2020 AZ Senate Megathread: Kelly's Race to Lose
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« Reply #650 on: September 06, 2019, 12:33:50 PM »


Disagree. If Democrats can’t even beat McSally, they’ve already lost the Senate.

Lose AL
Gain CO
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AZ tipping point.
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« Reply #651 on: September 06, 2019, 12:50:05 PM »


Disagree. If Democrats can’t even beat McSally, they’ve already lost the Senate.

Lose AL
Gain CO
Gain ME
Gain NC
AZ tipping point.

I really don’t see Collins losing while McSally wins, and I’d say Tillis' seat is a little less vulnerable for Republicans than McSally's (but still very much winnable for Democrats, obviously).
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« Reply #652 on: October 24, 2019, 11:40:42 PM »

Any indication as to how McSally may vote on Trump's removal?
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« Reply #653 on: October 25, 2019, 04:40:01 PM »

Any indication as to how McSally may vote on Trump's removal?

There's no question she'll vote to keep him in.
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« Reply #654 on: October 25, 2019, 04:51:41 PM »

Any indication as to how McSally may vote on Trump's removal?

There's no question she'll vote to keep him in.

I guess McSally still hasn't learned that hugging Trump until the end is probably not a good strategy.
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« Reply #655 on: October 25, 2019, 05:12:33 PM »

I think the election will be very close, but in the end McSally will win. At the same time, Arizona will flip to the Democratic nominee narrowly too. I think these things will happen; I don't make this a very confident prediction.
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« Reply #656 on: October 25, 2019, 06:00:44 PM »

I think the election will be very close, but in the end McSally will win. At the same time, Arizona will flip to the Democratic nominee narrowly too. I think these things will happen; I don't make this a very confident prediction.

I seriously doubt it.

McSally has made zero effort to reach out to voters who don't like Trump.

If Trump loses Arizona, McSally is probably going down with him.
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« Reply #657 on: October 25, 2019, 09:06:56 PM »

Any indication as to how McSally may vote on Trump's removal?

There's no question she'll vote to keep him in.

I guess McSally still hasn't learned that hugging Trump until the end is probably not a good strategy.

Well, it's certainly a better strategy than voting to convict him and guaranteeing she gets Cagle'd in the primary.
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« Reply #658 on: October 25, 2019, 09:36:02 PM »

Running away from Trump wouldn’t do McSally (or Tillis) any good or win her any Democratic voters (all it would do is alienate a base she very much needs if she’s to even have a prayer in this race). Her strategy should be praying for a red wave regardless of the campaign she runs, because she’s certainly going to need it.
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« Reply #659 on: October 25, 2019, 09:42:37 PM »

Dems are gonna win AZ and CO right off the bat. Collins, Tillis and Kobach of KS are next
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« Reply #660 on: October 26, 2019, 03:05:52 AM »

Running away from Trump wouldn’t do McSally (or Tillis) any good or win her any Democratic voters (all it would do is alienate a base she very much needs if she’s to even have a prayer in this race). Her strategy should be praying for a red wave regardless of the campaign she runs, because she’s certainly going to need it.

Arizona is an elastic state with a lot of independent voters.

It's not so much that she need to win over Democratic voters, but rather, that she needs to win over independent voters.

If she loses them by any significant margin, she is ****ed.
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« Reply #661 on: January 08, 2020, 10:17:40 PM »
« Edited: January 08, 2020, 10:21:41 PM by KaiserDave »

Why....

She is running a traditional conservative campaign if not to the right of that in ARIZONA in the year 2020. Against a popular moderate with a unique background like Kelly she seems doomed to fail. Why is she running a 2004 campaign in 2020. She's literally running to the right of her 2014 congressional campaign. She might be afraid of a primary challenge sure, but right now she's running her campaign in the ground. Why? And how could/can she turn it around?
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« Reply #662 on: January 08, 2020, 11:15:38 PM »

Simplest answer--She is an idiot.  It's a pretty common affliction in the GOP
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« Reply #663 on: January 08, 2020, 11:26:34 PM »

AZ is not an R state anymore, it's a Sunbelt like NV, NM, CA, CO and HI
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« Reply #664 on: January 09, 2020, 06:50:48 AM »

Governor Ducey chose her to run so she can lose, this way he can run for the seat himself in 2022.
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« Reply #665 on: January 09, 2020, 07:23:27 AM »

Governor Ducey chose her to run so she can lose, this way he can run for the seat himself in 2022.
If Trump is reelected, Ducey has a better shot in 2024 than in 2022
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« Reply #666 on: January 09, 2020, 07:53:29 AM »

Simplest answer--She is an idiot.  It's a pretty common affliction in the GOP

Yeah because insulting tens of millions of people just because of their partisan affiliation is very clever, if there is a idiot here your are probably the one.
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« Reply #667 on: January 09, 2020, 09:21:23 AM »

Because she is an incredibly overrated candidate that everybody seems to think is a perfect fit for Arizona. I think people forget that she only BARELY defeated Barber in 2014 and didn't face a serious challenge in 2016 because of her fundraising prowess scaring away Democrats - even though Clinton won her district.
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« Reply #668 on: January 09, 2020, 11:38:20 AM »

I mean, the Republican strategy seems to be embracing Trump 100% in the hopes of driving up turnout and getting all of Trump's support. Given that she's been running behind Trump in recent polls, that might not be all that terrible of a strategy. Plus, it's not like Republicans get a lot of flak for running/voting in swing states like hardcore conservatives. Only Democrats are expected to "move to the center."
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« Reply #669 on: January 09, 2020, 11:42:20 AM »

Because Republicans have learned to worry more about the primary than the general election.
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« Reply #670 on: January 09, 2020, 05:49:59 PM »

McSally is the kind of candidate you only vote for because of the letter next to her name, but that’s simply no longer enough for the GOP in the Arizona of 2020. She’s not a good fit for the Republican base, the state is trending away from Republicans, her sudden embrace of Trump (justifiably) comes off as overly calculating, she was appointed to the Senate one month after losing statewide, etc.

No one should be surprised that she’s underperforming Trump by a few points. Flake did 6 points worse than Romney in 2012 too.
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« Reply #671 on: January 09, 2020, 05:53:59 PM »

"Acting"?
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« Reply #672 on: January 09, 2020, 06:10:09 PM »

Simplest answer--She is an idiot.  It's a pretty common affliction in the GOP

Yeah because insulting tens of millions of people just because of their partisan affiliation is very clever, if there is a idiot here your you're are probably the one.

If you are going to call someone an idiot then you should check your spelling first.
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« Reply #673 on: January 09, 2020, 06:43:03 PM »

Simplest answer--She is an idiot.  It's a pretty common affliction in the GOP

Yeah because insulting tens of millions of people just because of their partisan affiliation is very clever, if there is a idiot here your are probably the one.
Cause as we all know republicans don’t insult democratic voters at all 🙄
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« Reply #674 on: January 09, 2020, 07:03:33 PM »

Simplest answer--She is an idiot.  It's a pretty common affliction in the GOP

Yeah because insulting tens of millions of people just because of their partisan affiliation is very clever, if there is a idiot here your are probably the one.

Republicans: Those liberal Californians and New Yorkers are scumbag elitists and a scourge on this nation.

"Just campaign strategy people, gotta appeal to the #WWC."

Someone: suggest the party full of climate deniers and that uses "The brown people are coming!" as a main tactic isn't the sharpest bunch of knives.

"This is highly offensive and defamatory to tens of millions! When will the divisiveness end?"
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