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« Reply #700 on: February 27, 2019, 11:40:34 PM »
1945-1953: Thomas Dewey
1953-1961: Adlai Stevenson
1961-1969: Nelson Rockefeller
1969-1977: Eugene McCarthy
1977-1981: Barry Goldwater
1981-1989: Paul Sarbanes
1989-1993: Howell Heflin
1993-2001: Al D'Amato
2001-2009: Bob Kerrey
2009-2017: John McCain
2017-Present: Joe Lieberman
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« Reply #701 on: February 28, 2019, 02:12:16 PM »
Constitutional Convention Ends In Havoc; Elective Constitutional Monarchy Established
Age Limit for Prime Minister is 25

KINGS
1. George Washington (1787-1799, from Virginia)
2. Thomas Jefferson (1799-1826, from Virginia)
3. William I Henry Harrison (1826-1841, from Ohio)
4. Henry Clay (1841-1852, from Kentucky)
5. Winfield Scott (1852-1866, from New Jersey)
6. Abraham Lincoln (1866-1882, from Illinois)
7. Stephen Grover Cleveland (1882-1908, from New York)
8. William II Jennings Bryan (1908-1925, from Nebraska)
9. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1925-1945, from New York)
10. Harry S Truman (1945-1972, from Missouri)
11. Hubert H. Humphrey (1972-1978, from Minnesota)
12. James E. Carter (1978-Present, from Georgia)

PRIME MINISTERS
(key: Federalist Democratic-Republican Democratic Republican)
*: assassinated /: died of NC ^: elected king

1. John Adams (1789-1797, from Massachusetts)
2. Thomas Jefferson (1797-1799, from Virginia)^
3. James Madison (1799-1801, from Virginia)
4. Charles Cotesworth Pinckney (1801-1805, from South Carolina)
5. James Monroe (1805-1813, from Virginia)
6. DeWitt Clinton (1813-1821, from New York)
7. John Quincy Adams (1821-1829, from Massachusetts)
8. Andrew Jackson (1829-1841, from Tennessee)
9. Daniel Webster (1841-1849, from Massachusetts)
10. Zachary Taylor (1849-1850, from Louisiana)/
11. Millard Fillmore (1850-1853, from New York)
12. John Fremont (1853-1859, from California)*
13. Lewis Campbell (1859-1861, from Ohio)
14. Abraham Lincoln (1861-1865, from Illinois)
15. George McClellan (1865-1869, from New Jersey)
16. Ulysses S. Grant (1869-1877, from Illinois)
17. Samuel J. Tilden (1877-1881, from New York)
18. James A. Garfield (1881, from Ohio)*
19. Chester A. Arthur (1881-1885, from New York)
20. James G. Blaine (1885-1889, from Maine)
21. William Jennings Bryan (1889-1901, from Nebraska)
22. Alton Parker (1901-1905, from New York)
23. Theodore Roosevelt (1905-1917, from New York)
24. Charles Evans Hughes (1917-1921, from New York)
25. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1921-1925, from New York)
26. Herbert Hoover (1925-1929, from California)
27. John Nance Garner (1929-1937, from Texas)
28. Thomas Dewey (1937-1941, from New York)
29. Harry S Truman (1941-1945, from Missouri)^
30. Adlai Stevenson II (1945-1949, from Illinois)
31. Dwight D. Eisenhower (1949-1961, from New York)
32. John F. Kennedy (1961-1963, from Massachusetts)*
33. Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-1969, from Texas)
34. Richard M. Nixon (1969-1981, from California)
35. Walter Mondale (1981-1985, from Minnesota)
36. Ronald Reagan (1985-1993, from California)
37. Bill Clinton (1993-2005, from Arkansas)
38. George W. Bush (2005-2013, from Texas)
39. Willard Mitt Romney (2013-2017, from Massachusetts)
40. Barack Obama (2017-present, from Illinois)

DEPUTY PRIME MINISTERS (appointed by Prime Ministers)
^: elevated to PM (all others the same)

1. Thomas Pinckney (1789-1797, from South Carolina)
2. James Madison (1797-1799, from Virginia)^
3. James Monroe (1799-1801, from Virginia)
4. Rufus King (1801-1805, from New York)
5. George Clinton (1805-1812, from New York)/
6. Elbridge Gerry (1812-1813, from Massachusetts)
7. Jared Ingersoll (1813-1821, from Pennsylvania)
8. Richard Rush (1821-1829, from Pennsylvania)
9. John C. Calhoun (1829-1833, from South Carolina)
10. Martin van Buren (1833-1841, from New York)
11. John Tyler (1841-1849, from Virginia)
12. Millard Fillmore (1849-1850, from New York)^
13. Charles Francis Adams (1850-1853, from Massachusetts)
14. Lewis Campbell (1853-1859, from Ohio)^
15. William Pennington (1859-1861, from New Jersey)
16. Hannibal Hamlin (1861-1865, from Maine)
17. George Pendleton (1865-1869, from Ohio)
18. Schuyler Colfax (1869-1873, from Indiana)
19. Henry Wilson (1873-1875, from Massachusetts)/
20. William Wheeler (1875-1877, from New York)
21. Thomas Hendricks (1877-1881, from Indiana)
22. Chester A. Arthur (1881, from New York)^
23. John Sherman (1881-1885, from Ohio)
24. John Logan (1885-1886, from Illinois)/
25. George Edmunds (1886-1889, from Vermont)
26. Adlai Stevenson I (1889-1897, from Illinois)
27. Arthur Sewall (1897-1900, from Maine)/
28. Thomas Watson (1900-1901, from Georgia)
29. Henry G. Davis (1901-1905, from West Virginia)
30. Charles Fairbanks (1905-1918, from Indiana)/
31. Warren G. Harding (1918-1921, from Ohio)
32. James M. Cox (1921-1925, from Ohio)
33. Charles Curtis (1925-1929, from Kansas)
34. Al Smith (1929-1937, from New York)
35. Alf Landon (1937-1941, from Kansas)
36. Adlai Stevenson II (1941-1945, from Illinois)^
37. Alben Barkley (1945-1949, from Kentucky)
38. Earl Warren (1949-1961, from California)
39. Lyndon B. Johnson (1961-1963, from Texas)^
40. Hubert H. Humphrey (1963-1969, from Minnesota)
41. Spiro T. Agnew (1969-1973, from Maryland)
42. Gerald R. Ford (1973-1977, from Michigan)
43. Bob Dole (1977-1981, from Kansas)
44. Geraldine Ferraro (1981-1985, from New York)
45. George H. W. Bush (1985-1993, from Texas)
46. Al Gore (1993-2005, from Tennessee)
47. Dick Cheney (2005-2013, from Wyoming)
48. Paul Ryan (2013-2017, from Wisconsin)
49. Tim Kaine (2017-present, from Virginia)

FAILED CANDIDATES

ROYAL
1787: None
1799: John Adams
1826: Andrew Jackson
1841: Martin van Buren
1852: Franklin Pierce from New Hampshire
1866: George McClellan
1882: James G. Blaine
1908: Theodore Roosevelt
1925: Herbert Hoover
1945: Thomas Dewey
1972: Richard Nixon
1978: Bob Dole

PRIME MINISTERIAL (additional specifications only added for those not mentioned before)
1789/1792: Thomas Jefferson
1796: John Adams
1800/1812: James Madison
1804: Charles Cotesworth Pinckney
1808: Rufus King
1816: Daniel D. Tompkins from New York
1820: William Crawford from Georgia
1824: Andrew Jackson
1828: Richard Rush
1832: John Sergeant from Pennsylvania
1836: Hugh White from Tennessee
1840/1844: Martin van Buren
1848: Lewis Cass from Michigan
1852/1856: James Buchanan from Pennsylvania
1860: Stephen Douglas from Illinois
1864: Abraham Lincoln
1868: George McClellan
1872: Horatio Seymour from New York
1876: Rutherford B. Hayes from Ohio
1880: Winfield Scott Hancock from Pennsylvania
1884: Thomas Hendricks
1888: James G. Blaine
1892: Benjamin Harrison from Indiana
1896/1900: William McKinley from Ohio
1904: Alton Parker
1908: George Gray from Delaware
1912/1916: Woodrow Wilson from New Jersey
1920: Warren G. Harding
1924: Franklin Delano Roosevelt
1928/1932: Herbert Hoover
1936: Henry Wallace from New York
1940: Thomas Dewey
1944: Harold Stassen from Minnesota
1948-1956: Adlai Stevenson II
1960: Richard Nixon from California
1964: Barry Goldwater from Arizona
1968: Hubert H. Humphrey
1972: George S. McGovern from South Dakota
1976: James E. Carter
1980: Bob Dole
1984: Walter Mondale
1988: Michael Dukakis
1992: George H. W. Bush
1996: Richard Lugar from Indiana
2000: Steve Forbes from New York
2004: John Kerry from Massachusetts
2008: Hillary Clinton from New York
2012: Joe Biden from Delaware
2016: Willard Mitt Romney
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« Reply #702 on: February 28, 2019, 06:56:20 PM »
MONARCHS of the UNITED STATES
1789 – 1799     George I (“The Patriot”)     House of Washington–Custis–Lee
1799 – 1857     George II     House of Washington–Custis–Lee
1857 – 1861     Robert I (“The Fox”)     House of Washington–Custis–Lee
1861 – 1865     Abraham I (“The Emancipator”)     House of Lincoln
1865 – 1926     Robert II     House of Lincoln
1926 – 1938     Mary I     House of Lincoln
1938 – 1938     Abraham II (“The Unwilling”)     House of Isham
1938 – 1948     Mary II (“Jessie”)     House of Lincoln
1948 – 1985     Robert III     House of Lincoln–Beckwith
1985 –  -----     Timothy (“The Bastard”)     House of Lincoln–Beckwith
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« Reply #703 on: March 02, 2019, 08:38:54 PM »
Reagan as Wilson

40. Ronald Reagan/John Connally 1981-1989
41. Gary Hart/Mario Cuomo 1989-1991
42. Mario Cuomo/vacant 1991, Lee Hamilton 1991-1997
43. Les Aspin/Chris Dodd 1997-2001
44. Rudy Giuliani/Newt Gingrich 2001-2009, Rob Portman 2009-2013, Norm Coleman 2013
45. Norm Coleman/vacant 2013, John Thune 2013-2021
46. William McRaven/Kyrsten Sinema 2021-2029

Losing Tickets

1980: Jimmy Carter/Peter Rodino, George McGovern/Hugh Carey
1984: Reubin Askew/Edmund Muskie
1988: John Love/Rudy Giuliani
1992: Dick Cheney/Pete Wilson
1996: George Pataki/Trent Lott
2000: Les Aspin/Chris Dodd
2004: Zell Miller/Steve Jobs
2008: Steve Jobs/Dick Durbin
2012: Deval Patrick/Ted Strickland
2016: Deval Patrick/Gavin Newsom
2020: Larry Hogan/Ted Cruz
2024: Larry Hogan/Rand Paul
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« Reply #704 on: March 05, 2019, 03:48:27 PM »
« Edited: March 05, 2019, 04:12:34 PM by Sherrod Brown 2020 »
W as Clinton

43. George W. Bush/Lamar Alexander 2001-2009
44. Hillary Clinton/Wesley Clark 2009-2017
45. Marco Rubio/Mike Crapo 2017-2025
46. Mark Cuban/Roy Cooper 2025-2029

Losing Tickets

2000: Al Gore/Joe Lieberman
2004: Lloyd Bentsen/John Kerry
2008: Lamar Alexander/Chuck Hagel
2012: Scott Brown/Rick Perry
2016: Russ Feingold/Alison Lundergan Grimes
2020: John Hickenlooper/Hakeem Jeffries
2024: Jeb Bush/Tim Pawlenty
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« Reply #705 on: March 07, 2019, 01:21:44 PM »
Obama as Kennedy

44. Barack Obama/Joe Biden 2009-2011
45. Joe Biden/vacant 2011, Russ Feingold 2011-2017
46. Mitt Romney/Bob McDonnell 2017-2021, vacant 2021, Kevin McCarthy 2021-2022
47. Kevin McCarthy/vacant 2022, Jon Huntsman 2022-2025
48. Jay Inslee/Tammy Baldwin 2025-2029

Losing Tickets

2008: Mitt Romney/Jeb Bush
2012: Mike Pence/Newt Gingrich
2016: Russ Feingold/Chris Murphy
2020: Elizabeth Warren/Al Franken/Susan Rice
2024: Kevin McCarthy/John N. Kennedy
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« Reply #706 on: March 07, 2019, 03:59:04 PM »
Lyndon B. Johnson as Andrew Johnson

35. John F. Kennedy/Lyndon B. Johnson, 1961-1963 (assassinated)
36. Lyndon B. Johnson/Hubert Humphrey, 1963-1969
37. William Westmoreland/William Scranton, 1969-1977
38. Jim Rhodes/Paul Laxalt, 1977-1981
39. Jack Kemp/Spiro Agnew, 1981 (assassinated)
40. Spiro Agnew/Phil Crane, 1981-1985
41. Pat Moynihan/Birch Bayh, 1985-1989
42. John Eisenhower/Al D'Amato, 1989-1993
43. Pat Moynihan/Bill Brady, 1993-1997
44. George Voinovich/George Pataki, 1997-2001 (assassinated)
45. George Pataki/Don Young, 2001-2009
46. Bob Taft Jr./Lamar Alexander, 2009-2013
47. Joe Biden/Evan Bayh, 2013-2021
48. Mike DeWine/Scott Brown, 2021-2023 (assassinated)
49. Scott Brown/Bruce Rauner, 2023-2029
50. John Cox/Kristi Noem, 2029-2033
51. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez/Beto O'Rourke, 2033-
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« Reply #707 on: March 09, 2019, 01:24:55 PM »
Truman as Coolidge

33. Harry S. Truman/vacant 1945-1949, William O. Douglas 1949-1953
34. W. Averell Harriman/Ernest McFarland 1953-1957
35. John Bricker/Joseph W. Martin 1957-1965, Frederick Seaton 1965-1969, Clifford Case 1969
36. Clifford Case/vacant 1969-1973, Hugh Scott 1973-1977
37. Thomas Moorer/John Glenn 1977-1985
38. Paul Laxalt/Howard Baker 1985-1987
39. Howard Baker/vacant 1987-1989, Pete Wilson 1989-1993
40. John Glenn/Edwin Edwards 1993-1997, vacant 1997. William H. Gray III 1997-1998
41. William H. Gray III/vacant 1998, Douglas Wilder 1998-2001
42. George Pataki/Gordon Smith 2001-2005
43. Mark Warner/Sam Nunn 2005-2013
44. Sam Nunn/Martin Heinrich 2013-2017
45. Eric Greitens/Joni Ernst 2017-2025
46. Stacey Abrams/Jeh Johnson 2025-2029

Losing Tickets

1948: Douglas MacArthur/Earl Warren
1952: George T. Mickelson/Robert A. Taft
1956: W. Averell Harriman/Ernest McFarland
1960: Pat Brown/Michael DiSalle
1964: Paul C. Fisher/Lyndon B. Johnson
1968: John Connally/Frank Clement
1972: John Connally/Edmund Muskie
1976: Daniel Evans/Jesse Helms
1980: Daniel Evans/Bill Brock
1984: John Glenn/Ted Kennedy
1988: Paul Simon/Paul G. Kirk
1992: Pete Wilson/John Warner
1996: George W. Bush/Carroll Campbell/Donald Rumsfeld
2000: William H. Gray III/Russ Feingold
2004: George Pataki/Gordon Smith
2008: Gordon Smith/Lisa Murkowski
2012: Mike Pence/Jon Kyl
2016: Sam Nunn/Martin Heinrich
2020: Russ Feingold/Jim Webb
2024: Joni Ernst/Rob Portman
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« Reply #708 on: March 10, 2019, 06:05:32 AM »
Gerald Ford is shot in 1975

38. Gerald R. Ford/Nelson A. Rockefeller, 1974-1975
39. Nelson A. Rockefeller/vacant, Howard Baker, 1975-1979
40. Howard Baker/vacant, Jack Kemp, 1979-1981
41. Frank Church/Edmund G. Brown, 1981-1984
42. Edmund G. Brown/vacant, Lloyd Bentsen, 1984-1989
43. Richard Lugar/George Deukmejian, 1989-1997
44. Albert Arnold Gore/John Forbes Kerry, 1997-2005
45. John McCain/Mark Sandford, 2005-2009
46. Christopher Dodd/Bill Richardson, 2009-2013
47. Fred Thompson/Thomas W. Corbett, 2013-2015
48. Thomas W. Corbett/Jon Huntsman, 2015-2021
49. Edward Miner Lamont/Veronica Escobar, 2021-2029
50. Veronica Escobar/Jospeh P. Kennedy Jr., 2029-incumbent


Losing tickets:

1976: James E. Carter/Walter F. Mondale
1980: Howard Baker/Jack Kemp (inc.)
1984: Jack Kemp/Robert J. Dole
1988: Edmund G. Brown/Lloyd Bentsen (inc.)
1992: Albert Arnold Gore/Paul Tsongas
1996: Peter Barton Wilson/Phil Gramm
2000: John McCain/Trent Lott
2004: John Forbes Kerry/Richard Gephardt
2008: John McCain/Mark Sandford (inc.)
2012: Christopher Dodd/Bill Richardson (inc.)
2016: Bernard Sanders/Martin Heinrich
2020: Jon Huntsman/Marco Rubio
2024: Thomas Cotton/Richard Scott
2028: Josh Hawley/Elise Stefanik
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« Reply #709 on: March 10, 2019, 05:42:16 PM »
« Edited: March 11, 2019, 01:58:46 PM by Sherrod Brown 2020 »
W as Hayes

43. George W. Bush/Bob Dornan 2001-2005
44. John Kasich/Rudy Giuliani 2005
45. Rudy Giuliani/vacant 2005-2009
46. Ed Rendell/Jim Hunt 2009, vacant 2009-2013
47. Jeb Bush/Paul Ryan 2013-2017
48. Ed Rendell/Adam Schiff 2017-2021
49. Rob Portman/Chris Christie 2021-2023, vacant 2023-2025, Charlie Baker 2025
50. Charlie Baker/vacant 2025-2029

Losing Tickets

2000: Howard Dean/Jim Hunt
2004: Wesley Clark/Sherrod Brown
2008: Tom Ridge/Roy Blunt
2012: Ed Rendell/Evan Bayh
2016: Jeb Bush/David Petraeus
2020: Bernie Sanders/Tom Perez
2024: Bernie Sanders/Adam Schiff
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« Reply #710 on: March 10, 2019, 05:48:50 PM »
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Gerald Ford is shot in 1975

38. Gerald R. Ford/Nelson A. Rockefeller, 1974-1975
39. Nelson A. Rockefeller/vacant, Howard Baker, 1975-1979
40. Howard Baker/vacant, Jack Kemp, 1979-1981
41. Frank Church/Edmund G. Brown, 1981-1984
42. Edmund G. Brown/vacant, Lloyd Bentsen, 1984-1989
43. Richard Lugar/George Deukmejian, 1989-1997
44. Albert Arnold Gore/John Forbes Kerry, 1997-2005
45. John McCain/Mark Sandford, 2005-2009
46. Christopher Dodd/Bill Richardson, 2009-2013
47. Fred Thompson/Thomas W. Corbett, 2013-2015
48. Thomas W. Corbett/Jon Huntsman, 2015-2021
49. Edward Miner Lamont/Veronica Escobar, 2021-2029
50. Veronica Escobar/Jospeh P. Kennedy Jr., 2029-incumbent


Losing tickets:

1976: James E. Carter/Walter F. Mondale
1980: Howard Baker/Jack Kemp (inc.)
1984: Jack Kemp/Robert J. Dole
1988: Edmund G. Brown/Lloyd Bentsen (inc.)
1992: Albert Arnold Gore/Paul Tsongas
1996: Peter Barton Wilson/Phil Gramm
2000: John McCain/Trent Lott
2004: John Forbes Kerry/Richard Gephardt
2008: John McCain/Mark Sandford (inc.)
2012: Christopher Dodd/Bill Richardson (inc.)
2016: Bernard Sanders/Martin Heinrich
2020: Jon Huntsman/Marco Rubio
2024: Thomas Cotton/Richard Scott
2028: Josh Hawley/Elise Stefanik

I think this might be the first time I've ever seen Corbett used on this site.
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« Reply #711 on: March 10, 2019, 06:18:30 PM »
Ford as Cleveland:

Gerald Ford/Nelson Rockefeller, 1974-1977
Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale, 1977-1981
Gerald Ford/Bob Dole, 1981-1985
Ted Kennedy/Lloyd Bentsen, 1985-1989
Lloyd Bentsen/Birch Bayh, 1989-1997
Al Gore/Bill Clinton, 1997-2001
George W. Bush/Dick Cheney, 2001-2009
Bill Clinton/Barack Obama, 2009-2011
Barack Obama/Tim Kaine, 2011-2017
Hillary Clinton/Julian Castro, 2017-2021
Ted Cruz/Paul Ryan, 2021-present

Losing Tickets:
1976: Gerald Ford/Bob Dole
1980: Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale
1984: Ronald Reagan/George H. W. Bush
1988: Ronald Reagan/Jack Kemp
1992: George H. W. Bush/Bob Dole
1996: Ronald Reagan/Steve Forbes
2000: Al Gore/Bill Clinton
Ralph Nader/Winona LaDuke
2004: John Kerry/Evan Bayh
2008: Mike Huckabee/Rick Perry
2012: Rick Perry/Sarah Palin
2016: Ted Cruz/Carly Fiorina
2020: Hillary Clinton/Julian Castro
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« Reply #712 on: March 10, 2019, 07:27:02 PM »
Wow, Kasich comes back from the dead after getting assassinated in '05?
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« Reply #713 on: March 11, 2019, 09:25:19 PM »
« Edited: March 19, 2019, 04:18:01 PM by Harry S Truman »
Fewest (I think) individuals to be president, choosing from OTL candidates and respecting OTL dates of birth/death.

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
1. George Washington (Independent, Virginia) 1789 – 1797
2. Thomas Jefferson (Republican, Virginia) 1797 – 1809
3. James Madison (Republican, Virginia) 1809 – 1817
4. James Monroe (Republican, Virginia) 1817 – 1825
5. Andrew Jackson (Democratic, Tennessee) 1825 – 1837
6. Martin Van Buren (Democratic, New York) 1837 – 1853
7. Stephen Douglas (Democratic, Illinois) 1853 – 1861
8. Abraham Lincoln (Republican, Illinois) 1861 – 1865 ‡
9. Andrew Johnson (Democratic, Tennessee) 1865 – 1869
10. Ulysses S. Grant (Republican, Ohio) 1869 – 1885
11. Stephen Grover Cleveland (Democratic, New York) 1885 – 1897
12. William Jennings Bryan (Democratic, Nebraska) 1897 – 1905
13. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican, New York) 1905 – 1909
—. William Jennings Bryan (Democratic, Nebraska) 1909 – 1913
—. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican, New York) 1913 – 1919 †
14. Charles Warren Fairbanks (Republican, Indiana) 1919 – 1921
15. Alfred Emmanuel Smith (Democratic, New York) 1921 – 1933
16. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democratic, New York) 1933 – 1945 †
17. Harry S. Truman (Democratic, Missouri) 1945 – 1957
18. Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democratic, Texas) 1957 – 1973
19. Walter Frederick Mondale (Democratic, Minnesota) 1973 – 1981
20. George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican, Texas) 1981 – 1985
—. Walter Frederick Mondale (Democratic, Minnesota) 1985 – 1989
—. George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican, Texas) 1989 – 1997
21. Patrick Joseph Buchanan (Republican, Virginia) 1997 – 2005
22. Johnny Reid Edwards (Democratic, North Carolina) 2005 – 2013
23. Richard John Santorum (Republican, Pennsylvania) 2013 – present
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« Reply #714 on: March 11, 2019, 11:09:55 PM »
Quote from: Harry S Truman on March 11, 2019, 09:25:19 PM
Fewest (I think) individuals to be president, choosing from OTL candidates and respecting OTL dates of birth/death.


You counted Bush twice and skipped #21 and #25, I think.
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« Reply #715 on: March 12, 2019, 05:56:53 AM »
Truman also skipped 14.
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« Reply #716 on: March 12, 2019, 09:28:40 PM »
Reagan as Nixon

40. Ronald Reagan/John Connally 1981-1985, vacant 1985, Bob Michel 1985-1986
41. Bob Michel/vacant 1986, Pete du Pont 1986-1989
42. Mario Cuomo/Sam Nunn 1989-1993
43. Lamar Alexander/Dick Thornburgh 1993-2001
44. Dick Thornburgh/John McCain 2001-2005
45. Jon Corzine/Tom Harkin 2005-2013
46. Scott Walker/Chuck Hagel 2013-2021
47. Mo Cowan/Russ Feingold 2021-2029

Losing Tickets

1980: Walter Mondale/Vance Hartke
1984: Ernest Hollings/Harrison Williams/John Lindsay
1988: Bob Michel/Warren Rudman
1992: Mario Cuomo/Sam Nunn
1996: Sam Nunn/Patricia Schroeder
2000: Gary Locke/Al Gore
2004: Dick Thornburgh/John McCain
2008: Warren Rudman/Rudy Giuliani
2012: Tom Harkin/Byron Dorgan
2016: Ron Wyden/Kirsten Gillibrand
2020: Lindsey Graham/Liz Cheney
2024: Bruce Rauner/Will Hurd
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« Reply #717 on: March 16, 2019, 05:18:50 PM »
PresidentsYearsVice PresidentsYears
Howard Baker (R-Tenn.)1981AssassinatedGeorge Bush (R-Texas)1981
George Bush (R-Texas)1981–1985Vacant
Gary Hart (D-Colo.)1985–1989Lloyd Bentsen (D-Texas)1985–1989
George Bush (R-Texas)1989–1993Bob Dole (R-Kans.)1989–1993
Gary Hart (D-Colo.)1993–1997Harris Wofford (D-Penn.)1993–1997
Donald Rumsfeld (R-Ill.)1997–2001A.Lynn M. Martin (R-Texas)1997–1999Died
Vacant
John McCain (R-Ariz.)2001
John McCain (R-Ariz.)2001–2009Vacant
John E. Sununu (R-N.H.)2005–2009
Colin Powell (R-N.Y.)2009–2013Charlie Crist (R-Fla.)2009–2012D.
Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.)2013–2021Amy Klobuchar (D-Penn.)1993–1997
Marco Rubio (R-Fla.)2021–2023D.John James (R-Mich.)2021–2023
John James (R-Mich.)2023–2029Vacant
Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-Wash.)2025–2033
Ben Sasse (R-Neb.)2029–2033
Joe Cunningham (D-S.C.)2033–2045D.Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.)2033–2041
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« Reply #718 on: March 16, 2019, 05:24:45 PM »
It took me way too long to get that it's a Baker as Garfield list. Not sure why Bentsen doesn't die in '85 ITTL though.
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« Reply #719 on: March 17, 2019, 06:05:04 PM »
Obama as Harding

44. Barack Obama/Tim Kaine 2009-2011
45. Tim Kaine/vacant 2011, Tom Perez 2011-2017
46. Julian Castro/Chuck Schumer 2017-2021
47. Jon Huntsman/Paul Ryan 2021-2029

Losing Tickets

2008: Jim Edgar/Jon Huntsman
2012: Christine Todd Whitman/Rick Perry
2016: Gary Herbert/John Cornyn
2020: Julian Castro/Chuck Schumer
2024: Jay Inslee/Nina Turner
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« Reply #720 on: April 04, 2019, 10:58:34 PM »
« Edited: April 04, 2019, 11:03:38 PM by DatGOTTho »
Meh. I'll restart this thread.

ALTERNATE PRESIDENTS FROM MY ABORTIVE HITLER VS. STALIN TIMELINE
(not meant for the squeamish)

Hilliard Victory

PRESIDENTS
(note: colors are reversed due to ideological butterfly effect, due to Hilliard's views)
Adam Hilliard (D) - 1933-1961
Strom Thurmond (D) - 1961-1969
George Wallace (D) - 1969-1977
Ronald Reagan (D) - 1977-1985
Newt Gingrich (D) - 1985-1989
George H. W. Bush (R) - 1989-1997
Bill Clinton (R) - 1997-2005
John McCain (R) - 2005-2013
Donald Trump (D) - 2013-2021
Marco Rubio (R) - 2021-

VICE PRESIDENTS
J. Hamilton Lewis (D) - 1933-1939
William D. Pelley (D) - 1939-1957
Strom Thurmond (D) - 1957-1961
George L. Rockwell (D) - 1961-1969
Orval Faubus (D) - 1969-1977
George Smathers (D) - 1977-1985
Pat Buchanan (D) - 1985-1989
Jim Thompson (R) - 1989-1997
George Deukmejian (R) - 1997-2005
Al Gore (R) - 2005-2013
David Duke (D) - 2013-2021
Paul Ryan (R) - 2021-

LOSING TICKETS
1932: Joseph Steele/Upton Sinclair (F-L)
1936-1964: No major opposition
1968: John F. Kennedy/Hubert H. Humphrey (R)
1972: Hubert H. Humphrey/Ed Muskie (R)
1976: Jerry Brown/Jimmy Carter (R)
1980: Al Gore, Sr./"Scoop" Jackson (R)
1984: Walter Mondale/Geraldine Ferraro (R)
1988: Newt Gingrich/Pat Buchanan (D)
1992: Fritz Hollings/Pat Buchanan (D)
1996: Robert Bork/Clyde N. Wilson (D)
2000: Mike Huckabee/Tom Tancredo (D)
2004: David Duke/Bill O'Reilly (D)
2008: Newt Gingrich/Bill O'Reilly (D)
2012: Barack Obama/George W. Bush (R)
2016: Mitt Romney/Scott Walker (R)
2020: Ted Cruz/Steve Bannon (D)

Steele Victory

PRESIDENTS
Joseph Steele (F-L) - 1933-1953
Dwight D. Eisenhower (F-L) - 1953-1961
Lyndon B. Johnson (D) - 1961-1969
Richard M. Nixon (F-L) - 1969-1977
Ronald Reagan (D) - 1977-1981
Jimmy Carter (F-L*) - 1981-1989
George H. W. Bush (D) - 1989-1997
Bill Clinton (D) - 1997-2005
Bernie Sanders (L) - 2005-2013
Barack Obama (L) - 2013-2021
Beto O'Rourke (D) - 2021-present

*: shortened from Farmer-Labor to Labor in 1984

VICE PRESIDENTS
Upton Sinclair (F-L) - 1933-1937
Huey Long (F-L) - 1937-1945
Harry S Truman (F-L) - 1945-1953
Richard M. Nixon (F-L) - 1953-1961
George Smathers (D) - 1961-1969
Spiro T. Agnew (F-L) - 1969-1973
Hubert H. Humphrey (F-L) - 1973-1977
Gerald Ford (D) - 1977-1981
Jerry Brown (F-L) - 1981-1989
Dan Quayle (D) - 1989-1997
Richard Lugar (D) - 1997-2005
John McCain (L) - 2005-2013
Paul Ryan (L) - 2013-2021
Marco Rubio (D) - 2021-present

LOSING TICKETS
1932: Adam Hilliard/J. Hamilton Lewis (D)
1936: Adam Hilliard/Charles Evans Hughes (D)
1940: Adam Hilliard/Charles Coughlin^ (D)
1944: John Garner/Strom Thurmond (D)
1948: Strom Thurmond/Robert Taft (D)
1952: Estes Kefauver/Douglas MacArthur (D)
1956: Douglas MacArthur/Estes Kefauver (D)
1960: John F. Kennedy/Stuart Symington (F-L)
1964: John F. Kennedy/Hubert H. Humphrey (F-L)
1968: George Wallace/Orval Faubus (D)
1972: George Smathers/Nelson Rockefeller (D)
1976: Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale (F-L)
1980: Ronald Reagan/Gerald Ford (D)
1984: Gerald Ford/Jack Kemp (D)
1988: Michael Dukakis/Gary Hart (L)
1992: Jerry Brown/Al Gore (L)
1996: Bernie Sanders/Noam Chomsky (L)
2000: Mario Cuomo/Jesse Jackson (L)
2004: Richard Lugar/George W. Bush (D)
2008: George W. Bush/Sarah Palin (D)
2012: Rick Perry/Dana Rohrabacher (D)
2016: Hillary Clinton/Ted Cruz (D)
2020: Elizabeth Warren/Cory Booker (L)

^: Coughlin, having been born in Canada to Canadian parents, was technically ineligible, anyway.
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« Reply #721 on: April 05, 2019, 08:19:38 PM »
Reagan as Carter

39. Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale 1977-1981
40. Ronald Reagan/Howard Baker 1981-1985
41. Ted Kennedy/Cyrus Vance 1985-1993
42. Cyrus Vance/Bill Bradley 1993-1997
43. William Weld/Judd Gregg 1997-2005
44. Cyrus Vance Jr./Leon Panetta 2005-2013
45. Brian Sandoval/Rob Portman 2013-2021
46. Elizabeth Warren/Jay Inslee 2021-

Losing Tickets

1980: Jimmy Carter/Jay Rockefeller
1984: Ronald Reagan/Howard Baker
1988: Howard Baker/Paula Hawkins
1992: George S. Mickelson/John Warner
1996: Cyrus Vance/Bill Bradley
2000: Jay Rockefeller/Bill Richardson
2004: Judd Gregg/Arlen Specter
2008: Tom Ridge/Gordon Smith
2012: Joe Biden/Bev Purdue
2016: Martin O'Malley/Xavier Becerra
2020: Charlie Baker/John Hoeven
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« Reply #722 on: April 08, 2019, 11:38:11 PM »
Trump 2012

45. Donald Trump (2013-2021)
46. Sherrod Brown (2021-2025)
47. Jon Huntsman (2025-2033)
48. Alexandria Ocascio Cortez (2033-2037)
49. Donald Trump Jr. (2037-2039)
50. George P. Bush (2039-2041)
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« Reply #723 on: April 10, 2019, 06:58:00 PM »
« Edited: April 11, 2019, 07:50:39 AM by Sherrod Brown 2020 »
Clinton as Wilson

42. Bill Clinton/Douglas Wilder 1993-2001
43. Gordon Smith/George Pataki 2001-2003
44. George Pataki/vacant 2003, Donald Rumsfeld 2003-2009
45. Tom Ridge/Bill Frist 2009-2013
46. John F. Kennedy Jr./Steny Hoyer 2013-2021, Eric Holder 2021-2025, Cory Booker 2025
47. Cory Booker/vacant 2025, Michael Bennet 2025-2029

Losing Tickets

1992: George H.W. Bush/Pat Buchanan, Gerald R. Ford/Pete Wilson
1996: Sandra Day O'Connor/Dan Quayle
2000: John Kitzhaber/John F. Kennedy Jr.
2004: Carol Moseley Braun/Paul Wellstone
2008: Eliot Spitzer/Tom Daschle
2012: Tom Ridge/Bill Frist
2016: Rick Perry/Herman Cain
2020: Carly Fiorina/John Cornyn
2024: Chris Christie/John Kasich
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« Reply #724 on: April 10, 2019, 11:40:35 PM »
Kennedy as FDR

35. John F. Kennedy/Lyndon B. Johnson (1961-1969), Hubert H. Humphrey (1969-1973), James E. Carter (1973)
36. James E. Carter/vacant (1973-1977), Lloyd Bentsen (1977-1981)
37. Ronald Reagan/Jack Kemp (1981-1989)
38. Michael Dukakis/Robert Byrd (1989-1991)
39. Robert Byrd/vacant (1991-1993), Paul Simon (1993-1997)
40. Mitch McConnell/Dan Quayle (1997-2002)
41. Dan Quayle/George Pataki (2002-2005)
42. Al Gore/Carol Moseley Braun (2005-2009)
43. Rudy Giuliani/Mitt Romney (2009-2017)
44. Mitt Romney/Rick Perry (2017-2021)

Losers
1960: Joe McCarthy (still alive)/Richard Nixon
1964: Barry Goldwater/Bill Loeb III
1968: Nelson Rockefeller/Mark Hatfield
1972: George Romney/Nelson Rockefeller
1976: George Romney/Ronald Reagan
1980: Dan Walker/Fritz Hollings
1984: Dan Walker/Reubin Askew
1988: Jack Kemp/George Deukmejian
1992: Pat Buchanan/Bob Dole
1996: Paul Simon/Paul Tsongas
2000: Bernie Sanders/Byron Dorgan
2004: Dan Quayle/Bill Frist
2008: Al Gore/Carol Moseley Braun
2012: Carol Moseley Braun/Andrew Cuomo
2016: Deval Patrick/Tim Kaine
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