UK General Discussion: Rishecession

[GenerationTerrorist]

Have already said so earlier in the thread, but I need to leave this country before I go insane.

[Cassius]

Unlike the Prime Minister, I'm not into being humiliated or dominated.

That being said, everybody can feel free to mock me for supporting Liz for Leader.

My calculation:

Sunak: 132
Truss: 116
Mordaunt: 108

Reality:

Sunak: 137
Truss: 113
Mordaunt: 105

To me this suggests there was no funny business.

Tbh, whilst the polls for Sunak don't look great at the moment, I think both Truss and Mordaunt are eminently beatable for him in the membership vote, particularly given a month long hustings. Mordaunt more so perhaps, as if you're on the right then there really isn't any especially good reason to vote for her over Sunak, but I don't necessarily think that Truss' right-wing posturing is the advantage that some assume it to be, given that the party membership has tended to back the more 'electable' candidate in past contests (with the exception of IDS vs Clarke in 2001).

Battle lines have been drawn between you and I, my friend.

You lost, Cassius. The new regime will purge you and your gang.

Oh what horrors await you at a gulag in Sunderland.

The reports of my demise have been greatly exaggerated.

[brucejoel99]

Unlike the Prime Minister, I'm not into being humiliated or dominated.

That being said, everybody can feel free to mock me for supporting Liz for Leader.

How could one, in good conscience, mock you for helping to guarantee a Starmer premiership longer than Blair's?

(That's my one )

[RFK Jr.’s Brain Worm]

Nothing like waking up and seeing that there’s like 4 new pages in this thread and that it’s been changed to a Hunt for the Red October pun. Gonna be a fun next few weeks I’d imagine. Though for me the only surprise is just how quickly Liz has screwed things up.

[Boobs]

Lizmeralda sacrificed Kwasimodo in The Hunch Beast with Two Back(s) of Whitehall. C(o)unt Frollo as the new chancellor.

[If my soul was made of stone]

Lizmeralda sacrificed Kwasimodo in The Hunch Beast with Two Back(s) of Whitehall. C(o)unt Frollo as the new chancellor.

but did kwasimodo predict all this? the bank of england, the end of the world?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

They also gained a seat in Leicester where Labour nominated a Hindu nationalist in a majority-Muslim ward.

Not Muslim majority but a mixed ward with substantial Muslim and Hindu populations. Worsening communal relations in that part of the city (which have reached the level of actual riots of course) means that the more radicalized sections of the Hindu community seem to have no interest in voting Labour now, which meant that the galaxy brained move of nominating someone from the more radical end of the community appealed to precisely no one and also alienated Muslims and presumably also Sikhs (who also have a presence there, though smaller). I don't know the precise details but it looks like a typical Keith Vaz style trick of the sort that might have worked once but does not any longer. Anyway, the result is about as meaningful for national political considerations as e.g. the Tories winning seats in and around the Manningham district of Bradford in the mid 1990s.

[Joe Republic]

What's the record shortest tenure ever for a PM?  Asking for a friend

[TheTide]

https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1580982554588762112?s=20&t=iMfHNrCY8kV6...

[Cassius]

What's the record shortest tenure ever for a PM?  Asking for a friend

If Truss is rolled in the next few days then she will be the shortest serving PM in British history.

[Earthling]

What's the record shortest tenure ever for a PM?  Asking for a friend

George Canning with 119 days, followed by his successor Goderich with 144 days. Canning died in office, Goderich was just a miserable failure (like Truss).

In modern times (post WWII) the shortest premiership is the 363 days of Douglas Home between 1963 and 1964.

[brucejoel99]

What's the record shortest tenure ever for a PM?  Asking for a friend

If Truss is rolled in the next few days then she will be the shortest serving PM in British history.

Truss has to make it to Jan. 3rd to surpass Canning's tenure in office. Surely she's screwed.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

The end is nigh.

https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1580996556529934337?s=20&t=55AyItsKu5us...

[Joe Republic]

The only hope the Tories have of saving any face at all is to quickly anoint a consensus replacement to avoid another drawn out leadership contest, like in 2003.  Howard still lost the next election of course, but at least helped the party claw back a few dozen seats, whereas IDS would have probably lost them even more.

But anyway, they don't have a consensus choice waiting in the wings to save them, so this is all moot.

[brucejoel99]

But anyway, they don't have a consensus choice waiting in the wings to save them, so this is all moot.

PM Sunak, Chancellor Hunt, Dep. PM/Foreign Sec. Mordaunt looking rather like a forming consensus at this rate…

[Torrain]

Very kind of Truss and Hunt to give Private Eye a cover for next week’s edition:

The gags basically write themselves - “we’re the only ones left!”

[Aurelius]

Unlike the Prime Minister, I'm not into being humiliated or dominated.

That being said, everybody can feel free to mock me for supporting Liz for Leader.

Noi con stupid! ⬆️

😁

[Torrain]

It’s been pointed out to me that the caretaker, interim chancellor Zahawi lasted longer than his ‘permanent’ replacement. Which isn’t important, but it is sort of wild.

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What's the record shortest tenure ever for a PM?  Asking for a friend

Funny enough, there was less than a year in 1827 and 1828 containing the 2 shortest, so there was almost a year of 4 Prime Ministers.

[brucejoel99]

And the nominal number required to trigger an imminent challenge rises by 1 to 179:

https://twitter.com/IsabelHardman/status/1581015523827277826

[MABA 2020]

Unlike the Prime Minister, I'm not into being humiliated or dominated.

That being said, everybody can feel free to mock me for supporting Liz for Leader.

It's okay, I supported Corbyn in 2015, we all make mistakes.

[Blair]

It’s rather like when someone completely unsuited for a senior position in a school gets in and is an obvious disaster to parents, children and teachers- the school generally want to wait a year to remove them so they can claim ‘well it wasn’t really working’, but if they remove them within weeks it’s clear something very bad was going wrong- but equally if they don’t they risk a much worse outcome.

[Blair]

Curious what others think but my hunch is that no-matter who is the new leader you are not going to remove this poison from the blood- whether it’s the legacy of the current economic crash, the tension between fiscal discipline and spending, the weird 2019 coalition or just the insane collection of characters the same cards are still going to be there for PM Sunak.

[Silent Hunter]

Yes, but a competent PM could slow the spread of the poison just enough to make the Tories' path back to power easier. There is a difference between 250 seats at a general and 300.

[All Along The Watchtower]

What's the record shortest tenure ever for a PM?  Asking for a friend

George Canning with 119 days, followed by his successor Goderich with 144 days. Canning died in office, Goderich was just a miserable failure (like Truss).

The reign of George IV eh? How…fitting.