The BlueSwan Basement of Absurd & Ignorant Posts VIII

[Coastal Elitist]

Republicans in California are like wild animals. You can find them now only in deserts, mountains, and forests.

[Coastal Elitist]

Republicans in California are like wild animals. You can find them now only in deserts, mountains, and forests.

What's wrong with that post? It's humorously accurate.

It's not anywhere close to being true. Even though we are outnumbered you can still find us in the suburbs.

[Coastal Elitist]

Republicans in California are like wild animals. You can find them now only in deserts, mountains, and forests.

What's wrong with that post? It's humorously accurate.

It's not anywhere close to being true. Even though we are outnumbered you can still find us in the suburbs.

Lol, the CAGOP just got brutally burbstomped in Orange County and you still seriously believe Republicans are strong there?

Learn how to read stupid. When I did stay strong. Also I didn't even say Orange County either. I wouldn't call losing close elections brutally burbstomed. Take CA-48, if Rohrabacher had retired CA-48 wouldn't have flipped. According to the OC precinct map there were quite a few Cox/Rouda precincts. That's a district most likely to flip back in 2020.

[Coastal Elitist]

Any argument that considers states as meaningful and independent entities is still colossally stupid. We're at a point with mass communication, mass culture, nationalized politics, etc. that there's no reason to consider states as truly independent collections of constituencies rather than some arbitrarily binned groupings of people. Put another way: we're at a point where most states have a large amount of variance within their constituencies, to the point that the differences among states are becoming meaningless so long as you know a person's education level, race, and gender. There isn't much difference in the political leanings or the between Rock Island, Illinois and Davenport Iowa, or between Fairfax County, VA and Prince George's County, MD, between Wendover, Nevada and West Wendover, Utah, etc. But the current representation system we have treats ridiculously them as totally separate political entities. So, any type of system which tries to do some fair weighting of "states" as if they had some sort of meaningful political identity is trying to weight something which isn't well defined enough to be meaningful. Keeping a system of political representation which is based on trying to balance out some weird political variables that don't really exist is horrible and indefensible when it creates massive inequalities in other ways, e.g., giving the 40 million people of California as much political representation in a major body of Congress as a state that's almost 1/80th its size.

I don't really care about the Connecticut Compromise. It's a product of a bygone era with incredibly different political needs and realities, and its mere existence isn't a sufficient argument for why it should continue to be followed. It's telling that all arguments in favor of incredibly biased systems of proportionment are justified by arguments that are ultimately "this is the way it is", or "this is the way it was", without ever giving an argument for why that is right or desirable.

Basically this and everything Solid and AndyHogan have said in this thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=308408.msg6570518#new

[Coastal Elitist]

Any argument that considers states as meaningful and independent entities is still colossally stupid. We're at a point with mass communication, mass culture, nationalized politics, etc. that there's no reason to consider states as truly independent collections of constituencies rather than some arbitrarily binned groupings of people. Put another way: we're at a point where most states have a large amount of variance within their constituencies, to the point that the differences among states are becoming meaningless so long as you know a person's education level, race, and gender. There isn't much difference in the political leanings or the between Rock Island, Illinois and Davenport Iowa, or between Fairfax County, VA and Prince George's County, MD, between Wendover, Nevada and West Wendover, Utah, etc. But the current representation system we have treats ridiculously them as totally separate political entities. So, any type of system which tries to do some fair weighting of "states" as if they had some sort of meaningful political identity is trying to weight something which isn't well defined enough to be meaningful. Keeping a system of political representation which is based on trying to balance out some weird political variables that don't really exist is horrible and indefensible when it creates massive inequalities in other ways, e.g., giving the 40 million people of California as much political representation in a major body of Congress as a state that's almost 1/80th its size.

I don't really care about the Connecticut Compromise. It's a product of a bygone era with incredibly different political needs and realities, and its mere existence isn't a sufficient argument for why it should continue to be followed. It's telling that all arguments in favor of incredibly biased systems of proportionment are justified by arguments that are ultimately "this is the way it is", or "this is the way it was", without ever giving an argument for why that is right or desirable.

Basically this and everything Solid and AndyHogan have said in this thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=308408.msg6570518#new

Damnit! You found and exploited my debating weak point - passive-aggressively quoting me in the bad-posts thread without addressing any of my arguments. This has always been my rhetorical Achilles heel - it's why I was no good in my high school debate club.

Your argument about the states is quite absurd. New York is not the same as California and Georgia is not the same as Texas. There is still very much a state identity for each state. Also assuming certain groups are going to vote the same way for the rest of history is absurd. If you look at history you can see that different groups have voted differently over time and I fully expect that to continue. I'm 100% sure that the Democrats will win back the senate at some point. If you look at the current trends you're favored to win the Senate back over time.

[Coastal Elitist]

Spanking should be a criminal offense.

I'm sorry, but in world is that absurd or ignorant?

Intell thinks it absurd that child abuse should be illegal.

It’s because Intell wants to return to a world where working class union white men go home and beat their kids with a black belt and then go to rape their wife.

Audman don't be ridiculous. No one is suggesting that you go home and beat your kids everyday. Some form of spanking for certain behaviors is not child abuse. There's a right way and a wrong way to do it.

[Coastal Elitist]

They’d still be demanding that he resign (and I certainly would), you guys don’t seem to understand that the condemnation of Northam is coming from a genuine place in contrast to the Republican condemnations of Steve King whose racism was apparently fine by the GOP until he used the term “white supremicist.”  Just because the Republican party happily gives Trump a free pass on being a racist, misogynistic bigot who pals around with anti-Semites like Steve Bannon doesn’t mean that no one on the Democratic side talks like a preacher b/c they go to church every Sunday with respect to these sorts of issues.  This thread honestly reads like OP twisting himself in knots and grasping at straws to find some sort of “Democrats are the real hypocrites angle here.”  And speaking of hypocrisy, where was the Virginia Republican Party’s concern about racism when Corey Stewart was nominated for Senate last year?

This is in context to if democrats would demand Northam's resignation if the Lt. Gov was a Republican

[Coastal Elitist]

They’d still be demanding that he resign (and I certainly would), you guys don’t seem to understand that the condemnation of Northam is coming from a genuine place in contrast to the Republican condemnations of Steve King whose racism was apparently fine by the GOP until he used the term “white supremicist.”  Just because the Republican party happily gives Trump a free pass on being a racist, misogynistic bigot who pals around with anti-Semites like Steve Bannon doesn’t mean that no one on the Democratic side talks like a preacher b/c they go to church every Sunday with respect to these sorts of issues.  This thread honestly reads like OP twisting himself in knots and grasping at straws to find some sort of “Democrats are the real hypocrites angle here.”  And speaking of hypocrisy, where was the Virginia Republican Party’s concern about racism when Corey Stewart was nominated for Senate last year?

This is in context to if democrats would demand Northam's resignation if the Lt. Gov was a Republican

We stated the truth. We're not Republicans.

You're naive if you think any party would give up power to the opposition because of a situation like this

[Coastal Elitist]

If you are going to be a legal adult before the winners of the next election are set to take office, you should be able to vote in the current election.

In other words, if an election is going to have an effect on ongoing political situations at points in time when you are a legal adult, you ought to have a say in the process.

The minimum voting age should be about 11 and 5/6ths based on this and the fact that the US Senate uses 6 year terms that start about 2 months after the election, and that office is the office with the longest terms.

[Coastal Elitist]

I can not speak for all Democrats but I certainly want to see a recession that delivers a serious electoral penalty to Republicans in 2020.

Its like the trolley car problem; a recession would kill thousands; Republican Party control over Policy kills millions.

I don't know why this thread isn't named after Solid because he says something absurd and ignorant at least once every few days.

[Coastal Elitist]

I don't know why this thread isn't named after Solid because he says something absurd and ignorant at least once every few days.

Because it's a liberal skewed forum, they would much rather throw a conservative under the bus.

There's literally another thread named after Solid. Try again.

I really don't see the difference between that one and this one. They should be merged

[Coastal Elitist]

Not surprising. Any authoritarian organization or institution (especially those dominated by males) that insists on obedience, isn't subject to independent oversight and permits ample access to children is going to be filled with perverts.

Acting like this problem is just confined to certain organizations as described above is absurd.

Shut it down. I don't know why this dinosaur is still running amok on young boys' lives. 

[Coastal Elitist]

It's funny how much of an overlap there is between the people who want to stick a recently born Salvadoran infant in a cage in the desert because "THEY CAN'T STAY HERE, THE COUNTRY'S COMPLETELY FULL!" and the people who apparently think there's more than enough room to flood the country with unwanted, often severely disabled children whose parents are too poor or too unhealthy to raise them.

Insinuating that most abortions are of are babies that will be severely disabled, instead of just adults who don't want parenting responsibilities.

[Coastal Elitist]

So how does a party like this win anything? They don't deserve to.

I know how they win...they cheat and bully their way through.

I can't imagine why any female or nonwhite would want to consider themselves a Republican unless they consider themselves subhuman and non-deserving of better.

[Coastal Elitist]

If you willingly - and not under any pressure to do so - help ISIS find shelter, ammunition and provisions, you are aiding and abetting a terrorist organization.

The NRA is assisting mass shooters in finding mass murder tools, and constantly fighting against any regulation whatsoever. If American public opinion was more pro-gun, the NRA would be advocating for bazookas and fully automatic rapid fire machine gun turrets for home security systems. Don't try to deny that the NRA actively encourages use of desdly weapons by as many Americans as possible, even those ill-suited to own a tool of death.

Basically he's comparing the NRA to someone who would help ISIS which is absurd and so is the bolded text.

[Coastal Elitist]

I'll never understand why anyone who has the means to do otherwise would want to live in a city. Urban environments are suffocating tar pits which require incredible amounts of work to claw out of. I live in one now (because I have no other choice), and it's just the worst. Driving and parking are nightmares and taking public transportation is incredibly limiting, stressful, and unpredictable. Everything is tiny, cramped, and claustrophobic. You can't see half the sky most of the time. There's constant noise, whether it's sirens, helicopters, people yelling, or macho jerks gunning their cars down the boulevard. Nothing is designed for families. Everything smells. Everyone's stressed and angry all the time. Plus cost of living is so high, doing 90% of the things people claim they love to do in the city is just not feasible.

I can't move to the suburbs fast enough.

the simple truths thread is that way

[Coastal Elitist]

A series of tapes could come out tomorrow showing Trump with different non-white sex-trafficked women, all engaging with Trump sexually while wearing Hillary Clinton masks and while Trump calls them the worst and most hurtful racial slurs that exist.

When those tapes hits the air, you can comfortably bet your life's savings that 95%+ of Republicans will refuse to harshly criticize Trump "because abortion" and "because socialism".

[Coastal Elitist]

What Trump did today is despicable and I hope all true Republicans who live and breath Conservative Principles® in safe red states will get together and send a message to the Republican party (which we all know was a totally normal party until Trump came along) by voting third party or writing in the name of an equally corrupt Republican politician who isnt do brazen in public about it

No. 95+percent of republicans and conservatives will accept this, and ALL the many MANY such fu$!ups by Trump as either "Great news (but of course the liberal media...."), or alternatively see it as a completely acceptable price to pay to stop socialism and baby killing.

A series of tapes could come out tomorrow showing Trump with different non-white sex-trafficked women, all engaging with Trump sexually while wearing Hillary Clinton masks and while Trump calls them the worst and most hurtful racial slurs that exist.

When those tapes hits the air, you can comfortably bet your life's savings that 95%+ of Republicans will refuse to harshly criticize Trump "because abortion" and "because socialism".

You posting that in this thread is more absurd and ignorant than the actual post you quoted, it is obvious Trump can get away with almost anything, he has already gotten away with ridiculously awful stuff, and Republicans will continue to disregard their supposedly sacred principles and bend over backwards to defend his obviously indefensible behavior.

The scenario he laid out is absurd and so is this one. Also I thought Trump was racist so why would he be fornicating with non whites.

I’m well aware that the Senate will never remove him (even if he committed genocide), but I’m eager for a forced up down vote just to watch Collins suffer

[Coastal Elitist]

scary stuff

I'm in favor of terrorism charges from this point on for anybody who violates the stay at home orders. These cancers on humanity are going to end up killing people who don't actually have the option of staying home.