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« Reply #525 on: November 02, 2023, 06:13:04 AM »



Looks Like Meijer getting in. Would be a strong GE candidate should he get there. (primary will be difficult)

Super weird that this race has multiple solid to decent candidates but there is seemingly no one in WI
Open seat dynamics are naturally better for prospective candidates. If I was the NRSC, I would triage Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and go all in on this race and Ohio in the midwest.

Yeah, Republicans are lucky Stabenow is a decade older than Baldwin and Casey.
Stabenow is actually a weaker incumbent as well. Even if she was running for re-election, Michigan would still be an easier flip than the other two.
I'd argue it would be even easier, because you can argue "It's time for someone new!" and she doesn't seem to reach out to the center like Slotkin does
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« Reply #526 on: November 06, 2023, 07:48:43 AM »
« Edited: November 06, 2023, 07:56:58 AM by Roll Roons »


It'll be a hell of a hard road for him, but endorsed nonetheless.
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« Reply #527 on: November 06, 2023, 09:04:46 AM »

LMAO, "moderate" my ass - of course now that he needs to win a primary, Joe Biden is worse than the insurrection, somehow.

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« Reply #528 on: November 06, 2023, 09:23:21 AM »

Slotkin wins that's why Stabenow retired to give Slotkin a better shot against Mejer, Stabenow was clearly vulnerable to Mejer but she still would have won
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« Reply #529 on: November 06, 2023, 10:16:05 AM »

Guy couldn’t even win his own primary, how does he expect to win the entire state??
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« Reply #530 on: November 06, 2023, 10:24:39 AM »

Would make it Leans R outright if he could win the primary, actually, but really hard to imagine him winning the primary. Also kind of a dumb race for him to run, because while he clearly has a future in the post-Trump era when no one cares about 2021, and that vote is easy to cash in for moderate points, that future is just not here yet.

If he's determined to run for something, he should run for Mayor of Grand Rapids, or his old congressional seat, or something like that.

Guy couldn’t even win his own primary, how does he expect to win the entire state??

In fairness he actually did the best in his own primary of all the Republicans who voted to impeach by raw percentage; Valadao and Newhouse only won their nominations because their opponents were disunited. My understanding is that within his district, his efforts to campaign for Gibbs (who he apparently personally got along pretty well with) after losing the primary actually mended a lot of fences, and he's not dead in the water in his local area. That said, I don't think he's mended fences with Trump himself, and I don't know if this is even possible, and that's what it would take to just be competitive statewide, much less win, in 2024. Also the NRSC wants Rogers, and candidates from western Michigan rarely win statewide primaries; Grand Rapids versus Lansing may not feel like a large advantage for Lansing but it really is.
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« Reply #531 on: November 06, 2023, 10:28:39 AM »

Would make it Leans R outright if he could win the primary, actually, but really hard to imagine him winning the primary. Also kind of a dumb race for him to run, because while he clearly has a future in the post-Trump era when no one cares about 2021, and that vote is easy to cash in for moderate points, that future is just not here yet.

If he's determined to run for something, he should run for Mayor of Grand Rapids, or his old congressional seat, or something like that.

Guy couldn’t even win his own primary, how does he expect to win the entire state??

In fairness he actually did the best in his own primary of all the Republicans who voted to impeach by raw percentage; Valadao and Newhouse only won their nominations because their opponents were disunited. My understanding is that within his district, his efforts to campaign for Gibbs (who he apparently personally got along pretty well with) after losing the primary actually mended a lot of fences, and he's not dead in the water in his local area. That said, I don't think he's mended fences with Trump himself, and I don't know if this is even possible, and that's what it would take to just be competitive statewide, much less win, in 2024. Also the NRSC wants Rogers, and candidates from western Michigan rarely win statewide primaries; Grand Rapids versus Lansing may not feel like a large advantage for Lansing but it really is.

Emerson had Mejer losing to Slotkin 45/38 sorry but Mejer will lose I posted the poll a while back
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« Reply #532 on: November 06, 2023, 11:32:35 AM »

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« Reply #533 on: November 06, 2023, 11:50:53 AM »
« Edited: November 06, 2023, 12:01:21 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

The balance of Power in S in 48/50 and 2 anyways coming down  to OH, MT


LEAN D PA, WI, MI
LEAN R TX, MO, FL, WV



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« Reply #534 on: November 06, 2023, 03:39:09 PM »

Wow! Joe O’Dea could certainly make Colorado competitive. This result is a big win for Republicans.
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« Reply #535 on: November 06, 2023, 04:07:00 PM »

DOA in the primary
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« Reply #536 on: November 06, 2023, 04:08:45 PM »


Not really. He has a chance of sneaking through a clown car.
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« Reply #537 on: November 06, 2023, 04:13:49 PM »

He couldn't win a primary in Grand Rapids where his name is royalty. He won't get more than 15% of the primary vote, even a clown car can't help him.
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« Reply #538 on: November 06, 2023, 07:35:48 PM »


Not with Mike Rogers in as well,  Meijer will be one of the clowns.
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« Reply #539 on: November 06, 2023, 08:02:41 PM »

It's Lean D anyways
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« Reply #540 on: November 06, 2023, 08:36:08 PM »

First you allow 4 statewide losers to run in 4 different states. A 5th was about to run until you convinced him to back a Connecticut resident. Then you fail to recruit a single statewide officeholder in a state 20 points to the right of the country. Fail to recruit a single person in a state you won in 2022.

Finally you are gifted 2 A or B tier candidates in an open seat race and you shun both in favor of a person that hasn’t served in Congress in years. Truly amazing incompetence.
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« Reply #541 on: November 06, 2023, 08:48:34 PM »


It's not incompetence. Nobody wants to work with McConnell and competent people generally aren't interested in public office to begin with.
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« Reply #542 on: November 06, 2023, 09:16:49 PM »

I'm honestly impressed that the MI GOP has found decent candidates. Mike Rogers, James Craig, and Peter Meijer are all solid recruits.
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« Reply #543 on: November 06, 2023, 09:31:18 PM »

LOL yep, absolutely DOA in the primary. Plus look at that whackjob he lost to in his House primary. Shouldn't have even been close.
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« Reply #544 on: November 06, 2023, 09:38:14 PM »

LOL yep, absolutely DOA in the primary. Plus look at that whackjob he lost to in his House primary. Shouldn't have even been close.

What is his ceiling in the primary?
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« Reply #545 on: November 06, 2023, 09:40:59 PM »

LOL yep, absolutely DOA in the primary. Plus look at that whackjob he lost to in his House primary. Shouldn't have even been close.

What is his ceiling in the primary?
Maybe like 20%.
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« Reply #546 on: November 07, 2023, 05:59:53 AM »


Idiots. Craig and Meijer are stronger than Rogers
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« Reply #547 on: November 07, 2023, 06:07:10 AM »

Would make it Leans R outright if he could win the primary, actually, but really hard to imagine him winning the primary. Also kind of a dumb race for him to run, because while he clearly has a future in the post-Trump era when no one cares about 2021, and that vote is easy to cash in for moderate points, that future is just not here yet.

If he's determined to run for something, he should run for Mayor of Grand Rapids, or his old congressional seat, or something like that.

Guy couldn’t even win his own primary, how does he expect to win the entire state??

In fairness he actually did the best in his own primary of all the Republicans who voted to impeach by raw percentage; Valadao and Newhouse only won their nominations because their opponents were disunited. My understanding is that within his district, his efforts to campaign for Gibbs (who he apparently personally got along pretty well with) after losing the primary actually mended a lot of fences, and he's not dead in the water in his local area. That said, I don't think he's mended fences with Trump himself, and I don't know if this is even possible, and that's what it would take to just be competitive statewide, much less win, in 2024. Also the NRSC wants Rogers, and candidates from western Michigan rarely win statewide primaries; Grand Rapids versus Lansing may not feel like a large advantage for Lansing but it really is.
What about Craig? He's literally god tier on paper, why wouldn't they want him? Is it because of his campaign failure last year?
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« Reply #548 on: November 07, 2023, 06:28:29 AM »

Would make it Leans R outright if he could win the primary, actually, but really hard to imagine him winning the primary. Also kind of a dumb race for him to run, because while he clearly has a future in the post-Trump era when no one cares about 2021, and that vote is easy to cash in for moderate points, that future is just not here yet.

If he's determined to run for something, he should run for Mayor of Grand Rapids, or his old congressional seat, or something like that.

Guy couldn’t even win his own primary, how does he expect to win the entire state??

In fairness he actually did the best in his own primary of all the Republicans who voted to impeach by raw percentage; Valadao and Newhouse only won their nominations because their opponents were disunited. My understanding is that within his district, his efforts to campaign for Gibbs (who he apparently personally got along pretty well with) after losing the primary actually mended a lot of fences, and he's not dead in the water in his local area. That said, I don't think he's mended fences with Trump himself, and I don't know if this is even possible, and that's what it would take to just be competitive statewide, much less win, in 2024. Also the NRSC wants Rogers, and candidates from western Michigan rarely win statewide primaries; Grand Rapids versus Lansing may not feel like a large advantage for Lansing but it really is.
What about Craig? He's literally god tier on paper, why wouldn't they want him? Is it because of his campaign failure last year?

Rs won't win this race the balance of power is a split Sen which Brown and Tester will overperformrned Biden and win 51/49 in OH and MT



Lean D PA, MI, WI, VA 48
Tossup/Tilt D AZ, NV, OH, MT 2
Lean R WV, FL, TX. 50
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« Reply #549 on: November 07, 2023, 08:23:49 AM »



How to alienate all components of your party at once.
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