to it, plenty of people in cities are struggling. The "ivory tower" image people like to bring up only describes a small number of people in urban areas. For many people, their problems are very real, and just moving somewhere less expensive is nowhere near as easy as it sounds.

But is that frustrated voting block really relevant? We've seen that surged city turn out doesn't save them in places. What messengers could bring it do you think? Correct me if I say anything wrong btw, I'm on 6 hours of sleep since Monday.

I meant that these frustrated voters sometimes buy into messaging that doesn't help their cause, because they're fed up. Democrats need better messaging to reach more people outside of their base or their most reliable base to have more success politically.

[lfromnj]

Interesting I wonder how Valadao will turn out, he's up by 3 now and it seems in the central valley D votes came first looking at Kings and Tulare county, Kings is much more R than Tulare because its almost fully in while Tulare is only like 70% in. Kern is only 50% in and its a tie. I doubt Biden wins Kern so Valadao might do good.

[brucejoel99]

What's up with Candace Valenzuela in TX-24? She's behind by just under 4,500 votes according to the AP right now, with 99% reporting. Any insight as to what the outstanding vote is/where it's from & how it likely factors into an end result?

Following-up on ^ this ^ as well as a question about NJ-02: the AP shows JVD has a 10,000-vote lead but only 72% reporting. What's outstanding there, is it mail-in, & is Kennedy still in this thing?

[MillennialModerate]

Ok, so I haven't posted on this board for months.

Biden is president-elect, yet I come on here and numerous dems are treating 2020 election as some sort of loss for dems. wtf?

who cares about downballot? Nobody remembers presidential election years by what happens in house and senate.

The dems won the 2020 election, end of story.

There’s a lot of injustices in our system that only a Dem trifecta could have made right.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

https://twitter.com/SeanTrende/status/1324459907249283072?s=20

[Mr.Phips]

Ok, so I haven't posted on this board for months.

Biden is president-elect, yet I come on here and numerous dems are treating 2020 election as some sort of loss for dems. wtf?

who cares about downballot? Nobody remembers presidential election years by what happens in house and senate.

The dems won the 2020 election, end of story.

There’s a lot of injustices in our system that only a Dem trifecta could have made right.

Dems need to stop with the pollyannaish attitude.  This election was a disaster for Democrats below the Presidential level and need to realize that something with their messaging is very, very wrong.

[Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!]

CA-39 is R+.5 with 89% reporting and I have no idea how the CA late ballots tend to land. Will Cisneros send Young Kim back to school?

[Roll Roons]

CA-39 is R+.5 with 89% reporting and I have no idea how the CA late ballots tend to land. Will Cisneros send Young Kim back to school?

In normal years, late ballots in CA skew heavily D. But this year, they apparently might be more Republican, so it looks like Valadao, Garcia, Kim and Steel can all win.

[AncestralDemocrat.]

https://twitter.com/KUTV2News/status/1324474578509258753?s=19

[lfromnj]

https://twitter.com/KUTV2News/status/1324474578509258753?s=19

Mcadams has this, According to the presidential race 97% of Utah County is in while only 70% of SLC. Unless if Late ballots skew Republican?

[AncestralDemocrat.]

https://twitter.com/KUTV2News/status/1324474578509258753?s=19

Mcadams has this, According to the presidential race 97% of Utah County is in while only 70% of SLC. Unless if Late ballots skew Republican?

Late ballots have been all over the place this year.. so I'm not sure.

[n1240]

Utah could have similar reporting trend to Arizona, given how much mail-in vote there is in the state as is. Owens could do relatively better in the few succeeding days but might be a bit better for McAdams after that, depending on the order they're counting mail-in as well.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

They should honestly call both WA-03 and WA-08. WA-03 isn't even going to be lose, and while WA-08 could end up narrowly within 5%, Jensen isn't making up the gap.

As for the discussion of the Squad/centrist/M4A, I'll repeat my talking point: Messaging, messaging, messaging is everything.

Any idea why dems are so bad at messaging?

A few reasons.

1. Frustration: A lot of Democrats who are understandably fed up and tired at a lack of meaningful change on a number of issues want to make over-the-top slogans to try and draw attention to an issue. I think people who disagree should understand that this is a big part of where these overly simplistic proclamations come from, even if it's not a politically good strategy.

2. Lack of contact with those who aren't like-minded: It's not universally true that liberals live in a bubble, but many do, and simply don't understand how their messaging could be interpreted in a different way. Too many also push away those who criticize their messaging, even if they agree with the underlying goal.

3. Complicated ideas, simple slogans: Some ideas on the left are quite complex, and it's hard to find an accurate, succinct way of expressing those ideas. It's also hard to avoid using words that have a negative connotation in politics.

There are probably more, including the messengers themselves, but these are some big ones.

Well that's something certainly, I never understood their problems. Do you think that Bernie/Squad hurt a lot?

They haven't been the best messengers, that's for sure (especially Omar and Tlaib.) I think that, at the very least, they do pick up on a lot of the frustration part I talked about, but Democrats and progressives need to find a better way to communicate this. We hear all the time about how people in rural areas are struggling, and while it's true that some Democratic candidates don't pay enough attention to it, plenty of people in cities are struggling. The "ivory tower" image people like to bring up only describes a small number of people in urban areas. For many people, their problems are very real, and just moving somewhere less expensive is nowhere near as easy as it sounds.

The whole structure of our system amplifies folks who take issue with politics not revolving around their problems. I understand that a lot of people everywhere have their own sets of challenges, but there also needs to be a point where we say things like 250,000 dead people and kids in cages are too much.

[Tekken_Guy]

They should honestly call both WA-03 and WA-08. WA-03 isn't even going to be lose, and while WA-08 could end up narrowly within 5%, Jensen isn't making up the gap.

As for the discussion of the Squad/centrist/M4A, I'll repeat my talking point: Messaging, messaging, messaging is everything.

Any idea why dems are so bad at messaging?

A few reasons.

1. Frustration: A lot of Democrats who are understandably fed up and tired at a lack of meaningful change on a number of issues want to make over-the-top slogans to try and draw attention to an issue. I think people who disagree should understand that this is a big part of where these overly simplistic proclamations come from, even if it's not a politically good strategy.

2. Lack of contact with those who aren't like-minded: It's not universally true that liberals live in a bubble, but many do, and simply don't understand how their messaging could be interpreted in a different way. Too many also push away those who criticize their messaging, even if they agree with the underlying goal.

3. Complicated ideas, simple slogans: Some ideas on the left are quite complex, and it's hard to find an accurate, succinct way of expressing those ideas. It's also hard to avoid using words that have a negative connotation in politics.

There are probably more, including the messengers themselves, but these are some big ones.

Well that's something certainly, I never understood their problems. Do you think that Bernie/Squad hurt a lot?

They haven't been the best messengers, that's for sure (especially Omar and Tlaib.) I think that, at the very least, they do pick up on a lot of the frustration part I talked about, but Democrats and progressives need to find a better way to communicate this. We hear all the time about how people in rural areas are struggling, and while it's true that some Democratic candidates don't pay enough attention to it, plenty of people in cities are struggling. The "ivory tower" image people like to bring up only describes a small number of people in urban areas. For many people, their problems are very real, and just moving somewhere less expensive is nowhere near as easy as it sounds.

The whole structure of our system amplifies folks who take issue with politics not revolving around their problems. I understand that a lot of people everywhere have their own sets of challenges, but there also needs to be a point where we say things like 250,000 dead people and kids in cages are too much.

I think with COVID the GOP seemed successful at getting the blame off Trump.