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« Reply #1150 on: February 16, 2022, 11:56:38 AM »
Quote from: Gass3268 on February 16, 2022, 11:55:16 AM
Quote from: lfromnj on February 16, 2022, 11:50:35 AM


Winston Salem,Fayettville both split in 2, Democrats get 5 safe seats from Charlotte. Map is pretty close to a D gerrymander arguably, not sure why the GOP wouldn't just let the special masters draw it at this point, and redraw after 24. Not sure how much worse it could it get.

Pretty sure they can't redraw the legislative maps again, unless court ordered. Congressional maps are a different story.

Technically redistricting is also supposed to be the duty of the legislature, if the maps were drawn by the court they could use that to argue that the maps should be drawn by the legislature in 23.
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« Reply #1151 on: February 16, 2022, 12:10:53 PM »
Quote from: lfromnj on February 16, 2022, 11:50:35 AM


Winston Salem,Fayettville both split in 2, Democrats get 5 safe seats from Charlotte. Map is pretty close to a D gerrymander arguably, not sure why the GOP wouldn't just let the special masters draw it at this point, and redraw after 24. Not sure how much worse it could it get.

The state legislature maps can’t be redrawn mid decade.
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« Reply #1152 on: February 16, 2022, 12:12:02 PM »
At least the northeast rural districts are "somewhat" better than before.
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« Reply #1153 on: February 16, 2022, 12:17:51 PM »
Quote from: Doctor V on February 16, 2022, 07:00:36 AM
Yeah, this just looks like a bad map entirely aside from partisanship, just on CoI grounds. I sure hope the Senate can do better than that (and if not, the SC should take the reins here).

WELP

Never mind, the Senate map is even worse.

Purple heart you, NCGOP. Even when you try to play by the rules, you still f**k it up.
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« Reply #1154 on: February 16, 2022, 12:18:45 PM »
Also gotta love the 2000 era TN 7th with regards to NC 9th. Combining the suburbs of the 2 biggest metro areas in a Safe R seat.
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« Reply #1155 on: February 16, 2022, 12:20:59 PM »
Quote from: Gass3268 on February 16, 2022, 11:39:46 AM

Funnily enough a lot of the districts there are similar to a competitivemander I started making earlier today.

Though I had the 8th going to Forsyth, not Alamance. Take it to Forsyth and it's much more even rather than R-leaning.
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« Reply #1156 on: February 16, 2022, 01:14:34 PM »
For real though what is with the Chapel Hill brainworms? Like what is the point? I just don't get it
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« Reply #1157 on: February 16, 2022, 01:47:42 PM »
Quote from: GALeftist on February 16, 2022, 01:14:34 PM
For real though what is with the Chapel Hill brainworms? Like what is the point? I just don't get it

Putting it in a GOP district makes said district more competitive without running into VRA issues (because Chapel Hill is so white).
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« Reply #1158 on: February 16, 2022, 04:52:42 PM »
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« Reply #1159 on: February 16, 2022, 04:53:48 PM »
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Maybe this means no stupidity with Chapel Hill?
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« Reply #1160 on: February 16, 2022, 04:54:40 PM »
« Edited: February 16, 2022, 05:02:12 PM by lfromnj »
Quote from: lfromnj on February 16, 2022, 11:50:35 AM


Winston Salem,Fayettville both split in 2, Democrats get 5 safe seats from Charlotte. Map is pretty close to a D gerrymander arguably, not sure why the GOP wouldn't just let the special masters draw it at this point, and redraw after 24. Not sure how much worse it could it get.

edit, it was only Fayetville where they really split. The core of WS is still one district making the other one Safe R . Also do my eyes decieve me or did they split Wilmington?

Dem path to 25 is the 25 Cooper seats and later the Cabarrus seat or run a decent candidate in Goldsboro Wilson seat which is barely Forrest but relatively inelastic.




R path to 30 seems to be the 28 Trump seats + Wilmington which they already hold and then either the NE black seats or a Wake seat.

Seems ok overall, not sure what exactly is fair in Moore-Cumberland. Dems get a gerrymander in Meck and Rs get a light gerrymander in Wilmington
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« Reply #1161 on: February 16, 2022, 05:05:58 PM »
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Maybe this means no stupidity with Chapel Hill?

Inshallah.
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« Reply #1162 on: February 16, 2022, 05:40:47 PM »
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« Reply #1163 on: February 16, 2022, 05:51:51 PM »
Quote from: lfromnj on February 16, 2022, 05:40:47 PM

Ya honestly I think the NCSC was always lost for Dems so it’s not like this was a ‘bad’ play politically. The real issue is that the NCSC is basically just an overlord oligarchy that can override practically anything the elected legislature does.

Dems really should take the 7-5-2 offer if it is still on the table.
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« Reply #1164 on: February 16, 2022, 05:59:58 PM »


Ross is a Democrat, Edmunds is an R, Orr is basically the Luttig of NC.
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« Reply #1165 on: February 16, 2022, 06:00:52 PM »
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Quote from: lfromnj on February 16, 2022, 05:40:47 PM

Ya honestly I think the NCSC was always lost for Dems so it’s not like this was a ‘bad’ play politically. The real issue is that the NCSC is basically just an overlord oligarchy that can override practically anything the elected legislature does.

I mean, is that any different than the US Supreme Court? (I for one feel that the US Supreme Court is too powerful.)
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« Reply #1166 on: February 16, 2022, 07:16:39 PM »


Proposed Chapel Hill district for tomorow.
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« Reply #1167 on: February 16, 2022, 08:44:47 PM »
Quote from: lfromnj on February 16, 2022, 07:16:39 PM


Proposed Chapel Hill district for tomorow.

Found their draft for the 18th.
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« Reply #1168 on: February 16, 2022, 09:40:41 PM »
Quote from: lfromnj on February 16, 2022, 05:40:47 PM


I'm more curious about the state legislative maps; I think it's more likely than not they don't survive the decade, however, the rules around this are quite vague.
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« Reply #1169 on: February 16, 2022, 10:38:56 PM »


Least change NC map attempt. The Tech Triad is the area that needs the most reconfiguration thanks to insane growth and also it's the most logical place to squeeze in the 14th seat (which would've narrowly gone to Biden). All the other seats are pretty self-explanatory
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« Reply #1170 on: February 16, 2022, 10:49:14 PM »
what exactly is a tech triad
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« Reply #1171 on: February 16, 2022, 10:53:12 PM »
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Least change NC map attempt. The Tech Triad is the area that needs the most reconfiguration thanks to insane growth and also it's the most logical place to squeeze in the 14th seat (which would've narrowly gone to Biden). All the other seats are pretty self-explanatory

Your 14th is pretty strange: why split Cumberland to put Fayettville (not in the Triangle) into the 14th but not Johnston County (actually in the Triangle)?
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« Reply #1172 on: February 16, 2022, 10:57:22 PM »
Senate map with 25 Biden districts.  I don't know if some deviations are too high, I just made sure they're lower than 12k.  I kept most of the proposed map's county groupings the same.





https://davesredistricting.org/join/09fda123-ab7b-4a36-8a43-719f1bfea181
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« Reply #1173 on: February 16, 2022, 10:58:52 PM »
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Least change NC map attempt. The Tech Triad is the area that needs the most reconfiguration thanks to insane growth and also it's the most logical place to squeeze in the 14th seat (which would've narrowly gone to Biden). All the other seats are pretty self-explanatory

Your 14th is pretty strange: why split Cumberland to put Fayettville (not in the Triangle) into the 14th but not Johnston County (actually in the Triangle)?

I was debating it but the remaining half of Johnson County is less populated with Fayetteville which makes things a bit weird. I could try having the 7th take in all of Cumberland but it just works out weirdly population wise.



Here's a quick attempt; Cumberland pretty much has to be split unless the 14th takes in Pender County
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« Reply #1174 on: February 16, 2022, 11:00:56 PM »
Quote from: Nyvin on February 16, 2022, 10:57:22 PM
Senate map with 25 Biden districts.  I don't know if some deviations are too high, I just made sure they're lower than 12k.  I kept most of the proposed map's county groupings the same.





https://davesredistricting.org/join/09fda123-ab7b-4a36-8a43-719f1bfea181

Why do you put black areas of Greensboro, Charlotte, and Fayetteville with white rural/suburban areas?
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