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« Reply #50 on: October 07, 2019, 02:45:33 PM »

Seeing reports on Twitter, that the first strikes on Kurdish areas have occurred. Nothing yet from American media sources.

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« Reply #51 on: October 07, 2019, 02:54:52 PM »

Seeing reports on Twitter, that the first strikes on Kurdish areas have occurred. Nothing yet from American media sources.



Yep, while I do support the Kurds, Erdogan is going to crush them like an egg.
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« Reply #52 on: October 07, 2019, 03:04:50 PM »

Why has no one shared the Wise one's tweet?



And stop worrying guys, Russia will be the grown-up and solve the situation, America is tired and needs to lay down for a bit.
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« Reply #53 on: October 07, 2019, 03:08:54 PM »

Why has no one shared the Wise one's tweet?


And stop worrying guys, Russia will be the grown-up and solve the situation, America is tired and needs to lay down for a bit.


We've talked about it in the Crazy Trump Tweets thread.
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« Reply #54 on: October 07, 2019, 03:12:23 PM »

The U.S. foreign policy continues to be completely untrustworthy. And it began way before the orange man.
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« Reply #55 on: October 07, 2019, 03:13:24 PM »

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« Reply #56 on: October 07, 2019, 03:15:41 PM »

The U.S. foreign policy continues to be completely untrustworthy. And it began way before the orange man.

I agree, at least now, things are more unpredictable and exciting for us watching, whereas before it was the same slimy sh**t, just without the funny theatrics.

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« Reply #57 on: October 07, 2019, 03:24:05 PM »



Also, today is Putin's birthday.
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« Reply #58 on: October 07, 2019, 03:42:33 PM »

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« Reply #59 on: October 07, 2019, 03:45:49 PM »

Exclusive: Official Who Heard Call Says Trump Got 'Rolled' By Turkey and 'Has No Spine'
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Donald Trump got "rolled" by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, a National Security Council source with direct knowledge of the discussions told Newsweek.

In a scheduled phone call on Sunday afternoon between President Trump and President Erdogan, Trump said he would withdraw U.S. forces from northern Syria. The phone call was scheduled after Turkey announced it was planning to invade Syria, and hours after Erdogan reinforced his army units at the Syrian-Turkish border and issued his strongest threat to launch a military incursion, according to the National Security Council official to whom Newsweek spoke on condition of anonymity.

The U.S. withdrawal plays into the hands of the Islamic State group, Damascus and Moscow, and the announcement left Trump's own Defense Department "completely stunned," said Pentagon officials. Turkey, like the United States, wants regime change in Syria. Russia and Iran support the Assad regime.

"President Trump was definitely out-negotiated and only endorsed the troop withdraw to make it look like we are getting something—but we are not getting something," the National Security Council source told Newsweek. "The U.S. national security has entered a state of increased danger for decades to come because the president has no spine and that's the bottom line."
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« Reply #60 on: October 07, 2019, 04:06:01 PM »

What Trump did today is despicable and I hope all true Republicans who live and breath Conservative Principles® in safe red states will get together and send a message to the Republican party (which we all know was a totally normal party until Trump came along) by voting third party or writing in the name of an equally corrupt Republican politician who isnt do brazen in public about it
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« Reply #61 on: October 07, 2019, 04:47:02 PM »

 Republicans went crazy about Obama's "red line" comment but now we have Trump who gives the green light to attack allies who fought with America against a great evil.
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« Reply #62 on: October 07, 2019, 05:15:10 PM »

Excellent move.   Trump should have moved out of Syria earlier.  Hopefully Afghanistan is next.
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« Reply #63 on: October 07, 2019, 05:25:10 PM »

Excellent move.   Trump should have moved out of Syria earlier.  Hopefully Afghanistan is next.

Won't happen until the Russians are ready and Mr. Trump has a dictator giving him America's marching orders.
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« Reply #64 on: October 07, 2019, 06:34:34 PM »

Excellent move.   Trump should have moved out of Syria earlier.  Hopefully Afghanistan is next.
Do you really not think that he should have, you know, told our military first? Does that not make it a bit less of an “excellent move”?
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« Reply #65 on: October 07, 2019, 07:19:33 PM »

Had he declare war on Syria and turkey if they didn’t give Kurds their freedom u be calls out trump.
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« Reply #66 on: October 07, 2019, 07:20:30 PM »

Ask the Armenians how the Turks treat minorities they don't like.
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« Reply #67 on: October 07, 2019, 07:24:34 PM »

The U.S. foreign policy continues to be completely untrustworthy. And it began way before the orange man.

Though there might be some truth to that, it was in no way as incompetent and "untrustworthy" as it is under the Orange Buffoon.
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« Reply #68 on: October 07, 2019, 07:35:28 PM »
« Edited: October 07, 2019, 10:48:28 PM by Crumpets »

Excellent move.   Trump should have moved out of Syria earlier.  Hopefully Afghanistan is next.

This move feeds directly into ISIL's campaign to rebuild its caliphate. This all but guarantees we will be back in five years, with the humanitarian situation all the worse and with no ground partner to help us out.
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« Reply #69 on: October 07, 2019, 08:09:46 PM »

It seems that Trump has lacked any sort of a coherent foreign policy outside of selling out on all of our allies.

From our EU partners to Ukraine to the Kurds, why would anyone ally with us anymore?
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« Reply #70 on: October 07, 2019, 08:16:25 PM »



Wow what a heartless and ignorant statement

These people helped us defeat Isis and now you and Trump are ok with letting the Turkish massacre them. Its moments like this that make it clear to me why I could never support Trump or his agenda.
Trump and a l lot of his supporter are truly horrible people.

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« Reply #71 on: October 07, 2019, 09:03:42 PM »

Ask the Armenians how the Turks treat minorities they don't like.

I'm Armenian and I approve this message.
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« Reply #72 on: October 07, 2019, 10:21:15 PM »

Excellent move.   Trump should have moved out of Syria earlier.  Hopefully Afghanistan is next.
Do you really not think that he should have, you know, told our military first? Does that not make it a bit less of an “excellent move”?

It's jaichind. If he has any qualms about this, they probably just amount to wistfulness that letting Erdogan slaughter them commies will only enrich Trump personally rather than the whole American upper class.
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« Reply #73 on: October 07, 2019, 10:23:59 PM »

The thing about the "NATO ally>communist insurgents" talking point is that, yes, the Kurds are pinkos or whatever to an extent that makes even me a little uncomfortable, but they're also 1. the closest thing to a democratic polity in the Middle East other than Israel and 2. the faction that fought and died to break the back of the territorial caliphate while Erdogan sat clucking his tongue and twiddling his thumbs until like the last year or two. Turkey, meanwhile, is an increasingly despotic country that should never have been allowed into NATO in the first place, and if NATO actually saw itself as the nucleus of a John McCain "concert of democracies" rather than a mere instrument of US hard power projection, it would give Erdogan a good thrashing and send him packing.

For years before and after 1948 many conservatives were against a State of Israel because Zionism was at least partially a Marxist philisophy and, after 1948, Israel was "socialist".  But as soon as Menachem Begin defeated the Labor Party in the late 1970's Israel suddenly had all sorts of admirers on the American right it didn't have before.

And South African apartheidists (is that even a word? I dunno) claimed for decades that they weren't anti-black, they were just "anti-Communist", and almost all the black South Africans just happened to be communists.  It was a coincidence.  This socialist label is just an excuse to support oppression.  Based on Trump's "love" affair with Kim of North Korea, the GOP despises socialism not because it is too far let, but because it is not far left enough.
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« Reply #74 on: October 07, 2019, 10:47:22 PM »

It's 4-D chess guys and gals. Take a chill pill and relax.
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