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« Reply #8425 on: November 04, 2020, 10:26:35 PM »

It's kind of amazing all the lengths Trump has gone to:

1) Getting Kanye on the ballot

2) Slowing down the post office

3) Suing to stop vote counting

4) Massive misinformation campaign in South Florida

Wouldn't the more direct route to re-election have been to deal with the pandemic responsibly?  

It is really remarkable... if he just sent out some more Trump BucksTM and told everyone to stay home for a bit longer, this would have been a complete blowout.
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« Reply #8426 on: November 04, 2020, 10:27:47 PM »

It's kind of amazing all the lengths Trump has gone to:

1) Getting Kanye on the ballot

2) Slowing down the post office

3) Suing to stop vote counting

4) Massive misinformation campaign in South Florida

Wouldn't the more direct route to re-election have been to deal with the pandemic responsibly?  

It is really remarkable... if he just sent out some more Trump BucksTM and told everyone to stay home for a bit longer, this would have been a complete blowout.

Trump could have simply unveiled a line of Trump-branded facemasks and offered them for sale during a daily press conference, and then told his supporters he wants them alive and healthy so they could attend his tremendous rallies and vote to keep America great.

Why he didn't do this is really incomprehensible.
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« Reply #8427 on: November 04, 2020, 10:27:58 PM »

Is there any indication of why AP and Fox News were confident in calling AZ for Biden?

When Fox News called Ohio in 2008 much to Karl Rove's ire, Megan Kelly talked to the decision room and they said they look at precincts as part of make a call. The fact that there seems to be nothing left to count in heavily red Yavapai County might be part of their metric.

That actually occurred in 2012.

I don't know why I put 2008. I just rewatched that whole scene a few days ago.
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« Reply #8428 on: November 04, 2020, 10:28:01 PM »

Purdue is 50.15, will he fall under? Well see
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« Reply #8429 on: November 04, 2020, 10:28:08 PM »

"Fun" fact:

Out of the 30 states Trump won in 2016, 7 of them trended R (as of the vote counts a 9:57 ET on November 4th), while 23 of them trended D.

Of the 20 states Clinton won in 2016, 17 of them trended D and three trended R.

In other words, Dems are gaining everywhere, but much more so in states that are already safe. This is resulting in a close electoral college matchup despite improving their margin in 40 states.

Yayyy even more Democratic voter inefficiency, this is epic!

How do you conclude Dems are gaining "everywhere" after:

- The expectation of a blue wave in the house did not eventuate
- Senate looks likely to stay red
- Biden's supposed 7-8 point lead has ended up being a couple of points (despite spending the largest amount of money on an election campaign in human history)
- Trump had a remarkable results with blacks, latinos and asians (after we were told for four years how racist Trump is).


He’s going to win by 4-5 points (tons of votes left in CA and NY) and Trump didn’t really do well with blacks, just Latinos.

Trump's success with younger black men and rural black counties is concerning though.
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« Reply #8430 on: November 04, 2020, 10:28:28 PM »

GEM is pretty confident Biden will win Pennsylvania.
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« Reply #8431 on: November 04, 2020, 10:28:45 PM »


By all means stop the count and give the vote to Joe,
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« Reply #8432 on: November 04, 2020, 10:28:53 PM »

Perdue at 50.16%, looks like. Runoff chances?
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« Reply #8433 on: November 04, 2020, 10:29:08 PM »

GEM is pretty confident Biden will win Pennsylvania.

Wasserman, Cohn, Silver all seem to be too.
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« Reply #8434 on: November 04, 2020, 10:29:50 PM »


By all means stop the count and give the vote to Joe,

Well, if they were smart they wouldn’t have voted for Trump.
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« Reply #8435 on: November 04, 2020, 10:29:51 PM »

Taking another break.
Live on the west coast. Will return at about 11 pm or 12 am PST.
Hopefully we see more positive movement for Biden (especially in GA).
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« Reply #8436 on: November 04, 2020, 10:30:07 PM »

Perdue at 50.16%, looks like. Runoff chances?
I asked earlier, the general response was pretty high given the outstanding ballots.
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« Reply #8437 on: November 04, 2020, 10:30:14 PM »

What do the AZ protesters want? If they stop counting how can Trump pull ahead?
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« Reply #8438 on: November 04, 2020, 10:31:12 PM »

What do the AZ protesters want? If they stop counting how can Trump pull ahead?

It would be funny Democrats start tweeting #AZStopCounting
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« Reply #8439 on: November 04, 2020, 10:31:18 PM »

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« Reply #8440 on: November 04, 2020, 10:31:37 PM »

Is there any indication of why AP and Fox News were confident in calling AZ for Biden?

Idk, but I saw someone on Twitter pointed out the total number of votes in Biggs and Lesko district are higher than those in Gallego and Stanton districts.

Total number LEFT or total number COUNTED. If it’s the latter, I feel quite good about it.

Present count total for Gallego: ~172k
Present count total for Stanton: ~293k
Present count total for Lesko: ~357k
Present count total for Biggs: ~368k
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« Reply #8441 on: November 04, 2020, 10:31:57 PM »

What do the AZ protesters want? If they stop counting how can Trump pull ahead?

They duuuuuuuuuuuuuumb.
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« Reply #8442 on: November 04, 2020, 10:32:02 PM »



A 3 point swing is terrific?
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« Reply #8443 on: November 04, 2020, 10:32:37 PM »

Is there any indication of why AP and Fox News were confident in calling AZ for Biden?

When Fox News called Ohio in 2008 much to Karl Rove's ire, Megan Kelly talked to the decision room and they said they look at precincts as part of make a call. The fact that there seems to be nothing left to count in heavily red Yavapai County might be part of their metric.

That actually occurred in 2012.

I don't know why I put 2008. I just rewatched that whole scene a few days ago.

In 2008 Rove was talking on air when they interrupted him for the Ohio call, after he had just been explaining that Ohio is ball game. He was kind of shell shocked. He didn't question the call though that time.
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« Reply #8444 on: November 04, 2020, 10:32:45 PM »



A 3 point swing is terrific?

When you put it together with how well Biden is doing in the suburbs, yes.
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« Reply #8445 on: November 04, 2020, 10:32:48 PM »

What do the AZ protesters want? If they stop counting how can Trump pull ahead?

Well, you see, after the count is stopped, we will go back and remove the illegals from the count and then it is an easy Trump win.
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« Reply #8446 on: November 04, 2020, 10:32:54 PM »



A 3 point swing is terrific?

In a heavily GOP county, yes it is.  Biden is outperforming Hillary in deep red counties.
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« Reply #8447 on: November 04, 2020, 10:33:02 PM »

What do the AZ protesters want? If they stop counting how can Trump pull ahead?

They duuuuuuuuuuuuuumb.

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« Reply #8448 on: November 04, 2020, 10:33:13 PM »

Is there any indication of why AP and Fox News were confident in calling AZ for Biden?

Idk, but I saw someone on Twitter pointed out the total number of votes in Biggs and Lesko district are higher than those in Gallego and Stanton districts.

Total number LEFT or total number COUNTED. If it’s the latter, I feel quite good about it.

Present count total for Gallego: ~172k
Present count total for Stanton: ~293k
Present count total for Lesko: ~357k
Present count total for Biggs: ~368k
If the present vote totals is mostly in republican areas then I feel confident that Fox made the right decision
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« Reply #8449 on: November 04, 2020, 10:33:18 PM »



A 3 point swing is terrific?

Hillary lost the state by less than a point. If Biden is improving in areas she cratered in, then its a good sign he'll win.
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