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« Reply #225 on: November 06, 2021, 01:40:42 PM »

What happened in Virginia must have emboldened him.
To be perfectly honest with you the Results in Virginia & New Jersey would have embolded just about every Republican looking for a Senate Run. And Democrats keep digging themselves into deeper holes.

They have just passed a 1.2 Trillion $ Infrastructure Bill, YET they want to pass another 1.75 Trillion $ on top of that!

Hope Kelly Ayotte runs to replace Sununu should he run for Senate and keep his good policies in NH in place.
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« Reply #226 on: November 06, 2021, 01:42:37 PM »

What happened in Virginia must have emboldened him.

This is true, though I think the race would lean toward him even if McAuliffe won in VA. Now he has pretty much nothing to fear if he does make a bid. As for myself I'm on the fence about who to support if he runs. I usually oppose Republicans and Phil Scott and Charlie Baker are more my type, but Sununu doesn't seem too bad, though I wish he'd made NH enter the interstate climate agreement that Baker, Scott and Larry Hogan put their states in.
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« Reply #227 on: November 06, 2021, 01:43:27 PM »

Also if Sununu runs for Senate, NH Dems should see the silver lining, bail on the Senate race completely and instead gun for NH GOV to take away the GOP's trifecta.
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« Reply #228 on: November 06, 2021, 01:47:02 PM »

To be fair, Sununu was probably in regardless of VA or NJ. Especially with his poll numbers.
Republican Governors have a pretty good Track Record winning Senate Races. Rick Scott, John Hoeven, Mike Rounds just to name a few. Granted Hoeven & Rounds don't live in Swing States.

I still think a Sununu vs Hassan Race will be right.

NH will give us a pretty good indicator how Election Night 2022 will go. Given the States large Independent Bloc of Voters (NH has more Registered Independents than Democrats & Republicans) if Sununu wins them there is no reason to believe Republicans won't win them elsewhere.
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« Reply #229 on: November 06, 2021, 02:50:57 PM »

Also if Sununu runs for Senate, NH Dems should see the silver lining, bail on the Senate race completely and instead gun for NH GOV to take away the GOP's trifecta.
They are undedog against Ayott as well
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« Reply #230 on: November 06, 2021, 04:04:01 PM »

Also if Sununu runs for Senate, NH Dems should see the silver lining, bail on the Senate race completely and instead gun for NH GOV to take away the GOP's trifecta.
They are undedog against Ayott as well

Considering the NHGOP's gerrymander plan I wouldn't be surprised to see Pappas bail on NH-1 and go for Governor. That'd make it a toss-up
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« Reply #231 on: November 06, 2021, 04:56:59 PM »

Hassan beat Ayotte by only 2,000 Votes in 2016 and should easily be the most vulnerable Democrat in 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_Senate_election_in_New_Hampshire
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« Reply #232 on: November 06, 2021, 05:27:57 PM »

Hassan beat Ayotte by only 2,000 Votes in 2016 and should easily be the most vulnerable Democrat in 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_Senate_election_in_New_Hampshire

A bit of a false equivalency, as Ayotte was a legitimately popular incumbent at the time.
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« Reply #233 on: November 06, 2021, 05:35:46 PM »

Also if Sununu runs for Senate, NH Dems should see the silver lining, bail on the Senate race completely and instead gun for NH GOV to take away the GOP's trifecta.
They are undedog against Ayott as well

Considering the NHGOP's gerrymander plan I wouldn't be surprised to see Pappas bail on NH-1 and go for Governor. That'd make it a toss-up

Lol Sununu or Ayotte will be Gov come 2023 Chris Pappas won't be abd since when does a 3 to 5 pt lead make you a shoe in, that's margin of error Sununu is leading Hassan bye, that's not a secure spread
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« Reply #234 on: November 06, 2021, 05:41:27 PM »

Hassan beat Ayotte by only 2,000 Votes in 2016 and should easily be the most vulnerable Democrat in 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_Senate_election_in_New_Hampshire

A bit of a false equivalency, as Ayotte was a legitimately popular incumbent at the time.
Not true at all!
Per CNN 2016 Exit Polls Ayotte was viewed 47 % Favorable/50 % Unfavorable
https://edition.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/new-hampshire/senate

So saying Ayotte was popular doesn't pass the smell test here!
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« Reply #235 on: November 06, 2021, 05:44:23 PM »

Also if Sununu runs for Senate, NH Dems should see the silver lining, bail on the Senate race completely and instead gun for NH GOV to take away the GOP's trifecta.
They are undedog against Ayott as well

Considering the NHGOP's gerrymander plan I wouldn't be surprised to see Pappas bail on NH-1 and go for Governor. That'd make it a toss-up

Lol Sununu or Ayotte will be Gov come 2023 Chris Pappas won't be abd since when does a 3 to 5 pt lead make you a shoe in, that's margin of error Sununu is leading Hassan bye, that's not a secure spread
Youngkin won Independent Voters 54-45 on Tuesday. 2022 is all about Independent & Republican Suburban Women I think which the Republican Party got hammered under Trump in 2018 and 2020.

There are signs that they are coming back and if that's the case Democrats facing a bloodbath in 2022.
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« Reply #236 on: November 06, 2021, 05:46:51 PM »

I can’t believe I’m saying this but I think NH is more likely to be R than Georgia
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« Reply #237 on: November 06, 2021, 07:02:40 PM »

Also if Sununu runs for Senate, NH Dems should see the silver lining, bail on the Senate race completely and instead gun for NH GOV to take away the GOP's trifecta.

That's not how it works.
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« Reply #238 on: November 06, 2021, 07:58:03 PM »

Also if Sununu runs for Senate, NH Dems should see the silver lining, bail on the Senate race completely and instead gun for NH GOV to take away the GOP's trifecta.
They are undedog against Ayott as well

Considering the NHGOP's gerrymander plan I wouldn't be surprised to see Pappas bail on NH-1 and go for Governor. That'd make it a toss-up

Lol Sununu or Ayotte will be Gov come 2023 Chris Pappas won't be abd since when does a 3 to 5 pt lead make you a shoe in, that's margin of error Sununu is leading Hassan bye, that's not a secure spread

Pappas has legitimate, proven geographic strength in the Manchester area, owning the most iconic restaurant in the city. Manchester has been very open to voting GOP, voting for Sununu in 2018, but Pappas won his primary in 2018 and the general in 2020 by running ahead in the Manchester area. He came close to matching Shaheen's numbers there.
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« Reply #239 on: November 06, 2021, 08:11:36 PM »

NH-SEN will be the focal point of the internal battle within the GOP.
McConnell will endorse Sununu, Trump will endorse Bolduc. According to Politico Trump DOES NOT like Sununu!
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« Reply #240 on: November 06, 2021, 09:34:32 PM »

Hassan beat Ayotte by only 2,000 Votes in 2016 and should easily be the most vulnerable Democrat in 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_Senate_election_in_New_Hampshire

A bit of a false equivalency, as Ayotte was a legitimately popular incumbent at the time.
Not true at all!
Per CNN 2016 Exit Polls Ayotte was viewed 47 % Favorable/50 % Unfavorable
https://edition.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/new-hampshire/senate

So saying Ayotte was popular doesn't pass the smell test here!

Her approvals were fairly even throughout, as most other polls suggest, and was running even with Hassan on that front. But some Republicans didn't support her because she ran away from Trump.
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« Reply #241 on: November 06, 2021, 09:51:25 PM »

What happened in Virginia must have emboldened him.

This is true, though I think the race would lean toward him even if McAuliffe won in VA. Now he has pretty much nothing to fear if he does make a bid. As for myself I'm on the fence about who to support if he runs. I usually oppose Republicans and Phil Scott and Charlie Baker are more my type, but Sununu doesn't seem too bad, though I wish he'd made NH enter the interstate climate agreement that Baker, Scott and Larry Hogan put their states in.

I'm a moderate Republican who voted for Biden too. But if you're at the point where your heart wants the Democrat to win most of the time, that should tell you that you're not a centrist Republican, you're a centrist Democrat. Sununu is very moderate. Any self-described moderate Republican should support him.
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« Reply #242 on: November 06, 2021, 10:06:36 PM »

What happened in Virginia must have emboldened him.

This is true, though I think the race would lean toward him even if McAuliffe won in VA. Now he has pretty much nothing to fear if he does make a bid. As for myself I'm on the fence about who to support if he runs. I usually oppose Republicans and Phil Scott and Charlie Baker are more my type, but Sununu doesn't seem too bad, though I wish he'd made NH enter the interstate climate agreement that Baker, Scott and Larry Hogan put their states in.

I'm a moderate Republican who voted for Biden too. But if you're at the point where your heart wants the Democrat to win most of the time, that should tell you that you're not a centrist Republican, you're a centrist Democrat. Sununu is very moderate. Any self-described moderate Republican should support him.

>implying he hasn't been a rubber stamp for our legislature
>implying our legislature isn't as right wing as texas
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« Reply #243 on: November 06, 2021, 10:34:13 PM »

It is so weird that if he gets elected, he'll be holding the opposite Senate seat from the one his brother used to hold. There's probably an alternate universe where the NH Senate delegation ends up Sununu and Sununu.
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« Reply #244 on: November 06, 2021, 10:40:32 PM »

It is so weird that if he gets elected, he'll be holding the opposite Senate seat from the one his brother used to hold. There's probably an alternate universe where the NH Senate delegation ends up Sununu and Sununu.

Since when is a 3/4 pt lead secure for Election, it's not, aren't you being presumptuous, Maggie Hassan was trailing Ayotte the weekend before the Election and still won, stop trying to make SUNUNU Senator and he holds such a narrow lead
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« Reply #245 on: November 07, 2021, 12:37:11 AM »

It is so weird that if he gets elected, he'll be holding the opposite Senate seat from the one his brother used to hold. There's probably an alternate universe where the NH Senate delegation ends up Sununu and Sununu.

Since when is a 3/4 pt lead secure for Election, it's not, aren't you being presumptuous, Maggie Hassan was trailing Ayotte the weekend before the Election and still won, stop trying to make SUNUNU Senator and he holds such a narrow lead

Fair enough, good point, my bad.
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« Reply #246 on: November 07, 2021, 04:33:14 AM »

Ayotte was ahead of Hassan on the Final weekend and Lost and Jeanne Shaheen almost lost to Scott Brown, Shaheen had a n easy reelection last time but this is a Marquee matchup

D's need to keep the TRIFECTA to pass DC Statehood, this is our last chance for a generation

What Rs are making their mistake is that Biden didn't win by 60 percent in 202o he won 50/45 and a 304 map is possible still a yr from now Biden is leading in WI and OH and NC are possible with Ryan and Jackson, but NC looks like they're gonna elect that Socialist Beasley and voters will reject her like they are Demings because they remind them of Harris whom can't take care of the border especially in FL
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« Reply #247 on: November 07, 2021, 04:43:15 AM »

It is so weird that if he gets elected, he'll be holding the opposite Senate seat from the one his brother used to hold. There's probably an alternate universe where the NH Senate delegation ends up Sununu and Sununu.

Some people switch seats for various reasons. Off the top of my head, there's Goldwater, Conrad, and Lautenberg.
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« Reply #248 on: November 07, 2021, 09:01:22 AM »

It is so weird that if he gets elected, he'll be holding the opposite Senate seat from the one his brother used to hold. There's probably an alternate universe where the NH Senate delegation ends up Sununu and Sununu.

If Joe Kennedy mk3 had been elected, he would have ended up in the opposite Senate seat of his great-uncles.
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« Reply #249 on: November 07, 2021, 02:45:24 PM »

What happened in Virginia must have emboldened him.

This is true, though I think the race would lean toward him even if McAuliffe won in VA. Now he has pretty much nothing to fear if he does make a bid. As for myself I'm on the fence about who to support if he runs. I usually oppose Republicans and Phil Scott and Charlie Baker are more my type, but Sununu doesn't seem too bad, though I wish he'd made NH enter the interstate climate agreement that Baker, Scott and Larry Hogan put their states in.

I'm a moderate Republican who voted for Biden too. But if you're at the point where your heart wants the Democrat to win most of the time, that should tell you that you're not a centrist Republican, you're a centrist Democrat. Sununu is very moderate. Any self-described moderate Republican should support him.

>implying he hasn't been a rubber stamp for our legislature
>implying our legislature isn't as right wing as texas

That first point might have some merit but honestly, you're either massively exaggerating or delusional if you believe the NH Legislature is nearly as bad as TX's, particularly given the bills the TX legislature's been unleashing recently. To be honest, I think I wouldn't be much farther to the left of the average Republican in NH. NH's Republicans (both voters and legislators) aren't that Trumpish, or at the very least not nearly as Trumpish as the Texan GOP. The TXGOP is one of the worst state Republican parties in some ways - at least if you look at in terms of the power and control they assert and the number of people they get to govern over. The NHGOP is much more moderate.
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