Russia-Ukraine war and related tensions Megathread

[Frodo]

https://twitter.com/noelreports/status/1672650234877341696?s=12
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I just realized this was in Ukraine.  I have been so focused on the rebellion in Russia that for a moment I thought their armies east of the Urals just revolted too.  

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

This thread is now moving with the speed it did March '22, wow.

We will make it to a thousand pages -I know we can. 

Is this the longest thread in Atlas history? If not yet, it will be soon.

Yes, it overtook the previous leader (the 2020 Presidential election results thread) some time ago.

Most likely this will be the first ever thread in Atlas history to reach a thousand pages.

[BG-NY]

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1672648087859257346?s=46

[Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist]

https://twitter.com/drewpavlou/status/1672610114786963456

[John Dule]

[Ferguson97]

Some posts going around, with the standard obviously questionable veracity, reporting Lukashenko is claiming to have negotiated a stop in Wagner's movement to "de-escalate."

Won't mean much of anything til that's confirmed by them provably stopping or a statement from Prig.

https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1672655323767754752

https://twitter.com/olliecarroll/status/1672657227847483392

[Frodo]

Some posts going around, with the standard obviously questionable veracity, reporting Lukashenko is claiming to have negotiated a stop in Wagner's movement to "de-escalate."

Won't mean much of anything til that's confirmed by them provably stopping or a statement from Prig.

https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1672655323767754752

https://twitter.com/olliecarroll/status/1672657227847483392

In the event Lukashenko has to flee Belarus, I can imagine he wants Moscow as a refuge for him and his family, and a Russia spiraling into civil war just isn't conducive to that. 

[Torie]

Recruitment banners for the Wagner mercenary group were seen being taken down from billboards on Saturday.

Efforts to create roadblocks have started to emerge from regions between Moscow and southern Russia to prevent Wagner mercenaries from entering the capital city. In Lipetsk region, authorities were seen making the M4 highway unusable by digging out an improvised moat.

[Badger]

Hi everyone! I’m new. I came across this board for more ways to get information on the war. I finally decided to sign up in order to ignore a certain Putin fan boy from clogging the feed. From just reading responses and posts, I can say that never before have I felt such a strong and genuine hatred for anyone online until I saw Woody and other western Putin-lovers. (Politically im center right. Very much an establishment/moderate Republican)

That said, Slava Ukraïni and to victory!

I agree with every word. Welcome to the forum!

[Ferguson97]

Weird....



https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672658620671041540

[Woody]

https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1672656890562596865?cxt=HHwWgsC-kY6lvLYuA...
https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1672657964476387329?cxt=HHwWgsC-tc_jvLYuA...

[Badger]

Hi everyone! I’m new. I came across this board for more ways to get information on the war. I finally decided to sign up in order to ignore a certain Putin fan boy from clogging the feed. From just reading responses and posts, I can say that never before have I felt such a strong and genuine hatred for anyone online until I saw Woody and other western Putin-lovers. (Politically im center right. Very much an establishment/moderate Republican)

That said, Slava Ukraïni and to victory!

Woodbury is pro-Ukraine.

And George Wallace supported the Civil Rights Act

Yes, George Wallace even appointed more black people to state positions than any other governor in Alabama history in the 1980s. Not sure why you are pointing why he was no longer remotely a segregationist in the 1980s, it undermines your case.

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You are correct, but clearly this jab was referring to 1950s and '60s George Wallace. He could have said Strom Thurmond and the point should have been just as clear

[jaichind]

In theory the Prigozhin's press service posted

https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/1672659079058305024

[jaichind]

I am impressed by the speed Wagner column. Looks like they will be a headache for the Russian government well after the war

[jaichind]

(Bloomberg) -- Wagner is turning its columns and leaving in the opposite direction to the field camps according to the plan, Prigozhin says in audio file posted in his telegram channel.

[Frodo]

It hardly matters at this point -the precedent has just been set.  Now we know just how weak Putin's regime (and how unstable the Russian state) truly is.  

[Woody]

What will Putin do now? He just made a televised speech about them "stabbing" the Motherland in the back, is there anyway he will let Prigozhin walk after doing something like this?

[Storr]

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1672642236012544000?s=20

[Agonized-Statism]

Prigozhin's like "it's just a prank bro"

[windjammer]

What a Big humiliation for Putin

[Badger]

It’s disgusting.

There was also this treatment of South Africa in Poland during their trip to Ukraine:

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You know what else is disgusting? Selling weapons and taking the side of a country waging a genocidal war of agression. That’s what South Africa is doing. Poland knows damn well better than anyone what Russians are, and if that’s the side South Africa wants to take; then they should be treated as an enemy.

Global South Guy and “Economic statistic text-wall Guy” join Bakhmut Bob on my ignore list

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You're learning quickly

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

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"We're launching a coup because you tried to kill us"

*several hours later*

"Jokes, everything is fine now, back to normal for some reason"

[PSOL]

Putin is highly likely to not be in power within two years if they don’t take Kharkov, more and more my prediction is coming to fruition.

[BG-NY]

The odds of neither Putin nor Zelensky being heads of state by end of year are shockingly high at the moment.

[jaichind]

This rebellion style fits very well with Chinese rebellion style

The internal DPP recriminations have started already.  No one is attacking DPP Prez Tsai.  But that is in keeping with Chinese Confucian norms of blind loyalty toward authority and leadership.  Instead, the de facto attacks on DPP Prez Tsai come from the old fashion Chinese philosophical rebellion workaround of 清君側 (removing poor ministers) where attacks are on those closest to Tsai which everyone knows is just a de facto attack on Tsai.  

The idea is "No, I am not rebelling against the Emperor.  That would be criminal.  I am ultra-loyal to the Emperor.  I am merely forming a righteous rising against the poor counsel that has led the Emperor astray.  Our armies  march toward the capital not against the Emperor but FOR the Emperor to remove these poor counsels."