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« Reply #15175 on: November 06, 2020, 10:11:26 PM »

NV AZ is Trump's best chance to challenge

When even Jessica is less of a partisan hack than you...wow
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« Reply #15176 on: November 06, 2020, 10:11:57 PM »

Might be a hot take but I think the fact that white men are swinging against Trump so hard it basically will decide the election is the best evidence yet that sexism sunk Hillary above all.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/7/13/1870970/-It-s-not-just-Republicans-Hostile-sexism-is-skewing-the-Democratic-primary

"among the most sexist Democratic primary voters, Biden is preferred by as much as a four-to-one margin"

"[Kamala] Harris’s support drops from around 15 percent among the least sexist voters to less than 5 percent among those who are most sexist.”"


I have nothing against Warren or Harris, but if even Democrats are this sexist, I'm pessimistic about the prospect of having a female president anytime soon.
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« Reply #15177 on: November 06, 2020, 10:12:39 PM »

NV AZ is Trump's best chance to challenge

When even Jessica is less of a partisan hack than you...wow
Cause I want votes to be verified? It was ok for dems to do this in 2000 though
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« Reply #15178 on: November 06, 2020, 10:13:11 PM »

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« Reply #15179 on: November 06, 2020, 10:13:27 PM »

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« Reply #15180 on: November 06, 2020, 10:14:21 PM »



Why are we posting Cardillo updates in here. Really?
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« Reply #15181 on: November 06, 2020, 10:14:45 PM »



They are *not* included in the current count.
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« Reply #15182 on: November 06, 2020, 10:15:14 PM »

Might be a hot take but I think the fact that white men are swinging against Trump so hard it basically will decide the election is the best evidence yet that sexism sunk Hillary above all.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/7/13/1870970/-It-s-not-just-Republicans-Hostile-sexism-is-skewing-the-Democratic-primary

"among the most sexist Democratic primary voters, Biden is preferred by as much as a four-to-one margin"

"[Kamala] Harris’s support drops from around 15 percent among the least sexist voters to less than 5 percent among those who are most sexist.”"


I have nothing against Warren or Harris, because they weren't my first choice anyway, but if even Democrats are this sexist, I'm pessimistic about the prospect of having a female president anytime soon, if even Democrats are this sexist.

I'm not pessimistic. With "the right kind of candidate," you can break through that. I remember reading a story posted by someone on here about someone who was campaigning/polling/whatever for Obama in rural Pennsylvania in 2008. He went up to someone's door and asked who he was voting for, and the guy said something along the lines of "I'm voting for the n*****."

Play it right and you can get people to vote for a candidate in spite of all sorts of prejudices.
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« Reply #15183 on: November 06, 2020, 10:15:24 PM »

Yeah, John Cardillo isnt reliable.
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« Reply #15184 on: November 06, 2020, 10:16:02 PM »

So I've been looking at the Florida swing map on the New York Times. Almost everything looked as I would expect at this point: big swing R in South Florida, slight D swing on East/West coasts, small swings through central Florida, and then a good D swing near Jacksonville and a good R swing into the Tallahassee area.

What surprised me though is the 4-8 point swing towards Biden in the Florida panhandle. I know he lost by a ton anyway, but that doesn't seem like the sort of area that would be trending his way. Okaloosa County currently has the biggest pro-Biden swing in the state at 8.1%. Anyone have any ideas why that happened?
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« Reply #15185 on: November 06, 2020, 10:16:32 PM »

NV AZ is Trump's best chance to challenge

When even Jessica is less of a partisan hack than you...wow
Cause I want votes to be verified? It was ok for dems to do this in 2000 though

Signed and legally cast ballots, in accordance with state law, =/= hanging chads. But Al Gore was also an idiot for not requesting a statewide recount which essentially undermined the validity of his challenge.
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« Reply #15186 on: November 06, 2020, 10:17:01 PM »



There are ~76.2K votes outside of Maricopa.

Of those, ~29.3K are from Apache, Pima, and Santa Cruz, which are blue county.  I am guessing that the vote count is split close to even.

That means that Trump is going to have to make up the difference from the ~46.9K left.
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« Reply #15187 on: November 06, 2020, 10:17:15 PM »
« Edited: November 06, 2020, 10:24:38 PM by Taking the D out of Driftless :( »

So I've been looking at the Florida swing map on the New York Times. Almost everything looked as I would expect at this point: big swing R in South Florida, slight D swing on East/West coasts, small swings through central Florida, and then a good D swing near Jacksonville and a good R swing into the Tallahassee area.

What surprised me though is the 4-8 point swing towards Biden in the Florida panhandle. I know he lost by a ton anyway, but that doesn't seem like the sort of area that would be trending his way. Okaloosa County currently has the biggest pro-Biden swing in the state at 8.1%. Anyone have any ideas why that happened?

Black turnout maybe?

Or maybe new population/demographic change? I know the Panhandle is increasingly popular for tourism.

Edit: Okaloosa in particular was 6.29% third-party in 2016. Since it seems like Biden picked up most of the 2016 third-party vote, I imagine that played a role also. Trump actually underperformed Bush (2000 and 2004), McCain, and Romney in that county in 2016. I think we could put that county specifically down to the growth of Crestview?

Edit Edit: Okaloosa voted 67% D in 1924, 72% R in 1928, and 90% D in 1932. Wtf lol
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« Reply #15188 on: November 06, 2020, 10:18:49 PM »

Ian Miles Cheong having a normal one

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« Reply #15189 on: November 06, 2020, 10:18:50 PM »

So I've been looking at the Florida swing map on the New York Times. Almost everything looked as I would expect at this point: big swing R in South Florida, slight D swing on East/West coasts, small swings through central Florida, and then a good D swing near Jacksonville and a good R swing into the Tallahassee area.

What surprised me though is the 4-8 point swing towards Biden in the Florida panhandle. I know he lost by a ton anyway, but that doesn't seem like the sort of area that would be trending his way. Okaloosa County currently has the biggest pro-Biden swing in the state at 8.1%. Anyone have any ideas why that happened?
military?, Veterans?i know 1st district in florida had the most veterans of any district in america
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« Reply #15190 on: November 06, 2020, 10:19:07 PM »

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« Reply #15191 on: November 06, 2020, 10:19:48 PM »

GA and AZ can still flip
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« Reply #15192 on: November 06, 2020, 10:21:54 PM »


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« Reply #15193 on: November 06, 2020, 10:22:05 PM »



They are *not* included in the current count.

I've looked all over twitter and can't find anyone else reporting this.
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« Reply #15194 on: November 06, 2020, 10:22:45 PM »



They are *not* included in the current count.


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« Reply #15195 on: November 06, 2020, 10:22:46 PM »

So I've been looking at the Florida swing map on the New York Times. Almost everything looked as I would expect at this point: big swing R in South Florida, slight D swing on East/West coasts, small swings through central Florida, and then a good D swing near Jacksonville and a good R swing into the Tallahassee area.

What surprised me though is the 4-8 point swing towards Biden in the Florida panhandle. I know he lost by a ton anyway, but that doesn't seem like the sort of area that would be trending his way. Okaloosa County currently has the biggest pro-Biden swing in the state at 8.1%. Anyone have any ideas why that happened?
military?, Veterans?i know 1st district in florida had the most veterans of any district in america

Okaloosa has Eglin AFB, a very large base.
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« Reply #15196 on: November 06, 2020, 10:23:32 PM »


I wanna know if he'll be just as angry in 4-5 decades if conservative politicians have ACB statuettes on their bookshelves.
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« Reply #15197 on: November 06, 2020, 10:24:01 PM »



They are *not* included in the current count.

I've looked all over twitter and can't find anyone else reporting this.

Like take Montco, I know for a fact they haven't reported them bc it says right on their website that they are taking all ballots post-8pm on Tuesday and setting them aside, counting them, but reporting them at another unspecified time
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« Reply #15198 on: November 06, 2020, 10:24:30 PM »

Well now.

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« Reply #15199 on: November 06, 2020, 10:25:09 PM »

So I've been looking at the Florida swing map on the New York Times. Almost everything looked as I would expect at this point: big swing R in South Florida, slight D swing on East/West coasts, small swings through central Florida, and then a good D swing near Jacksonville and a good R swing into the Tallahassee area.

What surprised me though is the 4-8 point swing towards Biden in the Florida panhandle. I know he lost by a ton anyway, but that doesn't seem like the sort of area that would be trending his way. Okaloosa County currently has the biggest pro-Biden swing in the state at 8.1%. Anyone have any ideas why that happened?

Military?

Elgin AFB is in Okaloosa.
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