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« Reply #800 on: November 03, 2020, 01:40:12 PM »

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« Reply #801 on: November 03, 2020, 02:28:39 PM »

I've said this before, but when one party is trying to get more valid votes cast and the other is trying to get fewer votes cast, it's obvious which one better represents the people.
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« Reply #802 on: November 03, 2020, 04:22:23 PM »



Feels misleading. This guy's other tweet shows the dude's cert and tries to claim he can watch any ward, but the cert specifies a certain ward (which is what these folks tell him and is conveniently blacked out).

Go ahead and call the police, the poll worker says. Yes, these people are truly attempting to fly under the radar of Law & Order

Can we ban the Rus bot yet?
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« Reply #803 on: November 03, 2020, 04:56:36 PM »

Don't these guys get tired of losing?

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« Reply #804 on: November 04, 2020, 03:45:18 AM »

I've said this before, but when one party is trying to get more valid votes cast and the other is trying to get fewer votes cast, it's obvious which one better represents the people.
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« Reply #805 on: November 04, 2020, 05:17:12 AM »

Pretty clear right now that the biggest voter suppression were the "Free Media" polls and their lies that there "might" be a violence att poll stations etc.


Trump's probably going to lose, but he would certainly be favored, if Free Media wasn't biased.
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« Reply #806 on: November 04, 2020, 04:54:04 PM »





More just acts of desperation, he should just let it go.  PA might have issues, but they aren't going to matter.

I've said this before, but when one party is trying to get more valid votes cast and the other is trying to get fewer votes cast, it's obvious which one better represents the people.
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« Reply #807 on: November 04, 2020, 05:40:13 PM »



More just acts of desperation, he should just let it go.  PA might have issues, but they aren't going to matter.

I've said this before, but when one party is trying to get more valid votes cast and the other is trying to get fewer votes cast, it's obvious which one better represents the people.


He turns into Stacey Abrams. SAD!
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« Reply #808 on: November 04, 2020, 06:37:13 PM »
« Edited: November 04, 2020, 07:52:48 PM by Antifacist Ghost of Ruin »

Some of "King" Donnie's less cowardly nursemaids should explain to him how American elections actually work (along with the fate of law-breaking would-be monarchs).
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« Reply #809 on: November 04, 2020, 06:57:33 PM »

Is it true that there have been more votes turned in in Michigan than registered voters?
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« Reply #810 on: November 04, 2020, 07:08:20 PM »

Is it true that there have been more votes turned in in Michigan than registered voters?

Obviously not.
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« Reply #811 on: November 04, 2020, 07:10:56 PM »

Is it true that there have been more votes turned in in Michigan than registered voters?

LMGTFY:

No.

From the Michigan Voter Information Center: https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/VoterCount

Registered Michigan Voters 8,127,040


From the NY Times result page: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-president.html (click on Michigan):

Biden 2,733,352
Trump 2,629,597

Total of these is about 5.3 million.  This is a LOT less than 8 million.



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« Reply #812 on: November 04, 2020, 08:28:34 PM »

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« Reply #813 on: November 04, 2020, 08:49:22 PM »

I've said this before, but when one party is trying to get more valid votes cast and the other is trying to get fewer votes cast, it's obvious which one better represents the people.

It depends whether you think it's 'valid' to count votes which were posted after the election or not. In Pennsylvania the rules currently allow for this.

"Valid" means in accordance with the rules, not whether you agree with their rules.
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« Reply #814 on: November 04, 2020, 08:57:53 PM »

I've said this before, but when one party is trying to get more valid votes cast and the other is trying to get fewer votes cast, it's obvious which one better represents the people.

It depends whether you think it's 'valid' to count votes which were posted after the election or not. In Pennsylvania the rules currently allow for this.

"Valid" means in accordance with the rules, not whether you agree with their rules.

If we all forget which side of politics which we support, there is no one who actually thinks that being able to vote AFTER election day, is a positive for the integrity of a democratic election.

Which state allows you to cast or mail a vote after Election Day? Votes received afterwards but mailed by Election Day were still cast on time.
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« Reply #815 on: November 04, 2020, 09:09:29 PM »

Popular vote:
Biden 71,355,491 (50.5%)
Trump 67,853,786 (48.0%)
In any other democracy this would be all over. It's only in the US, with its archaic, anti-democratic 18th century electoral system, that a loser like Trump could have even an outside chance of winning.
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« Reply #816 on: November 04, 2020, 09:13:48 PM »

Popular vote:
Biden 71,355,491 (50.5%)
Trump 67,853,786 (48.0%)
In any other democracy this would be all over. It's only in the US, with its archaic, anti-democratic 18th century electoral system, that a loser like Trump could have even an outside chance of winning.

Then why Is Justin Trudeau still prime minister despite losing the popular vote or why did Jacinda Ardern get to be PM despite losing the popular vote by 8 points in 2017
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« Reply #817 on: November 04, 2020, 10:15:36 PM »


My god, giving voters a chance to fix administrative errors? The fiends!
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« Reply #818 on: November 04, 2020, 10:29:58 PM »

Popular vote:
Biden 71,355,491 (50.5%)
Trump 67,853,786 (48.0%)
In any other democracy this would be all over. It's only in the US, with its archaic, anti-democratic 18th century electoral system, that a loser like Trump could have even an outside chance of winning.

Then why Is Justin Trudeau still prime minister despite losing the popular vote or why did Jacinda Ardern get to be PM despite losing the popular vote by 8 points in 2017

That's a different problem, which the US can have too. Paul Ryan got to stay Speaker after 2012 despite losing the House popular vote. And of course the Senate is epic fail for matching the popular vote.
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« Reply #819 on: November 04, 2020, 10:33:06 PM »

Also, not a 1 to 1 comparison, as Canada has three viable left wing parties competing for votes with each other  (well two, plus BQ in Quebec).
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« Reply #820 on: November 04, 2020, 10:52:25 PM »
« Edited: November 04, 2020, 11:04:57 PM by Antifacist Ghost of Ruin »




Note that no matter what Donnie Dumb**** or his criminal lackeys or stacked courts claim, this would be very clearly illegal:
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« Reply #821 on: November 04, 2020, 11:25:42 PM »

es, we have had several Australian elections in which the party winning the most votes didn't win the most seats. But that's in a parliamentary system, which is not a single election, but (in case of the House of Reps) 151 separate elections, one in each seat. In each of those elections the winning candidate must poll a majority of votes. It's not possible to design a parliamentary system in which the party polling the most votes is guaranteed to win the most seats. But in a presidential election, there is only one election - a national choice between two individuals. Basic democratic principle says that the candidate with a majority of votes should win. Only in the US is this distorted by a requirement to win separate majorities in the states.
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« Reply #822 on: November 04, 2020, 11:30:43 PM »

The 55 wealthy men who wrote the Constitution were not democrats. They deliberately designed a system that put filters between the people and the presidency. (Not to mention that 25 of them owned slaves.)
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« Reply #823 on: November 04, 2020, 11:32:45 PM »




I'm starting to think that Republicans call themselves that because they want to see American follow the same trajectory as it's Roman predecessor.
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« Reply #824 on: November 05, 2020, 04:46:48 AM »

Trump needs to do something extremely petty if he thinks he was cheated. Drop a few secret documents about aliens via twitter or something.
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