January 6th legal proceedings and investigations megathread

[emailking]

I know we're supposed to ignore you but Garland hasn't said he's not indicting Trump until after the midterms. He hasn't said anything abut Trump at all other than they don't do investigations in public and emphatically stating that no one is above the law when pressed about Trump.

But no he won't be indicted before the midterms.

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

Indict him already:

Jan. 6 Panel Members Call On DOJ To Open Criminal Investigation Into Trump

If the DoJ hasn’t been running an investigation on Trump since the new admin took over Garland should be fired.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I am not concerned about an indictment, if it happens that would be okay but as I have said many times, it's a 303 map Trump isn't winning anyways and on Eday 22 even if we lose the H the Sen and Govs can reflect the 303 because as we know Rs blocked Voting Rights, H is gerrymandering in FL and TX that's why Rs are favored but there is little voter suppression in 303 states and SCOTUS has enhanced Gerrymandering if Rs win the H they are assisted by this right wing SCOTUS, they won't win it on their own

An indictment means charge not convicted, Trump can still run while he is charged

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Furthermore the reason why the DA in GA and DOJ, is precisely what an indictment means, the Defense will bring in all sort of evidence in a Trump trial, Trump is gonna bring up Pelosi was in charge of Security, even though it's not part of the Commission it will be brought up at Trial, Trump already said he is gonna use Pelosi

This is part of the reason why Rs acquitted Trump during impeachment, Pelosi was in charge of Capita security

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

In one Oval Office meeting, a triple Russian threat  - A midnight rendezvous with Trump posed a national security risk, says former FBI counterintelligence deputy Peter Strzok

Late on the night of Dec. 18, 2020, a small group of people sat in the Oval Office with Donald Trump, loser of the previous month’s presidential election. White House advisers and campaign staff had repeatedly told him he’d lost — as witness after witness appearing before the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol affirmed — and every lawsuit challenging the outcome had gone against him. Regardless, this meeting’s participants were there to explore a range of extraordinary, and extraordinarily dangerous, options to keep Trump in power, including invoking martial law, seizing voting machines extralegally and deploying the National Guard to rerun the election.

Consider that the tiny group in the Oval Office that night was made up of not one, not two, but three people who’d had direct contact with employees or sanctioned or convicted agents of the Russian government: Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, Trump’s former national security adviser Michael Flynn and former Overstock chief executive Patrick Byrne. At a moment of grave national peril for the United States, this was an astonishing intelligence achievement for Russia. Giuliani, Flynn and Byrne had all been likely targets of Russian information collection. Russia sought to gain access, develop relationships and, in varying ways, gather information from and convey disinformation to men who later had direct access to the Oval Office and the president. Each one, whether he knew it or not, had been bought, suckered or seduced by Russia.

Do I think any of the three men who graced the Dec. 18 meeting are recruited Russian agents? No. But at a certain level, it doesn’t matter. The bulk of Russia’s intelligence collection relies not on directed agents but on indirect contacts and friendships. That’s the way most countries collect most intelligence. Russia is just as happy with contacts who can be nurtured and developed to provide information (as Flynn did when he communicated the incoming administration’s position on U.S. sanctions for Russia’s attacks on the 2016 election) or pass on disinformation (as Giuliani did when he drew attention to edited audiotapes purporting to detail interactions between Vice President Joe Biden and Ukrainian government officials).

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Kinzinger definitely had a great speech at the end.

I wish more Republicans had courage to stand up to what they know is wrong. I wish the American people weren't engaged in party tribalism. I hope Trump's attempted coup has not opened the door for future attempts.

I fear that's exactly what it has done. You're seeing election denial in a bunch of Republicans running for office this cycle. The longer current Republicans continue to go along with this for fear of losing voters, the more dangerous this becomes.

It's possible that January 6 was simply a trial run for the next time. It's frightening to think there is a real chance the GOP regains control of Congress in November.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1551601534990958592

Good solution by the judge to remove any potential conflict of interest.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The D's want an indictment before the EDay and they should get one but it's clear since Mueller probe that DOJ is mostly out to get as well as NY Trump acquaintance like Cohen, Mansfield, and Bannon, they haven't laid a hand on Trump himself


Kari Lake said the DOJ won't lay a hand on him because Trump is Superman, he maybe invulnerable to prosecution but the R brand name has been damaged as I said it's a 303 map

But, of course D's want Trump prosecuted before the Election they want a sure thing so they can save the H, we are gonna keep the Senate anyways

If the DOJ does get an indictment the Select Committee isn't going after Pelosi, Trump already said he is gonna use Pelosi in the criminal trial that maybe pause for the DOJ hesitant about Prosecution, Trump does have GA to worry about too

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

The D's want an indictment before the EDay and they should get one but it's clear since Mueller probe that DOJ is mostly out to get as well as NY Trump acquaintance like Cohen, Mansfield, and Bannon, they haven't laid a hand on Trump himself


Kari Lake said the DOJ won't lay a hand on him because Trump is Superman, he maybe invulnerable to prosecution but the R brand name has been damaged as I said it's a 303 map

But, of course D's want Trump prosecuted before the Election they want a sure thing so they can save the H, we are gonna keep the Senate anyways

If Garland were to indict Trump, it won't be before the midterms because you potentially motivate the MAGA types to turn out in droves for GOP candidates even without Trump on the ballot. Trump will most certainly spin an indictment as a "witch hunt" by the "radical left."

The best chances the Democrats have to hold onto any chamber of Congress is for MAGA types to stay home with Trump not on the ballot. However, Republicans tend to turnout better in midterms than Democrats.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/LarrySabato/status/1551569269485346816

[emailking]

Marc Short, COS to Pence, recently appeared before a DC grand jury. That's big.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Marc Short, COS to Pence, recently appeared before a DC grand jury. That's big.

https://twitter.com/sgurman/status/1551677437603454976

[GeorgiaModerate]

Federal judge denies motion to quash subpoena, orders Rep. Jody Hice to appear before Fulton County special grand jury

[Judge Leigh Martin May] directed attorneys for Hice and the Fulton County District Attorney’s office, which is advising the grand jury, to develop a framework for questions that can be posed to the congressman. Hice could still object to those questions and come back for a ruling from May, the judge said.
...
May said she’d even be willing to stand outside the grand jury room where Hice was being questioned and confer with the Republican every time there’s an issue over a subject, though she acknowledged it would be an inconvenient last resort.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1551702054623514624

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1551702054623514624

The irony in a Twitter handle referencing the Trump investigation that refused to investigate Trump telling us to calm down is something.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Kinzinger definitely had a great speech at the end.

I wish more Republicans had courage to stand up to what they know is wrong. I wish the American people weren't engaged in party tribalism. I hope Trump's attempted coup has not opened the door for future attempts.

I fear that's exactly what it has done. You're seeing election denial in a bunch of Republicans running for office this cycle. The longer current Republicans continue to go along with this for fear of losing voters, the more dangerous this becomes.

It's possible that January 6 was simply a trial run for the next time. It's frightening to think there is a real chance the GOP regains control of Congress in November.

Well, that's why anyone who thought after January 6 that the party would ditch their support of the Big Lie was completely naive. Even if they know it's bulls***, it gives them a great opportunity to simultaneously keep their base angry and for them to have the "legitimacy" to subvert the republic either through voter suppression or outright refusing to accept election results. It's what they've always wanted. They can win power without ever having to go through the arduous effort of changing their ways.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-tells-florida-crowd-theres-152839910.html

Criminal indictment means Prosecuted, not convicted and DOJ is being very careful because this Committee hasn't focused on Pelosi part of Security, it's one sided because of Liz Cheney, I would of wanted to know why Pelosi was in charge of Capitol security and didn't do her job, even as a partisan Democrat.

But, it's clear the D's want an indictment now because they want to save the H but we have sat on this info since Jan 2021


In addition to the fact it was a tragedy that our Police were in harms way, it wasn't a 911 event just like Benghazi 5 people died if masses got slaughtered it would of been more impactful

[Sir Mohamed]

Do we have any word when DoJ will make a final decision about Trump? When will we know whether he'll be indicted or not? Really growing impatient with Garland.

[Ferguson97]

Do we have any word when DoJ will make a final decision about Trump? When will we know whether he'll be indicted or not? Really growing impatient with Garland.

I mean I don't think they're just going to announce "we will indict Trump in the future" or "we will not indict Trump in the future", they'll just do it or they won't.

[emailking]

Do we have any word when DoJ will make a final decision about Trump? When will we know whether he'll be indicted or not? Really growing impatient with Garland.

It would probably happen next year. It's not going to happen until after the mid terms. If it's 2024 and it hasn't happened, it's probably not going to.  There likely won't be any advanced notice, even leaks. We'll just find out he's been indicted. However, we may get a clue something is afoot by grand jury appearances. Pence's COS testifying is big and I think is an indication they've clearly moved beyond just the rioters and the far right groups. They're looking at the higher ups now.

[emailking]

Garland in upcoming Lester Holt interview.

Says everyone and anyone criminally responsible the events surrounding Jan 6 or any attempt to interfere with the lawful transfer of power from one administration to another, will be held accountable.

Asked if Trump announcing he's running affects any of that, he repeats the same thing.

[NewYorkExpress]

https://twitter.com/RepElaineLuria/status/1551568001836670976

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/rickklein/status/1551964788711907329

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1551985171737591809

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[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/January6thCmte/status/1552041350941532168