Biden infrastructure/tax increase megathread

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1453786434524098561

Does it mean Warren also a NO?

[President Johnson]

I still think what is best for the GOP is for a bunch of House GOP members to approach Pelosi to say that they will make up the vote Progressive vote she will lose on BIF. 

I really wouldn't rely on them. Sure, this bill should actually pass with a large majority. I just don't think it will get more than 230 votes in the end.

[wbrocks67]

I still think what is best for the GOP is for a bunch of House GOP members to approach Pelosi to say that they will make up the vote Progressive vote she will lose on BIF. 

Apparently McCarthy is actively whipping against it, unfortunately

[Del Tachi]

I still think what is best for the GOP is for a bunch of House GOP members to approach Pelosi to say that they will make up the vote Progressive vote she will lose on BIF. 

The CPC would see this a total betrayal and probably want to blow the whole caucus up if Pelosi agreed to pass BIF with GOP support while reconciliation is still up in the air

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

https://twitter.com/JacquiHeinrich/status/1453789248822382596

[Person Man]

https://twitter.com/JacquiHeinrich/status/1453789248822382596

Good for her.

[KaiserDave]

Only 9? Not good

[Antonio the Sixth]

Only 9? Not good

I'd have to hope those numbers will grow once it becomes clear than Manchin and Sinema are trying to swindle us again.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Emergency rules committee meeting on build back better in about 20 minutes

The house remains in recess subject to the call of the chair

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

Only 9? Not good

I'd have to hope those numbers will grow once it becomes clear than Manchin and Sinema are trying to swindle us again.

I think this is old news, they were saying in Politico there were 9 ‘hard; noes a few days ago. There are clearly more.

Though, FWIW, 9 is the exact number of the traitors who tried to force a vote earlier this month. Apparently 9 congressmen from the right can drive the caucus and 9 congressmen from the left are a problem to be squashed.

I’ve usually been rather supportive of Pelosi, but I have no idea wtf she thinks she’s doing.

[wbrocks67]

For anyone who thinks the rec bill isn't a big deal to normal, everyday people-

https://twitter.com/SenatorWarnock/status/1453765423992909834

[jojoju1998]

For anyone who thinks the rec bill isn't a big deal to normal, everyday people-

https://twitter.com/SenatorWarnock/status/1453765423992909834

It IS a big deal. It's just frustrating that Manchin and Sinema are being a holes.

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

For anyone who thinks the rec bill isn't a big deal to normal, everyday people-

https://twitter.com/SenatorWarnock/status/1453765423992909834

Do you really think that’s going to last after Manchin gets what he wants today?

[StateBoiler]

Punchbowl News Midday:

Speaker Nancy Pelosi met Tuesday with a group of Democratic lawmakers from Virginia and New Jersey. The two states have gubernatorial elections next week, and they requested a meeting with Pelosi. Their delegations are eager to pass the bipartisan infrastructure bill.

Pelosi tried to quell their concerns by saying that she was going to try to pass the bill Thursday.

Why are we telling you this? It indicate that Pelosi is sensitive to the political concerns in New Jersey and Virginia. And that she was planning this strategy all week.

[beesley]

I haven't spoken much on this topic. Obviously this is not as great a bill, but it is a good bill that should be passed, and what didn't make it fought for with great fervour.

[American2020]

https://twitter.com/MeetThePress/status/1453793502882631689

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

https://twitter.com/MeetThePress/status/1453793502882631689

Cucks. This is why the corporate Democrats run circles around us.

[Horus]

For anyone who thinks the rec bill isn't a big deal to normal, everyday people-

https://twitter.com/SenatorWarnock/status/1453765423992909834

Senator Warnock for the people.

[Pericles]

I'm proud of President Biden for taking major action on climate change and prioritising it. Every Democrat has a responsibility to get in line and vote for this, and everyone who votes against it will go down in history as planet-burning arsonists because of their own stupidity or desire for selfish political gain.

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1453734398747054084

[GeneralMacArthur]

If Justice Dem self-promoters want to vote against what will undoubtedly be an incredibly popular and influential bill, I say go for it.  Voting NO on the main thing Dems are gonna run on in the 2022 midterms doesn't seem like an ace political move to me, but what do I know, my tweets don't get 168K likes.

I seem to recall throughout 2015-2020 "progressives" justifying their outlandish, unworkable, fantasy-land demands by saying "you have to demand more than you want so you meet in the middle to get what you actually want."  Or some variant of that thinking.  So in this negotiation, Biden started by demanding the most progressive spending plan imaginable, and then the furthest-right members of the caucus pared it down to something that's still pretty good.  But now apparently that "meet in the middle" strategy goes out the window, and if you don't agree to the original demand, we're not going to vote for it.  OK, so the entire thing was in bad faith?  Like these people are just children.  Folks, please stop electing idiot children to Congress -- they don't know how to govern, they don't know how to legislate, they don't know how to negotiate, and all they do is humiliate the party day after day after day.

[emailking]

I'm glad Biden started with something huge. Obama started with something reasonable on healthcare and had to compromise down from there.

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

Senator Coons says that Manchin and Sinema support the bill.

https://politicalwire.com/2021/10/28/coons-says-manchin-and-sinema-back-bidens-plan/

[roxas11]

I got to admit that it is a kind of wild to see Joe Manchin these days being portrayed as this villain who is looking to backstab a democrat president the first chance he gets

I remember when Joe Manchin stuck his neck out for Obama and put his political career on the line when he tried to help him pass a universal background check bill after sandy hook. This was a red state Dem who in the past had even been supported by the NRA yet there he was going on tv not only to defend Obama but he also tried to help to him pass his background check bill

In the end it was not Joe Manchin, who ended up backstabbing Obama, it was Heidi Heitkamp and 3 other Dems....

Say what will about the Joe Manchin, but he will always have my respect for at least trying to do the right thing after sandy hook at a time when it did not politically benefit him at all to do so

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

If Justice Dem self-promoters want to vote against what will undoubtedly be an incredibly popular and influential bill, I say go for it.  Voting NO on the main thing Dems are gonna run on in the 2022 midterms doesn't seem like an ace political move to me, but what do I know, my tweets don't get 168K likes.

I seem to recall throughout 2015-2020 "progressives" justifying their outlandish, unworkable, fantasy-land demands by saying "you have to demand more than you want so you meet in the middle to get what you actually want."  Or some variant of that thinking.  So in this negotiation, Biden started by demanding the most progressive spending plan imaginable, and then the furthest-right members of the caucus pared it down to something that's still pretty good.  But now apparently that "meet in the middle" strategy goes out the window, and if you don't agree to the original demand, we're not going to vote for it.  OK, so the entire thing was in bad faith?  Like these people are just children.  Folks, please stop electing idiot children to Congress -- they don't know how to govern, they don't know how to legislate, they don't know how to negotiate, and all they do is humiliate the party day after day after day.

The "Squad" might not be the most serious people in politics but at least they have beliefs, unlike the nihilistic quirky wino. (I'm not sure one way or the other about the coal and EpiPen baron.)