COVID-19 Megathread 5: The Trumps catch COVID-19

[100% pro-life no matter what]

Yet another day where deaths continue to drop rapidly versus the same day last week despite a sustained uptick in cases and a slight uptick in positive test rate.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1275179726731182082

[It’s so Joever]

In about ten days, this thread will look different. I predicted a rise in Covid-19 cases starting in
June 12-17 due to reopenings and protests, I was doubted then.
Now deaths are going to go up by the 4th of July, watch it happen. It probably won’t be back to April numbers, but it will be a noticeable rise.

[HillGoose]

If I died I'd be going straight to hell lol

Hell has made one extra space for you in July, 2020.

For citizens of Nashville, Tennessee, the end is nigh.

https://www.newsweek.com/tennessee-newspaper-apologizes-running-horrific-anti-islam-ad-1512415

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbCu3cbX0AEqaem.jpg

This article was published in "The Tennessean" newspaper 21 June 2020.

On July 18, 2020, fundamental Islamic terrorists are going to detonate a nuclear weapon.

That will really cap off a big 2020.

And those fine people are not the only End of Times cult in Nashville either:

I must admit, I much prefer the town being over run by cats as opposed to the nuclear apocalypse.

You hate to see it.

Also I live far enough from Nashville that the nuke probably wouldn't kill me instantly, at least lmao. I'd get on Atlas and say goodbye b4 I died of radiation poisoning.

[HillGoose]

also u guys do realize that if they do quarantine again, a lot more people are going to die of suicide, drug overdose, alcoholism or what have u then will probably be killed by the virus. at least I imagine so.

quarantine made life so depressing.

also not to mention I think quarantining screwed up everybody's immune systems. I was WFH for a month and I've seriously got randomly sick (with sh**t other than covid) twice since then. I didn't even get sick twice in all of 2019, I don't think.

I really do think a second quarantine would kill far more people (and younger people with more years ahead of them at that) than keeping everything open would.

[It’s so Joever]

also u guys do realize that if they do quarantine again, a lot more people are going to die of suicide, drug overdose, alcoholism or what have u then will probably be killed by the virus.

do u have actual numbers n stats for that brah?

[HillGoose]

also u guys do realize that if they do quarantine again, a lot more people are going to die of suicide, drug overdose, alcoholism or what have u then will probably be killed by the virus.

do u have actual numbers n stats for that brah?

nah it's just what I feel like will happen based on like, how ppl are. at least around where I live.

[emailking]

also u guys do realize that if they do quarantine again, a lot more people are going to die of suicide, drug overdose, alcoholism or what have u then will probably be killed by the virus. at least I imagine so.

I am aware it has been suggested but am doubtful of the veracity. I am open to any evidence that suggests otherwise.

[GP270watch]

also u guys do realize that if they do quarantine again, a lot more people are going to die of suicide, drug overdose, alcoholism or what have u then will probably be killed by the virus. at least I imagine so.

I am aware it has been suggested but am doubtful of the veracity. I am open to any evidence that suggests otherwise.

 We have to let people die of a pandemic because they'll just eat a shotgun anyways, is like the dumbest logic ever.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Amazing how 3 months into lockdown, California is clearly at its worst point with the number of new cases vastly increasing and hospitalization hitting a record high too.  Time for Newsom to lock things back down.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Amazing how 3 months into lockdown, California is clearly at its worst point with the number of new cases vastly increasing and hospitalization hitting a record high too.  Time for Newsom to lock things back down.

Cailfornia’s problem is that lockdowns provide very little benefit in places where the virus doesn’t already have a strong presence.  They just delay the inevitable outbreak.  Newsome locked the entire state down based on an outbreak in the Bay Area but basically no significant infections in the southern half of the state, and now LA and the inland empire are seeing the consequences.

Edit: I probably shouldn't imply that the lockdown had -no- benefit in Southern California.  By delaying the surge in infections, they held off the majority of cases until we had developed much better testing and treatment, likely reducing the death toll by many thousands.  But the infections were still inevitable.  They could have stayed locked downs even longer, and likely treatment would continue to make improvements.  But the infection spike would still come.

[Dr. Arch]

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 6/22 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

Δ Change: Day-by-day Growth or Decline or COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.

• IE: Are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.

• IE: What's the overall change in the total?

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6/7: <Sunday>

• Cases: 2,007,449 (+20,274 | Δ Change: ↓39.93% | Σ Increase: ↑1.02%)
• Deaths: 112,469 (+412 | Δ Change: ↓38.78% | Σ Increase: ↑0.37%)

6/8:

• Cases: 2,026,493 (+19,044 | Δ Change: ↓6.07% | Σ Increase: ↑0.95%)
• Deaths: 113,055 (+586 | Δ Change: ↑42.23% | Σ Increase: ↑0.52%)

6/9:

• Cases: 2,045,549 (+19,056 | Δ Change: ↑0.06% | Σ Increase: ↑0.94%)
• Deaths: 114,148 (+1,093 | Δ Change: ↑86.52% | Σ Increase: ↑0.97%)

6/10:

• Cases: 2,066,508 (+20,959 | Δ Change: ↑9.98% | Σ Increase: ↑1.02%)
• Deaths: 115,137 (+989 | Δ Change: ↓9.52% | Σ Increase: ↑0.87%)

6/11:

• Cases: 2,089,701 (+23,193 | Δ Change: ↑10.66% | Σ Increase: ↑1.12%)
• Deaths: 116,034 (+897 | Δ Change: ↓9.30% | Σ Increase: ↑0.78%)

6/12:

• Cases: 2,116,922 (+27,221 | Δ Change: ↑17.37% | Σ Increase: ↑1.30%)
• Deaths: 116,825 (+791 | Δ Change: ↓11.82% | Σ Increase: ↑0.68%)

6/13:

• Cases: 2,142,224 (+25,302 | Δ Change: ↓7.05% | Σ Increase: ↑1.20%)
• Deaths: 117,527 (+702 | Δ Change: ↓11.25% | Σ Increase: ↑0.60%)

6/14: <Sunday>

• Cases: 2,162,144 (+19,920 | Δ Change: ↓21.27% | Σ Increase: ↑0.93%)
• Deaths: 117,853 (+326 | Δ Change: ↓53.56% | Σ Increase: ↑0.28%)

6/15:

• Cases: 2,182,950 (+20,806 | Δ Change: ↑4.45% | Σ Increase: ↑0.96%)
• Deaths: 118,283 (+430 | Δ Change: ↑31.90% | Σ Increase: ↑0.36%)

6/16:

• Cases: 2,208,400 (+25,450 | Δ Change: ↑22.32% | Σ Increase: ↑1.17%)
• Deaths: 119,132 (+849 | Δ Change: ↑97.44% | Σ Increase: ↑0.72%)

6/17:

• Cases: 2,234,471 (+26,071 | Δ Change: ↑2.44% | Σ Increase: ↑1.18%)
• Deaths: 119,941 (+809 | Δ Change: ↓4.71% | Σ Increase: ↑0.68%)

6/18:

• Cases: 2,263,651 (+29,180 | Δ Change: ↑11.93% | Σ Increase: ↑1.31%)
• Deaths: 120,688 (+747 | Δ Change: ↓7.66% | Σ Increase: ↑0.62%)

6/19:

• Cases: 2,297,190 (+33,539 | Δ Change: ↑14.94% | Σ Increase: ↑1.48%)
• Deaths: 121,407 (+719 | Δ Change: ↓3.75% | Σ Increase: ↑0.60%)

6/20:

• Cases: 2,330,578 (+33,388 | Δ Change: ↓0.45% | Σ Increase: ↑1.45%)
• Deaths: 121,980 (+573 | Δ Change: ↓20.31% | Σ Increase: ↑0.47%)

6/21 (Yesterday): <Sunday>

• Cases: 2,356,657 (+26,079 | Δ Change: ↓21.89% | Σ Increase: ↑1.12%)
• Deaths: 122,247 (+267 | Δ Change: ↓53.40% | Σ Increase: ↑0.22%)

6/22 (Today):

• Cases: 2,388,153 (+31,496 | Δ Change: ↑20.77% | Σ Increase: ↑1.34%)
• Deaths: 122,610 (+363 | Δ Change: ↑35.96% | Σ Increase: ↑0.30%)

[Gass3268]

I hope to God that they don't shut everything down again or I'm gonna be pissed.

Let those of us who don't give a sh**t take our chances. Possibly getting covid comes with the territory and we all know it.

The people who are so worried should just stay in their house. The Stasi aren't going to come to your house and force you to go to Red Lobster, damn.

Honestly there should be a deliberate infection program for people like you. If you want, you will  be deliberately infected but will be placed under house arrest (to prevent spread) as long as you test positive. Afterwards, you are free to do whatever you want no matter how many cases there are. The caveat is that you will be denied any medical assistance if needed. You will be in your home no matter how sick you get.

I'd be good with that tbh. I have weak lungs so I'm somebody who could probably be really in danger from covid but it's not like anybody cares. I can't allow myself to be stagnant.

The American 24/7 Hustle culture has really hit peak insanity.

I don't like putting s**t on hold either, but damn, saying you'd rather die than lose a couple of months of work is beyond me...

It's baffling to me too.

Muh liberty...

Seriously though, it's amazing how many whiny babies aren't willing to wear a mask out and about. We could probably get back relatively normal behavior with people just wore a mask!

[Koharu]

Dane County has now become a "hotspot," with over 60 new cases this weekend, whereas our goal to stay on track for the next phase of reopening would require less than 20 cases per day. The county is worrying about possibly having to step back to phase 1 instead of remaining in phase 2, though they did not establish any plans for how they would actually do that if it becomes necessary. 66% of the new cases this past week were in people 10-39, who do have a better chance of doing well, but it's still not a guarantee. As a person in that age group with high blood pressure (controlled extremely well with medication, thankfully), I'm terrified of this. I don't want to die, but I do have to buy groceries and do other tasks and so many people are not wearing masks.

[emailking]

Does the high blood pressure risk factor go away if it's lowered by medication?

[Koharu]

Does the high blood pressure risk factor go away if it's lowered by medication?

My understanding is no, but I am not a medical professional and may have completely wrong information.

[emailking]

More of this crap.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1275381670561095682

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

also u guys do realize that if they do quarantine again, a lot more people are going to die of suicide, drug overdose, alcoholism or what have u then will probably be killed by the virus.

do u have actual numbers n stats for that brah?

In Colorado suicides were down in March and April.

[pppolitics]

[Landslide Lyndon]

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1275461837572759552

[Middle-aged Europe]

Mr. Trump doesn't seem to be aware of the fact that Dr. Fauci is often making statements and recommendations that contradict whose of Trump. Statements such as these from today: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/fauci-says-u-s-will-expand-testing-not-slow-it-n1231877


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1275438930276409344


If there's someone who is saying one thing and who is very respected and popular and you often demand the exact opposite of that it's not totally out of the ordinary that your own approvals happen to be rather low and the news coverage pretty negative. That's logic 101.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1275486316432625665

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

Does the high blood pressure risk factor go away if it's lowered by medication?

It depends.  But, in general, if someone is on medication, the risk level decreases rather than being eliminated entirely.  

(IOW: said individual still needs to be careful.)

[Landslide Lyndon]

LMAO! Imagine that happening to Trump.

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1275513234930401281

[Gass3268]

Yet another day where deaths continue to drop rapidly versus the same day last week despite a sustained uptick in cases and a slight uptick in positive test rate.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1275179726731182082

Yikes...

https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1275546160204300291?s=21

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Yet another day where deaths continue to drop rapidly versus the same day last week despite a sustained uptick in cases and a slight uptick in positive test rate.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1275179726731182082

Yikes...

https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1275546160204300291?s=21

I don’t understand why Nate uses the reporting window he does.  He ends up entirely failing to count certain states some days, and then double counting them other days.

Worldometers reported 849 deaths last Tuesday, not 713.
That said, Worldometers is reporting 817 deaths today with two hours left in the reporting period, there there is a good chance they end up reporting a small week-over-week increase as well.