NY: Trump on Trial!

[BG-NY]

Top minds of Atlas

This story died off quick as can be. 

Might’ve been a fundraising ploy. Doesn’t seem this is happening.

Just as I suspect. Trump will never be arrested. He’ll never be charged. It’s been fantasy talk since 2016

The grand jury keeps getting more an more incompetent, yet an indictment is supposed to "hurt" him.

Don't get your hopes up for next week either.

If I had to bet money, I don't think Trump will be indicted. I'll believe it when I see it. Its been 8 years of investigations.

I was wrong, I'm surprised Bragg decided to end Dems' 2024 hopes by indicting Trump for paying off a porn star.

The problem with that logic is that it's unethical to not indict someone whether or not the political ramifications are good or bad. That said no indictment has ever been good for a campaign and Trump was already facing a repeat of 2020 as it was.

Ethics aren't the issue here, it's that the case is weak. Bringing a case that doesn't have a high likelihood of success just helps to drive division in this country. If Trump is found guilty, that's something else entirely, but nobody has that expectation

2020 was settled by <45k votes. That's nearly a coinflip. You run that election 100x, Trump wins at least 40.

[TarHeelDem]

Top minds of Atlas

This story died off quick as can be. 

Might’ve been a fundraising ploy. Doesn’t seem this is happening.

Just as I suspect. Trump will never be arrested. He’ll never be charged. It’s been fantasy talk since 2016

The grand jury keeps getting more an more incompetent, yet an indictment is supposed to "hurt" him.

Don't get your hopes up for next week either.

If I had to bet money, I don't think Trump will be indicted. I'll believe it when I see it. Its been 8 years of investigations.

I'll admit, I was wrong. Holy cow was I wrong. I still don't think Trump will ever see the inside of a cell but maybe I'm wrong again.

You will be - but that's okay. Hope you come around!

[Splash]

https://twitter.com/gabegutierrez/status/1641609072280567812

[BG-NY]

Top minds of Atlas

This story died off quick as can be. 

Might’ve been a fundraising ploy. Doesn’t seem this is happening.

Just as I suspect. Trump will never be arrested. He’ll never be charged. It’s been fantasy talk since 2016

The grand jury keeps getting more an more incompetent, yet an indictment is supposed to "hurt" him.

Don't get your hopes up for next week either.

If I had to bet money, I don't think Trump will be indicted. I'll believe it when I see it. Its been 8 years of investigations.

I was wrong, I'm surprised Bragg decided to end Dems' 2024 hopes by indicting Trump for paying off a porn star.

Yeah, so many people were eager to vote for Biden and now they're going to vote for Trump because he's been indicted in a criminal investigation, and for no other reason. They're big fans of Biden's policies but they just can't bear to deny the Republican under indictment their vote. I know that this forum attracts a lot of bottom-of-the-barrel commentary, but can you not comprehend how out of touch with reality your posts are?

Stick to calling politicians fat. Prognostication is clearly not in your wheelhouse.

[emailking]

Trump:

They only brought this Fake, Corrupt, and Disgraceful Charge against me because I stand with the American People, and they know that I cannot get a fair trial in New York!

These Corrupt Democrat Prosecutors, all from poorly run and very dangerous Democrat run cities, are not going to choose the Republican Nominee, or the next President of the United States!

[soundchaser]

Trump:

They only brought this Fake, Corrupt, and Disgraceful Charge against me because I stand with the American People, and they know that I cannot get a fair trial in New York!

These Corrupt Democrat Prosecutors, all from poorly run and very dangerous Democrat run cities, are not going to choose the Republican Nominee, or the next President of the United States!

Well, maybe he'll get a fair trial in Georgia.

[Damocles]

Looks like cocktail shrimp and champagne are on the menu tonight, boys! 🥂 🍾 🦐

[ProudModerate2]

https://twitter.com/gabegutierrez/status/1641609072280567812

They should have him enter through the main lobby/doors, and in handcuffs.

[Pres Mike]

Top minds of Atlas

This story died off quick as can be. 

Might’ve been a fundraising ploy. Doesn’t seem this is happening.

Just as I suspect. Trump will never be arrested. He’ll never be charged. It’s been fantasy talk since 2016

The grand jury keeps getting more an more incompetent, yet an indictment is supposed to "hurt" him.

Don't get your hopes up for next week either.

If I had to bet money, I don't think Trump will be indicted. I'll believe it when I see it. Its been 8 years of investigations.

I'll admit, I was wrong. Holy cow was I wrong. I still don't think Trump will ever see the inside of a cell but maybe I'm wrong again.

You will be - but that's okay. Hope you come around!

According to every news source (politico, CNN, MSNBC) Trump will turn himself in. He'll have his mugshot taken and go before a judge. Since its a non violent white collar crime, he'll be released until the trial. He doesnt even need to pay a bond since its New York

[Alben Barkley]

Top minds of Atlas

This story died off quick as can be. 

Might’ve been a fundraising ploy. Doesn’t seem this is happening.

Just as I suspect. Trump will never be arrested. He’ll never be charged. It’s been fantasy talk since 2016

The grand jury keeps getting more an more incompetent, yet an indictment is supposed to "hurt" him.

Don't get your hopes up for next week either.

If I had to bet money, I don't think Trump will be indicted. I'll believe it when I see it. Its been 8 years of investigations.

I was wrong, I'm surprised Bragg decided to end Dems' 2024 hopes by indicting Trump for paying off a porn star.

Yeah, so many people were eager to vote for Biden and now they're going to vote for Trump because he's been indicted in a criminal investigation, and for no other reason. They're big fans of Biden's policies but they just can't bear to deny the Republican under indictment their vote. I know that this forum attracts a lot of bottom-of-the-barrel commentary, but can you not comprehend how out of touch with reality your posts are?

Stick to calling politicians fat. Prognostication is clearly not in your wheelhouse.

This coming from someone who can’t “prognosticate” any negative effects of the US withdrawing from the world.

[Horus]

Top minds of Atlas

This story died off quick as can be.  

Might’ve been a fundraising ploy. Doesn’t seem this is happening.

Just as I suspect. Trump will never be arrested. He’ll never be charged. It’s been fantasy talk since 2016

The grand jury keeps getting more an more incompetent, yet an indictment is supposed to "hurt" him.

Don't get your hopes up for next week either.

If I had to bet money, I don't think Trump will be indicted. I'll believe it when I see it. Its been 8 years of investigations.

I was wrong, I'm surprised Bragg decided to end Dems' 2024 hopes by indicting Trump for paying off a porn star.

Yeah, so many people were eager to vote for Biden and now they're going to vote for Trump because he's been indicted in a criminal investigation, and for no other reason. They're big fans of Biden's policies but they just can't bear to deny the Republican under indictment their vote. I know that this forum attracts a lot of bottom-of-the-barrel commentary, but can you not comprehend how out of touch with reality your posts are?

Stick to calling politicians fat. Prognostication is clearly not in your wheelhouse.

This coming from someone who can’t “prognosticate” any negative effects of the US withdrawing from the world.

I thought BG was a full blown isolationist but now that Trump wants to invade Mexico he's all in. Thought he was more capable of holding to his principles but devotion to Trump must come first I guess.

[BG-NY]

This coming from someone who can’t “prognosticate” any negative effects for US citizens of the US withdrawing from the world.

FTFY

[BG-NY]

.

That said, I do appreciate you keeping me honest here on the issue. But my opinion has always been to protect our borders, not people on the other side of the world. I don't think this is logically inconsistent.

[DrScholl]

Top minds of Atlas

This story died off quick as can be. 

Might’ve been a fundraising ploy. Doesn’t seem this is happening.

Just as I suspect. Trump will never be arrested. He’ll never be charged. It’s been fantasy talk since 2016

The grand jury keeps getting more an more incompetent, yet an indictment is supposed to "hurt" him.

Don't get your hopes up for next week either.

If I had to bet money, I don't think Trump will be indicted. I'll believe it when I see it. Its been 8 years of investigations.

I was wrong, I'm surprised Bragg decided to end Dems' 2024 hopes by indicting Trump for paying off a porn star.

The problem with that logic is that it's unethical to not indict someone whether or not the political ramifications are good or bad. That said no indictment has ever been good for a campaign and Trump was already facing a repeat of 2020 as it was.

Ethics aren't the issue here, it's that the case is weak. Bringing a case that doesn't have a high likelihood of success just helps to drive division in this country. If Trump is found guilty, that's something else entirely, but nobody has that expectation

2020 was settled by <45k votes. That's nearly a coinflip. You run that election 100x, Trump wins at least 40.

No one except his base is upset that he was indicted and he needs more his base to be elected. Just because you think that case is weak doesn't mean that it is. If it was weak it never would have been brought to a grand jury. No DA would push a case against a former President without it being solid.

[Blue3]

Maybe already reported here. But if not…

Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's office said it contacted Trump's attorney to "coordinate his surrender" on an indictment that "remains under seal." The former president is expected to turn himself in early next week, his attorney Joe Tacopina told NBC News. His arraignment is expected Tuesday.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/03/30/donald-trump-indictment-live-news-and-updates.html

[super6646]

Incredible. Hilarious after everything it’s stormy daniels that does trump in and forces him to potentially face accountability. POS

[BG-NY]

Top minds of Atlas

This story died off quick as can be. 

Might’ve been a fundraising ploy. Doesn’t seem this is happening.

Just as I suspect. Trump will never be arrested. He’ll never be charged. It’s been fantasy talk since 2016

The grand jury keeps getting more an more incompetent, yet an indictment is supposed to "hurt" him.

Don't get your hopes up for next week either.

If I had to bet money, I don't think Trump will be indicted. I'll believe it when I see it. Its been 8 years of investigations.

I was wrong, I'm surprised Bragg decided to end Dems' 2024 hopes by indicting Trump for paying off a porn star.

The problem with that logic is that it's unethical to not indict someone whether or not the political ramifications are good or bad. That said no indictment has ever been good for a campaign and Trump was already facing a repeat of 2020 as it was.

Ethics aren't the issue here, it's that the case is weak. Bringing a case that doesn't have a high likelihood of success just helps to drive division in this country. If Trump is found guilty, that's something else entirely, but nobody has that expectation

2020 was settled by <45k votes. That's nearly a coinflip. You run that election 100x, Trump wins at least 40.

No one except his base is upset that he was indicted and he needs more his base to be elected. Just because you think that case is weak doesn't mean that it is. If it was weak it never would have been brought to a grand jury. No DA would push a case against a former President without it being solid.

If zero people change their minds from 2020, and you just see an continuation of demographic trends, you have another tossup. If Trump and the GOP weren't morons who eschewed VBM 2020 might've gone the other way.

[TarHeelDem]

Top minds of Atlas

This story died off quick as can be. 

Might’ve been a fundraising ploy. Doesn’t seem this is happening.

Just as I suspect. Trump will never be arrested. He’ll never be charged. It’s been fantasy talk since 2016

The grand jury keeps getting more an more incompetent, yet an indictment is supposed to "hurt" him.

Don't get your hopes up for next week either.

If I had to bet money, I don't think Trump will be indicted. I'll believe it when I see it. Its been 8 years of investigations.

I'll admit, I was wrong. Holy cow was I wrong. I still don't think Trump will ever see the inside of a cell but maybe I'm wrong again.

You will be - but that's okay. Hope you come around!

According to every news source (politico, CNN, MSNBC) Trump will turn himself in. He'll have his mugshot taken and go before a judge. Since its a non violent white collar crime, he'll be released until the trial. He doesnt even need to pay a bond since its New York

Okay. All true. Is the implication here a prediction of acquittal on all counts? I don't think that's very likely.

[Pres Mike]

Top minds of Atlas

This story died off quick as can be. 

Might’ve been a fundraising ploy. Doesn’t seem this is happening.

Just as I suspect. Trump will never be arrested. He’ll never be charged. It’s been fantasy talk since 2016

The grand jury keeps getting more an more incompetent, yet an indictment is supposed to "hurt" him.

Don't get your hopes up for next week either.

If I had to bet money, I don't think Trump will be indicted. I'll believe it when I see it. Its been 8 years of investigations.

I'll admit, I was wrong. Holy cow was I wrong. I still don't think Trump will ever see the inside of a cell but maybe I'm wrong again.

You will be - but that's okay. Hope you come around!

According to every news source (politico, CNN, MSNBC) Trump will turn himself in. He'll have his mugshot taken and go before a judge. Since its a non violent white collar crime, he'll be released until the trial. He doesnt even need to pay a bond since its New York

Okay. All true. Is the implication here a prediction of acquittal on all counts? I don't think that's very likely.

There are a lot of unknowns. What is known is that Trump will drag out the trial. Considering all big trials can take 18 months or more, its unlikely to be settled before the 2024 election.

[Tekken_Guy]

Top minds of Atlas

This story died off quick as can be. 

Might’ve been a fundraising ploy. Doesn’t seem this is happening.

Just as I suspect. Trump will never be arrested. He’ll never be charged. It’s been fantasy talk since 2016

The grand jury keeps getting more an more incompetent, yet an indictment is supposed to "hurt" him.

Don't get your hopes up for next week either.

If I had to bet money, I don't think Trump will be indicted. I'll believe it when I see it. Its been 8 years of investigations.

I was wrong, I'm surprised Bragg decided to end Dems' 2024 hopes by indicting Trump for paying off a porn star.

What states that you had Biden winning do you now think Trump wins?

[BG-NY]

Top minds of Atlas

This story died off quick as can be. 

Might’ve been a fundraising ploy. Doesn’t seem this is happening.

Just as I suspect. Trump will never be arrested. He’ll never be charged. It’s been fantasy talk since 2016

The grand jury keeps getting more an more incompetent, yet an indictment is supposed to "hurt" him.

Don't get your hopes up for next week either.

If I had to bet money, I don't think Trump will be indicted. I'll believe it when I see it. Its been 8 years of investigations.

I was wrong, I'm surprised Bragg decided to end Dems' 2024 hopes by indicting Trump for paying off a porn star.

What states that you had Biden winning do you now think Trump wins?

Not just Trump. Any republicans will now win WI/AZ/PA.

[libertpaulian]

I have a feeling independents won't be too angry about this.

[Tekken_Guy]

Top minds of Atlas

This story died off quick as can be. 

Might’ve been a fundraising ploy. Doesn’t seem this is happening.

Just as I suspect. Trump will never be arrested. He’ll never be charged. It’s been fantasy talk since 2016

The grand jury keeps getting more an more incompetent, yet an indictment is supposed to "hurt" him.

Don't get your hopes up for next week either.

If I had to bet money, I don't think Trump will be indicted. I'll believe it when I see it. Its been 8 years of investigations.

I was wrong, I'm surprised Bragg decided to end Dems' 2024 hopes by indicting Trump for paying off a porn star.

What states that you had Biden winning do you now think Trump wins?

Not just Trump. Any republicans will now win WI/AZ/PA.

How about Michigan, Nevada, and Georgia?

[DrScholl]

Top minds of Atlas

This story died off quick as can be. 

Might’ve been a fundraising ploy. Doesn’t seem this is happening.

Just as I suspect. Trump will never be arrested. He’ll never be charged. It’s been fantasy talk since 2016

The grand jury keeps getting more an more incompetent, yet an indictment is supposed to "hurt" him.

Don't get your hopes up for next week either.

If I had to bet money, I don't think Trump will be indicted. I'll believe it when I see it. Its been 8 years of investigations.

I was wrong, I'm surprised Bragg decided to end Dems' 2024 hopes by indicting Trump for paying off a porn star.

The problem with that logic is that it's unethical to not indict someone whether or not the political ramifications are good or bad. That said no indictment has ever been good for a campaign and Trump was already facing a repeat of 2020 as it was.

Ethics aren't the issue here, it's that the case is weak. Bringing a case that doesn't have a high likelihood of success just helps to drive division in this country. If Trump is found guilty, that's something else entirely, but nobody has that expectation

2020 was settled by <45k votes. That's nearly a coinflip. You run that election 100x, Trump wins at least 40.

No one except his base is upset that he was indicted and he needs more his base to be elected. Just because you think that case is weak doesn't mean that it is. If it was weak it never would have been brought to a grand jury. No DA would push a case against a former President without it being solid.

If zero people change their minds from 2020, and you just see an continuation of demographic trends, you have another tossup. If Trump and the GOP weren't morons who eschewed VBM 2020 might've gone the other way.

A "tossup" doesn't win the election for Trump. No one wanted to admit he was at a disadvantage in 2020 until he lost. It's hard to think of a single voter who voted for Biden switching to Trump based on Trump being indicted. The conspiracy theorists who see this as a phony indictment are already supporting Trump.

[BG-NY]

Top minds of Atlas

This story died off quick as can be. 

Might’ve been a fundraising ploy. Doesn’t seem this is happening.

Just as I suspect. Trump will never be arrested. He’ll never be charged. It’s been fantasy talk since 2016

The grand jury keeps getting more an more incompetent, yet an indictment is supposed to "hurt" him.

Don't get your hopes up for next week either.

If I had to bet money, I don't think Trump will be indicted. I'll believe it when I see it. Its been 8 years of investigations.

I was wrong, I'm surprised Bragg decided to end Dems' 2024 hopes by indicting Trump for paying off a porn star.

What states that you had Biden winning do you now think Trump wins?

Not just Trump. Any republicans will now win WI/AZ/PA.

How about Michigan, Nevada, and Georgia?

Michigan - Harder. 2016 was lighting striking. It can strike twice but VBM laws make it tough. A populist can win but it’s hard.
Nevada - I’ve been fooled by this one too many times, and I think non-Cuban hispanics trend left with a Dem incumbent.
Georgia - If republicans win this they have over 300 EVs already. It’s a nonfactor.