PA-SN 2022 megathread: Shrek vs. The Wizard of Oz
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« Reply #5175 on: October 25, 2022, 07:44:05 PM »

Oz saying he would support Trump in 2024 isn't going to play well with the Trump-Biden voters that he needs to win.

Is there anyone voting who doubts that he would if he wins the nomination lol
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« Reply #5176 on: October 25, 2022, 07:44:06 PM »

Oz saying he would support Trump in 2024 isn't going to play well with the Trump-Biden voters that he needs to win.
He worded it the best way he could, but yeah, it probably will hurt him. Marginally...
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« Reply #5177 on: October 25, 2022, 07:44:30 PM »

MAGA Republicans be like “hmmm I support the idea of a black person being held at gunpoint but not when that guy does it”
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« Reply #5178 on: October 25, 2022, 07:44:33 PM »

I’m done with this board

Every single moderate, fair person I follow on Twitter is in agreement that fetterman sounds awful

The partisanship required to defend this performance is off the charts

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

That's a Fetterman Win!
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« Reply #5179 on: October 25, 2022, 07:46:04 PM »

Oz using the Social Security question to tie in the fact he's a doctor. That's a decent thing to do from a strategic POV.
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« Reply #5180 on: October 25, 2022, 07:46:11 PM »

Lmao another awkward silence brain freeze
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« Reply #5181 on: October 25, 2022, 07:46:55 PM »

All I’ll say is I’d be a lot more worried if anyone else had been the GOP nominee.
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« Reply #5182 on: October 25, 2022, 07:47:14 PM »

Oz talked about preventative care to avoid even greater cost. Like the sentiment, wish there was more beef and specifics though.
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« Reply #5183 on: October 25, 2022, 07:47:23 PM »

Lmao another awkward silence brain freeze

I thought you were leaving?
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« Reply #5184 on: October 25, 2022, 07:47:33 PM »

If the media wants to crucify Fetterman for the unchosen 'crime' of having a stroke, time to go nuclear on Oz for his unchosen heritage and past fidelity to a foreign government in a part of the world that Americans distrust!

The Turk will be thwarted on the banks of the Delaware, aided by winged Polish-American retirees from the coalfields of western PA.
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« Reply #5185 on: October 25, 2022, 07:47:54 PM »

Lmao another awkward silence brain freeze

He’s clearly reading the screens. Why is it so outrageous for Fetterman to read the question before answering?
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« Reply #5186 on: October 25, 2022, 07:48:39 PM »

Oz just took the populist line against student loan forgiveness, great approach.


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« Reply #5187 on: October 25, 2022, 07:48:56 PM »

I’m done with this board

Every single moderate, fair person I follow on Twitter is in agreement that fetterman sounds awful

The partisanship required to defend this performance is off the charts

The contrast between this forum and Twitter, or between this forum and elsewhere, is certainly jarring. But the Fetterman-Oz race certainly shows me the depths to which partisans can descend. Just as with Walker, Fetterman has his devoted supporters who would literally crawl over broken glass to vote for him. They would do so even if he were comatose and on a hospital bed, hooked to life support. If it weren't for Oz being so odious and repellent in his own right, this race wouldn't be as close.
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« Reply #5188 on: October 25, 2022, 07:49:09 PM »

Oz is decimating Fetterman.

Gotta hand it to Republicans. Reagan, Arnold, Trump, Oz. They love entertainers and they're great on camera.
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« Reply #5189 on: October 25, 2022, 07:49:32 PM »

All I’ll say is I’d be a lot more worried if anyone else had been the GOP nominee.

And if Fetterman hadn’t had his stroke, he would be wiping the floor with Oz on the actual issues. Optics alone make this look closer than it actually is.
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« Reply #5190 on: October 25, 2022, 07:49:53 PM »

I’m done with this board

Every single moderate, fair person I follow on Twitter is in agreement that fetterman sounds awful

The partisanship required to defend this performance is off the charts
*follows a bunch of hack libs on Twitter and is watching the debate through Acyn clips that probably have parts cut out*

"Fetterman is doing great!!!"

This is is what some of y'all on here sound like.

And no, I did not think Walker did well in his debate.
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« Reply #5191 on: October 25, 2022, 07:50:14 PM »

Oz is decimating Fetterman.

Gotta hand it to Republicans. Reagan, Arnold, Trump, Oz. They love entertainers and they're great on camera.

Might as well just switch to the blue avatar
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« Reply #5192 on: October 25, 2022, 07:51:10 PM »

On cost of higher education
Fetterman: Just make it affordable
Oz: Cut the extra staff and offer more online options.
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« Reply #5193 on: October 25, 2022, 07:51:35 PM »

"Apparently I wasn't clear enough for you to understand this."

Oz is stunningly lacking in self-awareness.
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« Reply #5194 on: October 25, 2022, 07:52:19 PM »

Yeah I'm watching the debate and trying to be as objective as possible, both comes across badly for their own reasons.

Oz himself has a repellant character and seems to be reading off right wing talking points which have kinda gotten old.

Fetterman having speech issues makes him less clear and direct and I think can give people the impression he just doesn't know what he is talking about.
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« Reply #5195 on: October 25, 2022, 07:53:14 PM »

Oz's abortion comment is all over Twitter right more, way more than any of Fetterman's issues.
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« Reply #5196 on: October 25, 2022, 07:53:19 PM »

Yeah, from what I've seen Oz is sounding bad in a different way.
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« Reply #5197 on: October 25, 2022, 07:53:20 PM »

Fetterman coming down hard against court packing. Good answer.
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« Reply #5198 on: October 25, 2022, 07:53:28 PM »

It also seems like out of this debate there will be at least a few soundbites on both sides that could be used in ads in the closing weeks
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« Reply #5199 on: October 25, 2022, 07:53:36 PM »

I’m done with this board

Every single moderate, fair person I follow on Twitter is in agreement that fetterman sounds awful

The partisanship required to defend this performance is off the charts
*follows a bunch of hack libs on Twitter and is watching the debate through Acyn clips that probably have parts cut out*

"Fetterman is doing great!!!"

This is is what some of y'all on here sound like.

And no, I did not think Walker did well in his debate.

As I said above, many progressive and liberal Democratic users on Twitter are categorically saying that Fetterman is performing poorly, and some are even questioning why his campaign agreed to debate. They're not necessarily praising Oz. But the consensus on both left and right seems to be that Oz is winning this debate.
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