Kansas Megathread: Kobach and Kelly and Orman, Oh My!

[Zaybay]

Kelly needs to encourage Orman to drop out and be a running mate on a unity ticket of sorts.

Seriously, if I was Orman I'd jump at the opportunity. This is by far the best chance he has for statewide office.

He's a moderate independent rich guy. He is absolutely full of himself.

I am reminded of the constant humility shown by ACO and Bernie Sanders.

Those two are not that full of themselves. Helping other candidates and campaigning doesnt make you full of themselves. Running an indie campaign in a state where your aligned party would win, such as Indie Con Trillo in RI, or Orman in KS, is being full of yourself.

[smoltchanov]

Kelly needs to encourage Orman to drop out and be a running mate on a unity ticket of sorts.

Seriously, if I was Orman I'd jump at the opportunity. This is by far the best chance he has for statewide office.

He's a moderate independent rich guy. He is absolutely full of himself.

I am reminded of the constant humility shown by ACO and Bernie Sanders.

Those two are not that full of themselves. Helping other candidates and campaigning doesnt make you full of themselves. Running an indie campaign in a state where your aligned party would win, such as Indie Con Trillo in RI, or Orman in KS, is being full of yourself.

IMHO - they are. Imagine himself as Kingmakers, and trying to play this role, is (especially in case of AOC, who is nobody yet) exactly that.

[Zaybay]

Kelly needs to encourage Orman to drop out and be a running mate on a unity ticket of sorts.

Seriously, if I was Orman I'd jump at the opportunity. This is by far the best chance he has for statewide office.

He's a moderate independent rich guy. He is absolutely full of himself.

I am reminded of the constant humility shown by ACO and Bernie Sanders.

Those two are not that full of themselves. Helping other candidates and campaigning doesnt make you full of themselves. Running an indie campaign in a state where your aligned party would win, such as Indie Con Trillo in RI, or Orman in KS, is being full of yourself.

IMHO - they are. Imagine himself as Kingmakers, and trying to play this role, is (especially in case of AOC, who is nobody yet) exactly that.

Kingmaker? Of what? Who have they played kingmaker for? All Ive seen them do is campaign and endorse candidates, which is what Harris, Biden, Booker, and Gillibrand have done.

Name one race that they played kingmaker for.

[smoltchanov]

Kelly needs to encourage Orman to drop out and be a running mate on a unity ticket of sorts.

Seriously, if I was Orman I'd jump at the opportunity. This is by far the best chance he has for statewide office.

He's a moderate independent rich guy. He is absolutely full of himself.

I am reminded of the constant humility shown by ACO and Bernie Sanders.

Those two are not that full of themselves. Helping other candidates and campaigning doesnt make you full of themselves. Running an indie campaign in a state where your aligned party would win, such as Indie Con Trillo in RI, or Orman in KS, is being full of yourself.

IMHO - they are. Imagine himself as Kingmakers, and trying to play this role, is (especially in case of AOC, who is nobody yet) exactly that.

Kingmaker? Of what? Who have they played kingmaker for? All Ive seen them do is campaign and endorse candidates, which is what Harris, Biden, Booker, and Gillibrand have done.

Name one race that they played kingmaker for.

They behave identically with Harris, Biden and so on. I understand that in Sanders case, But repeat - AOC is a nobody (future congresswoman from 1 of 435 districts), and behaves identically. As if HER personal support matters something...

[Zaybay]

Kelly needs to encourage Orman to drop out and be a running mate on a unity ticket of sorts.

Seriously, if I was Orman I'd jump at the opportunity. This is by far the best chance he has for statewide office.

He's a moderate independent rich guy. He is absolutely full of himself.

I am reminded of the constant humility shown by ACO and Bernie Sanders.

Those two are not that full of themselves. Helping other candidates and campaigning doesnt make you full of themselves. Running an indie campaign in a state where your aligned party would win, such as Indie Con Trillo in RI, or Orman in KS, is being full of yourself.

IMHO - they are. Imagine himself as Kingmakers, and trying to play this role, is (especially in case of AOC, who is nobody yet) exactly that.

Kingmaker? Of what? Who have they played kingmaker for? All Ive seen them do is campaign and endorse candidates, which is what Harris, Biden, Booker, and Gillibrand have done.

Name one race that they played kingmaker for.

They behave identically with Harris, Biden and so on. I understand that in Sanders case, But repeat - AOC is a nobody (future congresswoman from 1 of 435 districts), and behaves identically. As if HER personal support matters something...

I would like to remind you that Seth Moulton, Tim Ryan, and Joe Kennedy have done the same thing. If people want her endorsement, then she is allowed to endorse, nothing wrong with that.

[Shameless Lefty Hack]

Kelly needs to encourage Orman to drop out and be a running mate on a unity ticket of sorts.

Seriously, if I was Orman I'd jump at the opportunity. This is by far the best chance he has for statewide office.

He's a moderate independent rich guy. He is absolutely full of himself.

I am reminded of the constant humility shown by ACO and Bernie Sanders.

Those two are not that full of themselves. Helping other candidates and campaigning doesnt make you full of themselves. Running an indie campaign in a state where your aligned party would win, such as Indie Con Trillo in RI, or Orman in KS, is being full of yourself.

IMHO - they are. Imagine himself as Kingmakers, and trying to play this role, is (especially in case of AOC, who is nobody yet) exactly that.

Kingmaker? Of what? Who have they played kingmaker for? All Ive seen them do is campaign and endorse candidates, which is what Harris, Biden, Booker, and Gillibrand have done.

Name one race that they played kingmaker for.

They behave identically with Harris, Biden and so on. I understand that in Sanders case, But repeat - AOC is a nobody (future congresswoman from 1 of 435 districts), and behaves identically. As if HER personal support matters something...

I would like to remind you that Seth Moulton, Tim Ryan, and Joe Kennedy have done the same thing. If people want her endorsement, then she is allowed to endorse, nothing wrong with that.

Engaging with Smoltchanov is never worth it, man. It's just not.

[tmthforu94]

Quit hijacking my state’s thread. We don’t get attention that often so I’d like for this to stay focused on what’s actually happening in Kansas.

[Chief Justice Keef]

Kelly needs to encourage Orman to drop out and be a running mate on a unity ticket of sorts.

Seriously, if I was Orman I'd jump at the opportunity. This is by far the best chance he has for statewide office.

He's a moderate independent rich guy. He is absolutely full of himself.

I am reminded of the constant humility shown by ACO and Bernie Sanders.

Those two are not that full of themselves. Helping other candidates and campaigning doesnt make you full of themselves. Running an indie campaign in a state where your aligned party would win, such as Indie Con Trillo in RI, or Orman in KS, is being full of yourself.

IMHO - they are. Imagine himself as Kingmakers, and trying to play this role, is (especially in case of AOC, who is nobody yet) exactly that.

Kingmaker? Of what? Who have they played kingmaker for? All Ive seen them do is campaign and endorse candidates, which is what Harris, Biden, Booker, and Gillibrand have done.

Name one race that they played kingmaker for.

They behave identically with Harris, Biden and so on. I understand that in Sanders case, But repeat - AOC is a nobody (future congresswoman from 1 of 435 districts), and behaves identically. As if HER personal support matters something...

Do you suffer from AOC Derangement Syndrome?

[Shameless Lefty Hack]

Quit hijacking my state’s thread. We don’t get attention that often so I’d like for this to stay focused on what’s actually happening in Kansas.

^ yeah, I'm actually quite interested in the recount lol.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Quit hijacking my state’s thread. We don’t get attention that often so I’d like for this to stay focused on what’s actually happening in Kansas.

You could report their posts for derailing the thread.  The mods on this board are pretty good about handling that when it happens.  (I have smoltchanov on ignore so I'm not seeing a lot of it.  This is a good idea too.)

[smoltchanov]

I would like to remind you that Seth Moulton, Tim Ryan, and Joe Kennedy have done the same thing. If people want her endorsement, then she is allowed to endorse, nothing wrong with that.

Of course she is allowed. But, as i said, she is not Joseph Biden, Bernie Sanders or even Seth Mouton now...

Do you suffer from AOC Derangement Syndrome?

No, i simply strongly dislike her. But i agree with what's said above - let's return to Kansas, and it's politics...

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

This is chaos that will help flip the state to the Dems in November.

[Progressive Pessimist]

This isn’t pure speculation at this point, but I saw a former KS GOP official say that a majority of provisional ballots are people who thought there were registered GOP but were listed unaffiliated when they showed up. These votes are usually counted and then registered as GOP. I would imagine these voters would lean towards Colyer pretty heavily since they’re more likely to be moderate, and thus this is why a lot in the Colyer camp are confident they’ll take the lead back on Monday.

Watch Kobach argue they shouldn’t be counted.

I guarantee that he will.

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/BryanLowry3/status/1028872676524347392

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/BryanLowry3/status/1028872676524347392

Court challenge in 3...2...1...

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

https://twitter.com/BryanLowry3/status/1028872676524347392

Court challenge in 3...2...1...

[smoltchanov]

https://twitter.com/BryanLowry3/status/1028872676524347392

Court challenge in 3...2...1...

Guys, anyone expected something different from Kobach appointee?

[KingSweden]

Quit hijacking my state’s thread. We don’t get attention that often so I’d like for this to stay focused on what’s actually happening in Kansas.

^ yeah, I'm actually quite interested in the recount lol.

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/BryanLowry3/status/1029006017630285824

[tmthforu94]

https://twitter.com/BryanLowry3/status/1028872676524347392

Court challenge in 3...2...1...

Yeah, Colyer's legal counsel has already issued a statement saying they disagree with this. Obviously politics are at play - everyone knows that Colyer would benefit if the votes ARE counted, Kobach if they are NOT.

Just to give everyone an idea on how close this race is, if JoCo's provisional ballots break as the county has votes, the margin would narrow to 39 votes statewide.

[DINGO Joe]

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Just to give everyone an idea on how close this race is, if JoCo's provisional ballots break as the county has votes, the margin would narrow to 39 votes statewide.

Well, if Sedgewick's did the same, then Kobach's lead would grow and Sedgewick actually has more provisionals, despite being a smaller county.

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/BryanLowry3/status/1029016458364375040

[DINGO Joe]

https://twitter.com/BryanLowry3/status/1029016458364375040

Just for reference JoCo started with 1821 provisionals so they'll be counting 64.5% of the provisionals

Sedgwick is starting with 1900 provisionals

[smoltchanov]

^ IIUC - reasons why provisionals must be "more liberal", then ED voting apply to Sedgwick to? No?

[DINGO Joe]

^ IIUC - reasons why provisionals must be "more liberal", then ED voting apply to Sedgwick to? No?

They may be more Dem than election day, but how they break within the Rs is an open question.