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« Reply #550 on: December 23, 2023, 08:41:05 AM »

With 3 weeks left, both the KMT Hou and TPP Ko camps are doing fairly large rallies for part of the weekend.  For some reason, there are no big DPP rallies yet but I am sure they are coming soon.

KMT Hou rally in Taipei (right in front of the Prez palace) which is fairly large given the cold and rainy weather - note that everyone is wearing raincoats.






TPP Ko rally in Kaoshiung with the title "Unity of pro-Ko, pro-Han and pro-Guo forces" which is an attempt to eat into the KMT vote.  Note the significant number of ROC flags as part of that effort.  Note as big as the KMT rally but fairly sizeable given the limited resources the TPP Ko campaign has.


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« Reply #551 on: December 24, 2023, 07:20:54 AM »

Signs of future TPP/Guo tactical voting for KMT Hou

KMT Hou, TPP mayor of  Hsinchu City 高虹安(Ann Kao)  KMT county magistrate of Hsinchu county, and KMT rebel county magistrate of Maioli county together at the opening game of the ROC national basketball league in  Hsinchu City. 

 The KMT rebel county magistrate of Maioli county was for TPP Ko earlier in the year but has now backed KMT Hou as part of the Pan-Blue consolidation when KMT-TPP unity talks failed.  Note that 高虹安(Ann Kao) is really associated with Guo and was "on loan" to the TPP back in 2020 to run as a TPP PR candidate and then in 2022 as mayor of  Hsinchu City.  She won in 2022 on the back of the KMT tactical vote

The fact that the TPP mayor of  Hsinchu City 高虹安(Ann Kao) as host invited KMT Hou and not TPP Ko to the opening game is already a signal.

In the various group photos, all the pro-Hou people, including KMT Hou himself, all posed with a hand gesture of "3" which is KMT Hou's candidate number.  Note that 高虹安(Ann Kao)'s hand gesture is a "heart symbol" and not "1" which is TPP Ko's candidate number.



Very clear signs that Gou and pro-KMT factions within TPP are moving toward KMT Hou.  Watch this space for some potentially dramatic events a few days before the election.
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« Reply #552 on: December 24, 2023, 08:33:32 AM »

History of PR vote by bloc (since 2008 when the current system of a separate PR vote started) plus my 2024 PR vote projections

                      2024proj       2020       2016       2012        2008
Deep Blue           1.0%         2.2%       6.3%      1.5%       4.0%
KMT                 37.0%        33.4%      26.9%   44.6%      51.2%
Light Blue           0.6%         4.2%      10.2%     6.7%        2.2%
TPP                  18.6%        11.2%
Light Green        5.4%        10.3%       3.2%      3.4%        1.9%
DPP                  34.5%       34.0%      44.1%    34.6%      36.9%
Deep Green        2.9%         4.8%        9.4%      9.2%        3.8%

Note for NPP, I counted them as Deep Green in 2016 but as Light Green in 2020.  Just like I would count PFP as Deep Blue before 2005 but Light Blue after 2005.
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« Reply #553 on: December 24, 2023, 03:47:42 PM »

There is a significant chance that TPP Ko's vote share might fall below 20%.  If that is the case his ability to control TPP will be quite compromised. In that situation, the TPP legislative caucus will become much more powerful.  The two people like to emerge as the de facto leader of TPP in that scenario are 黃珊珊(Huang Shan-shan) or 黃國昌(Huang Kuo-chang.)

The two will likely have two very different paths in mind for TPP.  The path will be at odds with their ideology and be much more about their personal political experience.

黃珊珊(Huang Shan-shan) started as Deep Blue and was recruited by current KMT VP candidate Chao to enter into NP in the mid-1990s.  She served as a NP MP and later joined PFP and became more Light Blue in her orientation   She tried to become and failed to be a KMT-PFP joint candidate for MP in 2008 which led her to take on an anti-KMT position.  In 2016 she took support from DPP to run against the KMT in her district in Taipei in a losing effort but as a result, she built a personal relationship with DPP Prez Tsai.  Her brother has a military background and is non-political but became pretty high up in the DPP Tsai administration DoD.  In the end, she made too many enemies in the Pan-Blue ecosystem so she eventually joined TPP.   黃珊珊(Huang Shan-shan)'s orientation, despite her Deep Blue background, is mostly anti-KMT and if she is in charge of TPP she is much more likely to take a neutral position between KMT and DPP and could side with DPP under the right circumstances.   




黃國昌(Huang Kuo-chang) has a Deep Green anti-KMT background and has been an activist since the early 2000s mostly against the KMT agenda.  He was a co-founder of NPP and ran in the 2014 and 2016 elections as a DPP ally.  Under the 2016 DPP Tsai administration he collided with the DPP on resource sharing between DPP and NPP and by 2020 had become mostly anti-DPP.  Eventually, he made too many enemies in the Pan-Green ecosystem and became much more pro-Ko leading to him joining TPP earlier in 2023.  Despite his Deep Green background 黃國昌(Huang Kuo-chang) is mostly about being anti-DPP and anti-New Tide faction.  If he were in charge of TPP he would for sure take a tactical alliance with the KMT line against the DPP.


The story of the two Huangs shows that personal experience and personal conflicts play a bigger role than ideology in determining their political line.

I just watched a hour-long interview with 黃國昌(Huang Kuo-chang).  Just like I predicted.  He pretty much spent 90% of the time attacking DPP and DPP Lai.  While he also criticized KMT Hou he does seem to affirm that KMT Hou is at the foundation a good person and found some positions to say about KMT Hou.  When he attacked the KMT he attacked them for not being anti-DPP enough.  He did at the end ask for a vote for KMT Hou and the PR vote for TPP but alluded to a vote for the KMT in the district legislative race where TPP is not running.

It is just amazing that would be 黃國昌(Huang Kuo-chang)'s position after he was the ultimate "anti-KMT" activist back in the 2013-2016 period.
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« Reply #554 on: December 25, 2023, 05:59:24 AM »
« Edited: December 25, 2023, 08:24:39 AM by jaichind »

Fun multi-cornered battles in legislative races (most competitive races were won by DPP and allies in 2020 and are open seats)


Taipei 1st (Blue +1)
A fairly popular DPP incumbent is vulnerable given the lean of the race.  But a fairly popular former NP MLA 侯漢廷(Hou Han-Ting) who is quite active on political talk shows is running with TPP support and will cut into the KMT vote.  It is funny how TPP has people running who are from both Deep Green and Deep Blue backgrounds.  As a result, the KMT will most likely miss its chance to flip this seat unless there is a large anti-DPP wave on election day.
Result: Likely DPP hold


Taipei 4th (Blue +6)
DPP incumbant vs KMT former incumbant vs TSP.   DPP light-green maverick 高嘉瑜(Kao Chia-Yu) is trying to beat the former KMT incumbent she upset back in 2020 while facing a Deep Green challenge from TSP in this "battle of three women".  
Result: Almost certain KMT flip


Taipei 5th (Blue +3)
Pro-DPP independent with an NPP background incumbent who won in 2020 on the back of a TPP-backed KMT rebel splitting the KMT vote is not running due to personal reasons.  Theoretically, this should be a KMT pickup but the KMT candidate faced a protracted KMT primary. The TPP is backing a famous Pan-Blue media personality 于美人(Belle Yu) turning this election into a 3-way race and repeating the 2020 election.  
Result: I still have this as a KMT flip based on last-minute Pan-Blue consolidation but CW is that the DPP will win based on the Pan-Blue split.


Kaoshiung 5th (Green+5)
The DPP incumbent dropped out due to a sex scandal.  A rising DPP superstar MLA from a district next door with a NPP background 黃捷(Huang Jie) is brought in to run for DPP.  The KMT candidate is the same one from 2020 and has local roots.  A well-funded Deep Green and long-time Taiwan Independence activist DPP rebel is in the race.   There is talk that a couple of local DPP MLAs are angry that they are being skipped over to run with an outsider being brought in.  
Result: The DPP rebel will get a significant vote share and make this race very close but I do think the DPP will pull it out.


Keelung City at large (Blue +8)
The DPP incumbent is not running which de facto makes the KMT the favorite to flip the seat.  The labor activist son of a former DPP MP is running with NPP support and will make the DPP defeat almost certain.    What would be interesting would be the vote share breakdowns.
Result: Easy KMT flip


Yilan County at large (Green +7)
The DPP incumbent had to drop out due to a scandal leading to a flood of candidates from the Pan-Green camp.  In addition to the KMT DPP and TPP candidates, a TSP candidate and a DPP rebel are also in the fray.  The TPP candidate is currently a TPP PR MP and ran as the TPP candidate for county magistrate back in 2022 so she does have some name recognition.  In theory, she cuts into the expected TPP PR vote support for the KMT candidate but the split of the DPP vote gives the KMT an edge.
Result: I have it as a KMT flip but I can see the argument that a last-minute Pan-Green consolidation could let DPP pull it out.


Hsinchu City at large (Blue +4)
The KMT incumbent who won in 2020 in a close 3-way KMT-DPP-NPP race is running for re-election in a 4-way race  Other than the DPP candidate, NPP is a candidate to try to hold on to its high 2020 vote share while TPP is backing Ko's sister running as a pro-TPP independent.  It seems TPP Ko was not supportive of his sister running but the local TPP made to call to back her independent run.  The KMT incumbent would be in danger if TPP and NPP joined forces to sweep the youth vote and trigger tactical voting from the DPP.  But with the youth vote split between NPP and the pro-TPP independent the KMT incumbent should consolidate the elderly vote and win.
Result: Very likely KMT hold


Taitung County at large (Blue+18)
The lean of the county is deceptive.  The KMT is very strong here due to the large Aborgine vote that is very strongly pro-KMT.  But for legislative races, the DPP is far more competitive since the Aborigines vote in a separate all-Aborigine slate leaving the non-Aborgines to vote in the legislative races for this seat.  The DPP won here in 2012 (based on a KMT split) 2016, and 2020 where the DPP candidate has a lot of personal appeal beyond the DPP.  This time a local DPP rival who is also fairly popular beyond the DPP base challenged the DPP incumbent and won.  The DPP incumbent rebelled and will run as an independent.  In theory, this makes the race an easy KMT win.  But the problem is the KMT is also facing a fairly strong KMT rebel with strong local roots running as an independent turning this into a 4-way race plus a TPP candidate that is not expected to win that many votes.
Result: I think KMT takes it and flips the seat which is also CW but it depends on how the vote split with the 2 rebels works out.


Hsinchu County 2nd (Blue +15)
The KMT incumbent will win an easy re-election by a large vote margin.  What is fun is the DPP candidate is not that well known and the NPP is running their chairperson and current NPP PR MP 王婉諭 (Claire Wang) in this race.  With the right tactical voting by TPP PR vote the NPP could beat DPP into 3rd place.
Result: Easy KMT hold


Tainan 6th (Green +9)
The DPP incumbent should win re-election with ease.  What is fun is a pan-Green rebel 陳永和 (Chen Yung-Ho) who as an unknown ward head shocked everyone in the 2018 Tainan mayor race by winning 12% of the vote based on his opposition to how waste disposal was being handled in Tainan City.   He backed DPP in 2020 but this time around is running as an independent.  It will be fun to see how many Pan-Green votes (and perhaps TPP votes) he manages to win.   Of course, the DPP incumbent is in no danger whatsoever of losing even if his victory margin might come down from 2020.
Result: Easy DPP hold.
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« Reply #555 on: December 25, 2023, 07:23:29 AM »

Despite polling, I start to feel Hou will pull it out in the end...
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« Reply #556 on: December 25, 2023, 08:14:31 AM »

Despite polling, I start to feel Hou will pull it out in the end...

My current guess is

DPP Lai   41
KMT Hou 39
TPP Ko    20

I would say the chances of Lai vs Hou's victory are now as close as 60/40 given the edge Hou has in tactical voting while the entire 賴皮寮(Shameless Shack) scandal not going away means that 41-42 is pretty much the cap for DPP Lai.
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« Reply #557 on: December 25, 2023, 08:46:47 AM »

TPP Ko spent a week or two trying to get the Light Green vote by attacking the DPP New Tide faction and also praising DPP Prez Tsai, this week TPP Ko's focus is on getting the Blue vote.  He first kept on talking about how he wanted the 2020 KMT Prez candidate and 2024 KMT PR list head Han as his VP candidate.  He also said that the PRC political system may evolve to be more like the ROC and implied that if such a transformation takes place then PRC-ROC unification is possible.
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« Reply #558 on: December 25, 2023, 08:52:49 AM »

So far the DPP Lai campaign does not seem to be focused on big rallies.  The rally format so far is to hold a smaller rally in every city/county with each smallish rally having people hold up cards to form different words per city/county.  Most of the words involve Lai's name or the world "Taiwan" or "win" etc etc.




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« Reply #559 on: December 25, 2023, 09:41:57 AM »

Despite polling, I start to feel Hou will pull it out in the end...

My current guess is

DPP Lai   41
KMT Hou 39
TPP Ko    20

I would say the chances of Lai vs Hou's victory are now as close as 60/40 given the edge Hou has in tactical voting while the entire 賴皮寮(Shameless Shack) scandal not going away means that 41-42 is pretty much the cap for DPP Lai.

Increasing feeling that it's going to be
KMT Hou 42
DPP Lai 40
TPP Ko 18...
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« Reply #560 on: December 25, 2023, 09:59:08 AM »
« Edited: December 25, 2023, 10:36:46 AM by jaichind »

For a while, the picture shown on Google Maps of the address of DPP Lai's "illegal" house AKA 賴皮寮(Shameless Shack) is a fake meme ad

Which says "Shameless Shack: The best illegal construction in 100 years. Priceless Green energy, invincible military police protection"



It seems after a couple of days this was taken down
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« Reply #561 on: December 25, 2023, 12:21:59 PM »

The pro-KMT speaker of Pingdong County assembly 周典論(Chou Dien-Lun) was questioned and held by government investigators over his role in possible bribery related to Guo's Prez election signature campaign.    Chou was pro-Guo earlier in the year but consolidated around KMT Hou when KMT-TPP unity talks failed.  Chou played a key role in a KMT Hou rally last week and this week he has been arrested by government investigators.

Many commentators say that this is most likely related to the legislative election in Pingdong 2nd district.  This area has historically been the territory of the powerful pro-DPP Su family.  The current MP 蘇震清(Su  Tsėn-Tshing) was charged with corruption right before the 2020 election and left the DPP to run as a pro-DPP independent.  The Su family has been close to DPP Tsai (who also comes from Pingdong County).  蘇震清(Su Tsėn-Tshing)'s uncle 蘇嘉全(Su Jia-Chyuan) was the DPP county magistrate before running as DPP Tsai's running mate in 2012.   

The Pingdong Su family has been more hostile to the New Tide faction so in this election the DPP ran its own candidate.   In anger 蘇震清(Su Tsėn-Tshing) arranged for his son to run as a DPP rebel.   The local KMT kingpin 蘇清泉(Su Ching-Chuan) (no relation) narrowly lost in his run for Pingdong County magistrate last year convinced the KMT high command to not run a candidate and de facto back 蘇震清(Su Tsėn-Tshing)'s son in his run.  蘇清泉(Su Ching-Chuan) overperformed in the 2nd district last year (winning this district 48.6 to 47.8 against the DPP winner) and it was always understood that the DPP Su family stood down last year to help 蘇清泉(Su Ching-Chuan).

It seems the KMT-DPP Su family alliance is fairly strong on the ground and stands a chance of flipping this seat.  If that were to take place the KMT-DPP Su family alliance could extend into 2026 when 蘇清泉(Su Ching-Chuan) will try to run for county magistrate again and the DPP Su family might actively back him to pay him back for his support in their election for the Pingdong 2nd district.

The DPP-controlled government prosecutors going after the pro-KMT speaker of the county assembly seem to be related to this risk.
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« Reply #562 on: December 25, 2023, 02:17:02 PM »

TVBS points out that on Google map old images from August showing ROC military police helping sweep the garden of DPP Lai's "illegal" house AKA 賴皮寮(Shameless Shack) now got blurred out so you can no longer see their ROC military police badge although the garbage can they are using are not blurred out.


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« Reply #563 on: December 26, 2023, 08:01:34 AM »
« Edited: December 26, 2023, 06:42:22 PM by jaichind »

The second Prez debate took place.  DPP Lai this time focused on attacking KMT Hou on his "property" issue namely how KMT Hou owns 凱旋苑(Triumph Court) which is a dorm at 中國文化大學(China Culture University) on top of 陽明山(Yangming Mountain) in Northern Taipei.  This seems mostly a way to distract from his own 賴皮寮(Shameless Shack) issue.



When KMT Hou was running for the mayor of New Taipei City in 2018 the DPP claimed that this dorm was built illegally.  During the campaign, it seemed that Hou could show the documents that indicated this was not the case.   This building is really owned by the family of KMT Hou's wife.

This time around the DPP tried to re-litigate this issue but it went nowhere.  The new DPP Lai attack seems to be a) KMT Hou did not pay taxes on the rent earned from this building and b) the rent for rooms in the building has been surging the last few years.

It seems after the debate KMT Hou is able to show receipts on taxes paid for the rent collected from this dorm.  As for b) that is a lot harder to defend because it seems these rent increases are market-driven.

My grandparents lived in a villa on 陽明山(Yangming Mountain) from 1980 to 2010.  I will always walk to 中國文化大學(China Culture University) every time I go visit them. The view from CCU downward at Taipei is a great tourist attraction in Taipei.



 I recall this 凱旋苑(Triumph Court)  being renovated in the mid-2000s on one of my trips to CCU.  I did not realize until today that the building I saw being built is owned by KMT Hou (or really KMT Hou's wife).
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« Reply #564 on: December 26, 2023, 08:35:04 AM »

Beyond Pingdong 2nd district, where the KMT will back a DPP rebel to take on the DPP, there are 3 other examples of cross-partisan alliances.

The most interesting one is Chiayi County 2nd district (Green+7):  Just like in 2020 the KMT will back a former DPP MP, 林國慶(Lin Kuo-Ching) to take on the DPP.    Back in 2020, he took on the legislative leader of the Tsai faction AKA King of Chiayi County 陳明文(Chen Ming-wen).   In the late 1970s, Chen was a rising superstar in the KMT.  He was elected to the Chiayi County Assembly in 1977 at the age of 23 and became Speaker of the Chiayi County Assembly in 1981 at the age of 27 as part of being the leader of the pro-KMT Lin faction.  Chen later became a KMT MP and defected in 2001 to the DPP due to clear partisan re-alignment in the county plus what he felt was KMT bias in favor of the rival Huang faction.  Chen later was the first to jump on the Tsai bandwagon in 2008 (both were from KMT backgrounds) and became the core of the Tsai faction.  In 2020 due to clear anti-incumbency against Chen (having been in  Chiayi County politics for 43 years) Lin barely lost to Chen 46.1 to 41.2.  This time DPP is running Chen's son while Lin is backed by KMT TPP PFP and TRP (Light Green DPP splinter).  If the 2020 anti-incumbency against the Chen family continues this year this might be a surprise flip.  Otherwise, it should be a narrow DPP hold.  Still, the KMT hopes to get some pan-Green anti-Chen voters to vote for KMT Hou.


Tainan 2nd (Green +17).  This is the most pro-DPP district in ROC.  The KMT is backing DPP rebel 陳昆和(Chen Kun-He) who was a two-time anti-DPP but pan-Green MLA.  Chen is aligned with the DPP anti-New Tide forces in New Tide-dominated Tainan and the KMT is hoping to cut the margin of the DPP landslide and perhaps some anti-New Tide DPP vote might go to KMT Hou by this move.


Taoyuan 6th (Blue +8).  The DPP is backing, just like in 2016 and 2020, a KMT rebel 趙正宇(Chao Cheng-Yu) who managed to win in both years despite the lean.  Chao has a Deep Blue background and was a KMT MLA but had a falling out with the local KMT.  in 2016 and 2020 Chao has been able to add his personal vote to the DPP base to ride to victory over the KMT candidate.    The main problem for Chao is that in 2020 he was arrested for corruption.  It seems he was acquitted of the more serious part of the charges although the prosecution is still in the middle of appealing.  This district is fairly rural so the impact should not be that large but given the swing against the DPP plus the corruption factor, I think KMT flips this even though CW has this as a tossup or lean Chao.
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« Reply #565 on: December 26, 2023, 12:05:32 PM »

TPP Ko says his goal is to get Asian Games to be in Taipei for 2038 followed by trying to get Summer Olympics for 2040.
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« Reply #566 on: December 26, 2023, 12:59:13 PM »

One topic in today's Prez debate besides the usual stuff (relationship with PRC, various zoning violations, various DPP corruption accusations) is lower income and class mobility.

It is totally true that over the last 20 years, income and class mobility have slowed down dramatically. It was pointed out that the chances of a kid from a high-income family getting into Taiwan University (the top University in ROC) is 8 times larger than a kid from a low-income family.  And this has nothing to do with legacies or "holistic" admissions that target URM (there are none in ROC anyway) or those that donate money to the University like the USA.  ROC university admissions are purely based on college entrance exams. 

The reason for this might be the rich being able to afford tutoring or cram school (my parents used to run/teach at college entrance cram schools back in the 1970s and made good money doing it).  But it is much more likely the result of assortative mating.   Before the rise of feminism trend on ROC during the 1990s, male doctors tend to marry female nurses.  Now with greater gender equity, male doctors marry women doctors.    This trend has created a clear and strong positive correlation between income and test scores when such a correlation used to be fairly weak back in the 1980s and before.
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« Reply #567 on: December 26, 2023, 06:48:00 PM »

If Hou wins how will PRC react?
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« Reply #568 on: December 26, 2023, 09:50:21 PM »

One topic in today's Prez debate besides the usual stuff (relationship with PRC, various zoning violations, various DPP corruption accusations) is lower income and class mobility.

It is totally true that over the last 20 years, income and class mobility have slowed down dramatically. It was pointed out that the chances of a kid from a high-income family getting into Taiwan University (the top University in ROC) is 8 times larger than a kid from a low-income family.  And this has nothing to do with legacies or "holistic" admissions that target URM (there are none in ROC anyway) or those that donate money to the University like the USA.  ROC university admissions are purely based on college entrance exams.  

The reason for this might be the rich being able to afford tutoring or cram school (my parents used to run/teach at college entrance cram schools back in the 1970s and made good money doing it).  But it is much more likely the result of assortative mating.   Before the rise of feminism trend on ROC during the 1990s, male doctors tend to marry female nurses.  Now with greater gender equity, male doctors marry women doctors.    This trend has created a clear and strong positive correlation between income and test scores when such a correlation used to be fairly weak back in the 1980s and before.

I understand that the ROC historically had some sort of "preference" for Overseas Chinese students, and that there was a controversy over Ma Ying-jeou's university admissions and whether he unfairly benefitted from 'affirmative action'.

An easy solution for the issue of "assortative mating" is, to use references to Netflix series characters, have lowlife fkboi delivery drivers like 小查 get with prim-and-proper schoolteacher-cum-romance novelists like 陳如蓉. It's certainly been suggested in the Anglophone West.
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« Reply #569 on: December 27, 2023, 04:33:23 AM »


At this stage I do not think this election makes a difference to the PRC with the exception of DPP Lai winning and, over the objections of the USA, moving in a legal sense toward Taiwan Independence.  At this stage, after making several attempts in the 2000-2020 period to achieve its goals via the ROC electorate voting for the KMT and getting nothing to show for it, the PRC is mostly giving up on the KMT as a vehicle to achieve what it wants.  At this stage, the PRC will focus on creating the right positive and negative incentives for the ROC to get what it wants.  It would not surprise me that sometime after the election the PRC will start rolling out a time schedule on a Reunification process and demand the ROC and USA fall in line.
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« Reply #570 on: December 27, 2023, 04:39:53 AM »



I understand that the ROC historically had some sort of "preference" for Overseas Chinese students, and that there was a controversy over Ma Ying-jeou's university admissions and whether he unfairly benefitted from 'affirmative action'.

An easy solution for the issue of "assortative mating" is, to use references to Netflix series characters, have lowlife fkboi delivery drivers like 小查 get with prim-and-proper schoolteacher-cum-romance novelists like 陳如蓉. It's certainly been suggested in the Anglophone West.

The ROC college entrance system allows for quotas for Overseas Chinese (most people who use this are actually Chinese from Malaysia) and extra points given to "Tibetian, Mongolian, and Taiwanese Aborginine"  on exams.  The impact of both on overall numbers is tiny so really for anyone taking the exam these "benefits" are non-factors to his or her chances.  What I like about the ROC system when compared to the USA is when they do affirmative action they are open and transparent about it and state the exact number of point benefits for being a "Tibetian, Mongolian, and Taiwanese Aborginine."   

As for assortative mating, note that Oriental cultures are a lot more hypergamous than in the West so I think once you have a culture change in the relationships between the genders along with high educational and career achievements with highly intelligent and talented women assortable mating and growing household income disparity is inevitable.
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« Reply #571 on: December 27, 2023, 04:57:08 AM »

Ettoday post-second debate poll - DPP Lai expands lead by gaining from TPP Ko

DPP Lai      38.1 (+1.9)
KMT Hou    34.8 (--)
TPP Ko       19.2 (-1.5)



DPP Lai gains are with older votes TPP Ko.  Part of this sounds feels like a reversion to the mean.
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« Reply #572 on: December 27, 2023, 05:06:31 AM »

DPP Tsai faction controlled Mnews poll - tends to be cell/youth heavy with some Green lean

Solid DPP Lai lead but converging to other less cell/youth-heavy polls

DPP Lai    33.3
KMT Hou  26.5
TPP Ko     23.2




Same pattern.  TPP Ko is stronger with men and KMT Hou is stronger with women



Age and education breakdown is similar story compared to other polls



All 3 candidates have "real estate issues"  for each candidate does this have an impact

DPP Lai     56.5 says at least some impact
KMT Hou   46.0 says at least some impact
TPP Ko      56.6 says at least some impact

These numbers are a victory for the DPP Lai campaign to try to link the "real estate" issues of all three when it is clear DPP Lai's problems are the worst since it involves likely lying from the DPP Lai camp.





General legislative poll - DPP and KMT neck and neck again just like back in mid Oct
DPP     29.6
KMT    29.4
TPP     11.7




PR vote - continued KMT edge
KMT         31.5
DPP          28.3
TPP          19.2
NPP           1.1
TSP           0.9

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« Reply #573 on: December 27, 2023, 05:11:02 AM »

KMT Hou camp gives a press conference with documents showing that all taxes are paid on KMT Hou's wife owned 凱旋苑(Triumph Court).  As for rising rent KMT Hou camp says that since 2018 this property has been put into a trust controlled by the Shin Kong Group (TPP VP candidate Wu is the scion of this large conglomeration) and that that group controls the rent.  What KMT Hou's wife will commit to is once the term of the trust expires in 2026 they will take any profits from the rental income of 凱旋苑(Triumph Court) toward a fund that will subsidize rent for low-income students in CCU.

Internal polling by the KMT Hou camp must show this issue his hitting them ergo a need to defuse this ASAP so the focus goes back to DPP Lai's "real estate" issues.
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« Reply #574 on: December 27, 2023, 10:45:25 AM »

Some moves by VP candidates to grab votes from other blocs.

a) Deep Blue KMT VP candidate Chao says that under a Hou-Chao administration there will be no reunification talks with PRC trying to target Light Blue and Light Green votes
b) TPP VP candidate Wu says that she identify as a Chinese as well as a Taiwanese trying to get Deep Blue votes.
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