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« Reply #3075 on: June 06, 2020, 06:07:49 PM »
« edited: June 06, 2020, 06:13:59 PM by money printer go brrr »

I was a supporter of the restrictions, but the political motivations and double standards of these "experts" has resulted in me cutting my support. I don't want to hear any more "6 ft apart" or "wear a mask". I will be doing neither. F*** you and your agenda.

Sorry but that's an incredibly embarrassing reason to stop supporting restrictions.
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« Reply #3076 on: June 06, 2020, 06:15:54 PM »

I was a supporter of the restrictions, but the political motivations and double standards of these "experts" has resulted in me cutting my support. I don't want to hear any more "6 ft apart" or "wear a mask". I will be doing neither. F*** you and your agenda.

Sorry but that's an incredibly embarrassing reason to stop supporting restrictions.

That's basically the anti-lockdown protests in summation.
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« Reply #3077 on: June 06, 2020, 06:23:39 PM »

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 6/6 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

Δ Change: Day-by-day Growth or Decline or COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.
  • IE: Are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.
  • IE: What's the overall change in the total?

<Last Numbers for 3/26-3/28 in this Post>
<Last Numbers for 3/29-4/4 in this Post>
<Last Numbers for 4/5-4/11 in this Post>
<Last Numbers for 4/12-4/18 in this Post>
<Last Numbers for 4/19-4/25 in this post>
<Last Numbers for 4/26-5/2 in this post>
<Last Numbers for 5/3-5/9 in this post>
<Last Numbers for 5/10-5/16 in this post>
<Last Numbers for 5/17-5/23 in this post>

5/24: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 1,686,436 (+19,608 | Δ Change: ↓9.78% | Σ Increase: ↑1.18%)
  • Deaths: 99,300 (+617 | Δ Change: ↓40.44% | Σ Increase: ↑0.63%)

5/25:
  • Cases: 1,706,224 (+19,788 | Δ Change: ↑0.92% | Σ Increase: ↑1.17%)
  • Deaths: 99,805 (+505 | Δ Change: ↓18.15% | Σ Increase: ↑0.51%)

5/26:
  • Cases: 1,725,141 (+18,917 | Δ Change: ↓4.40% | Σ Increase: ↑1.11%)
  • Deaths: 100,579 (+774 | Δ Change: ↑53.27% | Σ Increase: ↑0.78%)

5/27:
  • Cases: 1,745,803 (+20,662 | Δ Change: ↑9.22% | Σ Increase: ↑1.20%)
  • Deaths: 102,107 (+1,528 | Δ Change: ↑97.42% | Σ Increase: ↑1.52%)

5/28:
  • Cases: 1,768,461 (+22,658 | Δ Change: ↑9.66% | Σ Increase: ↑1.30%)
  • Deaths: 103,330 (+1,223 | Δ Change: ↓19.96% | Σ Increase: ↑1.20%)

5/29:
  • Cases: 1,793,530 (+25,069 | Δ Change: ↑10.64% | Σ Increase: ↑1.42%)
  • Deaths: 104,542 (+1,212 | Δ Change: ↓0.90% | Σ Increase: ↑1.17%)

5/30:
  • Cases: 1,816,820 (+23,290 | Δ Change: ↓7.10% | Σ Increase: ↑1.30%)
  • Deaths: 105,557 (+1,015 | Δ Change: ↓16.25% | Σ Increase: ↑0.97%)

5/31: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 1,837,165 (+20,345 | Δ Change: ↓12.65% | Σ Increase: ↑1.12%)
  • Deaths: 106,190 (+633 | Δ Change: ↓37.64% | Σ Increase: ↑0.60%)

6/1:
  • Cases: 1,859,323 (+22,158 | Δ Change: ↑8.91% | Σ Increase: ↑1.21%)
  • Deaths: 106,925 (+735 | Δ Change: ↑16.11% | Σ Increase: ↑0.69%)

6/2:
  • Cases: 1,881,205 (+21,882 | Δ Change: ↓1.25% | Σ Increase: ↑1.18%)
  • Deaths: 108,059 (+1,134 | Δ Change: ↑54.29% | Σ Increase: ↑1.06%)

6/3:
  • Cases: 1,901,783 (+20,578 | Δ Change: ↓5.96% | Σ Increase: ↑1.09%)
  • Deaths: 109,142 (+1,083 | Δ Change: ↓4.50% | Σ Increase: ↑1.00%)

6/4:
  • Cases: 1,924,051 (+22,268 | Δ Change: ↑8.21% | Σ Increase: ↑1.17%)
  • Deaths: 110,173 (+1,031 | Δ Change: ↓4.80% | Σ Increase: ↑0.94%)

6/5 (Yesterday):
  • Cases: 1,953,423 (+29,372 | Δ Change: ↑31.90% | Σ Increase: ↑1.53%)
  • Deaths: 111,384 (+1,211 | Δ Change: ↑17.46% | Σ Increase: ↑1.10%)

6/6 (Today):
  • Cases: 1,987,175 (+33,752 | Δ Change: ↑14.91% | Σ Increase: ↑1.73%)
  • Deaths: 112,057 (+673 | Δ Change: ↓44.43% | Σ Increase: ↑0.60%)
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« Reply #3078 on: June 06, 2020, 06:25:36 PM »

At my job today, I had a maskless customer who told us that employees should not be wearing masks anymore, as a return to normalcy.

I think a lot of people out there consider masking to be a reminder of how bad things were, and they want to put it behind them.

In other words, they're snowflakes.  It's reprehensible to be against other people choosing not to risk their health just because they don't want to be reminded of the virus.  It's not over!
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« Reply #3079 on: June 06, 2020, 06:28:54 PM »

Those new case numbers:

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« Reply #3080 on: June 06, 2020, 06:42:53 PM »

Where did this 33,000 business come from? The site right now has 21,000.
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« Reply #3081 on: June 06, 2020, 06:43:52 PM »

I was a supporter of the restrictions, but the political motivations and double standards of these "experts" has resulted in me cutting my support. I don't want to hear any more "6 ft apart" or "wear a mask". I will be doing neither. F*** you and your agenda.
See liberals?
This is why you don’t break your own advise during a goddamn pandemic. Now reasonable people are doing unreasonable things because you had to go smash windows.
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« Reply #3082 on: June 06, 2020, 06:51:30 PM »

In other words, they're snowflakes.  It's reprehensible to be against other people choosing not to risk their health just because they don't want to be reminded of the virus.  It's not over!

Well, I can't stop someone from masking up. But a lot of people see it and it really hurts morale.
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« Reply #3083 on: June 06, 2020, 06:54:49 PM »

In other words, they're snowflakes.  It's reprehensible to be against other people choosing not to risk their health just because they don't want to be reminded of the virus.  It's not over!

Well, I can't stop someone from masking up. But a lot of people see it and it really hurts morale.

Morale? Who cares about that?
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« Reply #3084 on: June 06, 2020, 06:56:24 PM »

I was a supporter of the restrictions, but the political motivations and double standards of these "experts" has resulted in me cutting my support. I don't want to hear any more "6 ft apart" or "wear a mask". I will be doing neither. F*** you and your agenda.

If someone's apathetic like you, ok fine get all in their face. But if they've got a mask and/or are trying to keep their distance, please be respectful of that.
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« Reply #3085 on: June 06, 2020, 07:04:29 PM »

In other words, they're snowflakes.  It's reprehensible to be against other people choosing not to risk their health just because they don't want to be reminded of the virus.  It's not over!

Well, I can't stop someone from masking up. But a lot of people see it and it really hurts morale.
It also hurts morale to kill granny.
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« Reply #3086 on: June 06, 2020, 07:07:06 PM »

I was a supporter of the restrictions, but the political motivations and double standards of these "experts" has resulted in me cutting my support. I don't want to hear any more "6 ft apart" or "wear a mask". I will be doing neither. F*** you and your agenda.

Sorry but that's an incredibly embarrassing reason to stop supporting restrictions.
He has a point. The sheer amount of hypocrisy is outrageous and astounding.
I am outraged at all sides at this point, it’s clear saving lives doesn’t matter to anyone in America, and just like the Pro-life GOPers are hypocrites, the Black Lives Matter rioters are hypocrites for going into large crowds during a pandemic that has killed 23k of the lives that matter.

I think Grassroots is being hasty and is acting irrational right now, but he has a good point. When will other Democrats denounce these protests as what they are,  intentional spreading of a deadly disease?
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« Reply #3087 on: June 06, 2020, 07:19:10 PM »

I was a supporter of the restrictions, but the political motivations and double standards of these "experts" has resulted in me cutting my support. I don't want to hear any more "6 ft apart" or "wear a mask". I will be doing neither. F*** you and your agenda.

Sorry but that's an incredibly embarrassing reason to stop supporting restrictions.
He has a point. The sheer amount of hypocrisy is outrageous and astounding.
I am outraged at all sides at this point, it’s clear saving lives doesn’t matter to anyone in America, and just like the Pro-life GOPers are hypocrites, the Black Lives Matter rioters are hypocrites for going into large crowds during a pandemic that has killed 23k of the lives that matter.

I think Grassroots is being hasty and is acting irrational right now, but he has a good point. When will other Democrats denounce these protests as what they are,  intentional spreading of a deadly disease?

It looks to me like almost everyone at these protests is wearing a mask.



And in any case, it is not hypocritical to make a conscious decision that certain causes or principles are worth risking your life over.
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« Reply #3088 on: June 06, 2020, 07:21:46 PM »

I went to one of the protests in Cincinnati last Sunday. I didn't mask up though. There were plenty of other maskless people.
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« Reply #3089 on: June 06, 2020, 07:26:58 PM »
« Edited: June 06, 2020, 07:30:44 PM by Arch »

Where did this 33,000 business come from? The site right now has 21,000.

I ran yesterday's numbers at the same time to today's. Their totals are usually cut off at different times, and sometimes they edit the numbers for days that had already been accounted for, artificially inflating or deflating the current day's count, which makes it difficult to track.

Doing what I'm doing keeps the numbers stable and avoids the downsides of their glitches. All of my numbers are available from the day that I started counting. If there's any miscalculation in them, please let me know, and I'll fix it.
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« Reply #3090 on: June 06, 2020, 07:28:55 PM »

I was a supporter of the restrictions, but the political motivations and double standards of these "experts" has resulted in me cutting my support. I don't want to hear any more "6 ft apart" or "wear a mask". I will be doing neither. F*** you and your agenda.

Sorry but that's an incredibly embarrassing reason to stop supporting restrictions.
He has a point. The sheer amount of hypocrisy is outrageous and astounding.
I am outraged at all sides at this point, it’s clear saving lives doesn’t matter to anyone in America, and just like the Pro-life GOPers are hypocrites, the Black Lives Matter rioters are hypocrites for going into large crowds during a pandemic that has killed 23k of the lives that matter.

I think Grassroots is being hasty and is acting irrational right now, but he has a good point. When will other Democrats denounce these protests as what they are,  intentional spreading of a deadly disease?

It looks to me like almost everyone at these protests is wearing a mask.



And in any case, it is not hypocritical to make a conscious decision that certain causes or principles are worth risking your life over.
Wearing a mask can only help so much when you are literally screaming at the top of your lungs while standing shoulder-to-shoulder in a cramped formation of thousands.

And sure, risking your life for a cause you believe in is wonderful, but this is going to kill hundreds-thousands of people who simply weren’t involved, who didn’t get that choice.

Keep in mind 23,000 black lives have been lost from this virus. Why are these protestors exacerbating a pandemic which is killing nearly 100x more black Americans in 2.5 months than the police do in a year?
Either these protestors are hypocritical, don’t really care about black lives and just want an excuse to say “guvment bad”, or are ignorant.
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« Reply #3091 on: June 06, 2020, 07:32:52 PM »

Where did this 33,000 business come from? The site right now has 21,000.

I ran yesterday's numbers at the same time to today's. Their totals are usually cut off at different times, and sometimes they edit the numbers for days that had already been accounted for, artificially inflating or deflating the current day's count, which makes it difficult to track.

Doing what I'm doing keeps the numbers stable and avoids the downsides of their glitches. All of my numbers are available from the day that I started counting. If there's any miscalculation in them, please let me know, and I'll fix it.

The only thing I can think of is that some antibody tests came back which aren't assigned to any specific day.
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« Reply #3092 on: June 06, 2020, 07:34:07 PM »

And sure, risking your life for a cause you believe in is wonderful, but this is going to kill hundreds-thousands of people who simply weren’t involved, who didn’t get that choice.

Maybe but I'm not sure we we can be confident it will be that high.
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« Reply #3093 on: June 06, 2020, 07:35:11 PM »

Where did this 33,000 business come from? The site right now has 21,000.

I ran yesterday's numbers at the same time to today's. Their totals are usually cut off at different times, and sometimes they edit the numbers for days that had already been accounted for, artificially inflating or deflating the current day's count, which makes it difficult to track.

Doing what I'm doing keeps the numbers stable and avoids the downsides of their glitches. All of my numbers are available from the day that I started counting. If there's any miscalculation in them, please let me know, and I'll fix it.

The only thing I can think of is that some antibody tests came back which aren't assigned to any specific day.

That could be it, but we just don't know. The quality of the output is only as good as the data that we have to begin with (TI/TO).
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« Reply #3094 on: June 06, 2020, 07:38:31 PM »

I was a supporter of the restrictions, but the political motivations and double standards of these "experts" has resulted in me cutting my support. I don't want to hear any more "6 ft apart" or "wear a mask". I will be doing neither. F*** you and your agenda.

Sorry but that's an incredibly embarrassing reason to stop supporting restrictions.

I was quite proud to discover that my Perth community protested with both masks and social distancing in effect.

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« Reply #3095 on: June 06, 2020, 07:41:20 PM »

I see that the epicenter of the pandemic is moving from the Rust Belt to the Sun Belt. New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Michigan, are receding, while there are big spikes in cases in Texas, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona, and California.
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« Reply #3096 on: June 06, 2020, 07:53:22 PM »

I was a supporter of the restrictions, but the political motivations and double standards of these "experts" has resulted in me cutting my support. I don't want to hear any more "6 ft apart" or "wear a mask". I will be doing neither. F*** you and your agenda.

Sorry but that's an incredibly embarrassing reason to stop supporting restrictions.
He has a point. The sheer amount of hypocrisy is outrageous and astounding.
I am outraged at all sides at this point, it’s clear saving lives doesn’t matter to anyone in America, and just like the Pro-life GOPers are hypocrites, the Black Lives Matter rioters are hypocrites for going into large crowds during a pandemic that has killed 23k of the lives that matter.

I think Grassroots is being hasty and is acting irrational right now, but he has a good point. When will other Democrats denounce these protests as what they are,  intentional spreading of a deadly disease?

It looks to me like almost everyone at these protests is wearing a mask.



And in any case, it is not hypocritical to make a conscious decision that certain causes or principles are worth risking your life over.
Wearing a mask can only help so much when you are literally screaming at the top of your lungs while standing shoulder-to-shoulder in a cramped formation of thousands.

And sure, risking your life for a cause you believe in is wonderful, but this is going to kill hundreds-thousands of people who simply weren’t involved, who didn’t get that choice.

Keep in mind 23,000 black lives have been lost from this virus. Why are these protestors exacerbating a pandemic which is killing nearly 100x more black Americans in 2.5 months than the police do in a year?
Either these protestors are hypocritical, don’t really care about black lives and just want an excuse to say “guvment bad”, or are ignorant.

FYI: Snarking about people being forced to make Sophie's Choice is a really vile take.
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« Reply #3097 on: June 06, 2020, 09:05:02 PM »

At my job today, I had a maskless customer who told us that employees should not be wearing masks anymore, as a return to normalcy.

I think a lot of people out there consider masking to be a reminder of how bad things were, and they want to put it behind them.

This is certainly true, but there are also many who have believed this entire time that the entire pandemic was a hoax, and that masks have been used as an instrument of control by the "experts", Democrats, the media, and the Deep State. Ironically though, I saw a customer at the grocery store near my job who was wearing a mask and a Trump hat. So clearly, some Trump supporters have been heeding the advice of medical experts and are taking things seriously. This may help to explain why Trump's approvals have taken a hit recently.
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« Reply #3098 on: June 06, 2020, 10:48:03 PM »

And in any case, it is not hypocritical to make a conscious decision that certain causes or principles are worth risking your life over.

Yeah, like going to church?
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« Reply #3099 on: June 06, 2020, 11:16:05 PM »
« Edited: June 06, 2020, 11:19:21 PM by Green Line »

I have to apologize for ever doubting the sincerity of forumlurker.  I was, and still am, disgusted at the sacrifice of civil liberties over a moderately severe virus.  However, at least he stands by his convictions. It is truly amazing to see all of the liberals here and elsewhere that were crying out in outrage when conservatives picketed outside the Michigan state capitol now disappear.  They were committing mass murder back then for going outside!  The silence during the last week and a half of the riots/protests is truly deafening.  I now know I was right to doubt the intentions of so many “stay inside” people.  Don’t ever act like you care about the public health at this point.  We will never trust you again.
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