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« Reply #1400 on: March 14, 2024, 04:05:44 PM »

                                       
                                       
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of Texas
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of Wyoming
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« Reply #1401 on: March 29, 2024, 03:35:10 PM »
« Edited: March 29, 2024, 03:41:42 PM by Brother Jonathan »

25. William McKinley (Republican), 1897-1905      
     VP: H. Clay Evens
     1896: def. Grover Cleveland/John M. Palmer (D) and William Jennings Bryan/Arthur Sewall (Pop)
     1900: def. George Dewey/Jim Hogg (D) and William Jennings Bryan/John McBride (Pop)
26. H. Clay Evens (Republican), 1905-1913
      VP: Robert R. Hitt (until 1906)
            Albert J. Beveridge
      1904: def. Alton B. Parker/George Turner (D) and Willaim Jennings Bryan/Job Harriman (Pop)
      1908: def. Job Harriman/Eugene Debs (Pop) and Richard Olney/James P. Clarke (D)
27. Robert M. La Follette (United Progressive), 1913-1917
      VP: Charles Edward Russell
      1912: def. Champ Clark/Oscar Underwood (D) and Nicholas M. Butler/L.B. Hanna (R)
28. Champ Clark, 1917-1925 (Democratic)
      VP: Judson Harmon (until 1917)
            Nicholas M. Butler (Republican)
      1916: def. Robert M. La Follette/Charles Edward Russell (UP) and John W. Weeks/Martin G. Brumbaugh (R)
      1920: def. William Randolph Hearst/Henry Ford (National) and Eugene V. Debs/Louis F. Post (UP)
29. James E. Watson (Republican), 1925-1933
      VP: Herbert Hoover
      1924: def. Robert M. La Follette/John Phillip White(UP/Lab) and Oscar Underwood/John Davis (D)
      1928: def. John Phillip White/Gifford Pinchot (Lab/UP) and Al Smith/Cordell Hull (D)
30. Daniel Hoan (Labor), 1933-1941
      VP: Fiorello La Guardia
      1932: def. Henry Ford/Robert E. Wood (American) and Franklin Roosevelt/Joseph T. Robinson (D)
                and Frank Lowden/Joseph France (R)
      1936: def. Al Smith/Frank Knox (Unity) and Gerald L.K. Smith/William Lemke (American)
31. William Green (Labor), 1941-1949
      VP: George A. Nelson (until 1945)
            Scott W. Lucas (Democratic)
      1940: def. Charles Lindbergh/Ernest Lundeen (American) and Herbert Hoover/James Farley
      (Unity)
and Fiorello La Guardia/J. Henry Stump (Socialist)
      1944: def. John G. Townsend/Styles Bridges (R) and Benjamin Gitlow/Devere Allen (Socialist)
32. Culbert Olson (Social Democratic), 1949-1953
      VP: Birch Wilson
      1948: def. Arthur Vandenberg/John W. Bricker (R) and William Alexander Julian/Wayne Morse (Liberal)
33. Earl Warren (Republican), 1953-1961
      VP: Harold Stassen
      1952: def. Birch Wilson/Adlai Stevenson (SDP) and W. Averell Harriman/Kenneth McKellar (Liberal)
      1956: def. Adlai Stevenson/Darlington Hoopes (SDP) and Strom Thurmond/John Sparkman (Dixiecrat)
34. Frank Zeidler (Social Democratic), 1961-1969
      VP: Robert F. Wagner Jr.
      1960: def. Harold Stassen/Richard Nixon (R) and Stuart Symington/Sam Ervin (Liberal)
      1964: def. Harold Stassen/Hiram Fong (R)
35. Franklin D. Roosevelt Jr. (Liberal), 1969-1973
      VP: George Romney (Republican)
      1968: def. Robert F. Wagner Jr./Hubert H. Humphrey (SDP) and Richard Nixon/Jim Rhodes (R)
     and Eugene McCarthy/A. Philip Randolph (New Socialist)
36. Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (Republican), 1973-1981
      VP: Charles H. Percy
     1972: def. Hubert H. Humphrey/J. William Fulbright (SDP) and Franklin D. Roosevelt Jr./Pete McCloskey (Liberal)
      1976: def. Mo Udall/Arnold Miller (SDP)
37. Walter Mondale (Social Democratic), 1981-1989
      VP: Leonard Woodcock
      1980: def. Charles H. Percy/Bob Dole (R)
      1984: def. Bob Dole/Howard Baker (R)
38. Paul Laxalt (Republican), 1989-1997
      VP: Jack Kemp
      1988: def. Julian Bond/David Bonoir (SDP) and Paul Tsongas/Peter G. Peterson (Liberal)
      1992: def. Tom Harkin/Lane Kirkland (SDP)
39. Carl Gershman (Social Democratic), 1997-2005
      VP: Dick Gephardt
      1996: def. Jack Kemp/Lamar Alexander (R)
      2000: def. Pete Wilson/Alan Keyes (R)
40. Dick Gephardt (Social Democratic), 2005-2009
      VP: Bill Bradley
      2004: def. Mike Huckabee/Slade Gorton (R) and Ron Dellums/Bernie Sanders (Green)
41. Mitt Romney (Republican), 2009-2017
      VP: Tim Pawlenty
      2008: def. Dick Gephardt/Bill Bradley (SDP) and Bernie Sanders/Ralph Nader (Green)
      2012: def. Mark Begich/Richard Trumka (SDP) and Bernie Sanders/Constance N. Johnson (Green)
42. Elizabeth Warren (Social Democratic), 2017–
      VP: Tim Ryan
      2016: def. Tim Pawlenty/Ted Cruz (R) and Constance N. Johnson/Howie Hawkins (Green)
      2020: def. Ted Cruz/Marco Rubio (R)
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« Reply #1402 on: April 08, 2024, 03:46:12 AM »
« Edited: April 08, 2024, 09:38:27 AM by shearsforest »

I'll kick things off by showcasing We Shall Overcome, the very scenario I've been working on and off on for the past... well, it began in October 2023 so the past few months.

This reads like an Oscars thank you speech, but I'd like to thank Hal Jordan of AH.com for inspiring the creation of this piece. The full list can be found on that site. Due inspiration, especially, to allthekingsmen (i.e. allthepresidentsmen) for his timelines, which also lent some inspiration. Bunch of other people I've gotta thank, too, for inspiring segments of this piece — Rillium, AstroRangerBeans, Orchard, Reagent, Addemup, The British President, Just Rebecca (MisterAnemone on Sufficient Velocity), and SomeGuyOnline.

As it stands, though I've been revising and revising this puppy since first working on it, the presidential list:

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46. Fmr. VP Joe Biden of Delaware / Senator Kamala Harris of California (Democratic): January 20, 2021 - May 7, 2026
2020: def. President Donald Trump of Florida / VP Mike Pence of Indiana (Republican)
2024: def. Fmr. President Donald Trump of Florida / Representative Elise Stefanik of New York (Republican) & Environmental lawyer Robert F. Kennedy Jr. of California / Fmr. Representative Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii (Independent)
May 7, 2026: resigns from office due to health concerns
47. VP Kamala Harris of California / vacant (until July 13, 2026); Governor Roy Cooper of North Carolina (from July 13, 2026) (Democratic): May 7, 2026 - January 20, 2029
July 13, 2026: Roy Cooper appointed as VP by a narrow margin
48. Businessman Vivek Ramaswamy of Ohio / Representative Anna Paulina Luna of Florida (Republican): January 20, 2029 - January 20, 2033
2028: def. President Kamala Harris of California / VP Roy Cooper of North Carolina (Democratic)
February 18, 2032: transgender rights activist Vanessa McCoy* murdered by alt-right militants, sparking the Vanessagate scandal
May 23, 2032: impeached by House following Vanessagate; would later be acquitted by Senate
49. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York / Senator Raphael Warnock of Georgia (Democratic/Unity): January 20, 2033 - January 20, 2041
2032: def. President Vivek Ramaswamy of Ohio / VP Anna Paulina Luna of Florida (Republican)
2033-2035: passing of the "Civil Amendments", including the Equal Rights Amendment and Equal Opportunity to Govern Amendment, alongside the activation of the NPVIC
2036: def. Senator Todd Young of Indiana / Representative Mike Gallagher of Wisconsin (Common Sense) & Far-right political commentator Nick Fuentes of Illinois / Far-right political commentator Jackson Hinkle of California (Patriot)
November 6, 2036: secession of the unrecognized National Patriot Front
January 20-21, 2037: the January Putsch; Ocasio-Cortez declares a "Unity Party" and mobilizes forces against the NPF
December 14, 2037: collapse of the NPF following the Battle of Omaha
50. Governor Wes Moore of Maryland (Unity/Justice) / Senator Julia Salazar of New York (Unity/Justice): January 20, 2041 - January 20, 2049
2040: def. Senator Dan Crenshaw of Texas / Representative Mike Lawler of New York (Conservative Alliance)
2044: def. Representative Julia E. Coleman of Minnesota / Representative Blake Moore of Utah (Conservative Alliance)
July 19, 2046: Unity Party partitioned into Justice, New Democratic, and National Liberal parties as part of the ongoing "Reconfederation Period"
51. Governor Marie Gluesenkamp-Perez of Washington [✝] / Representative Lina Hidalgo of Texas (National Liberal): January 20, 2049 - May 8, 2053
2048: first round def. Representative Maxwell Frost of Florida / Representative Zaynab Mohamed of Minnesota (Justice) & Senator Shevrin Jones of Florida / Governor Michelle Wu of Massachusetts (New Democratic) & Senator Austin Harris of Iowa / Senator Max Miller of Oregon (Conservative Alliance) & Environmental activist Gracie Jacobson of Mississippi* / Civil rights advocate Alan M. Jacinto of Arizona* (Green) / second round def. Senator Shevrin Jones of Florida / Governor Michelle Wu of Massachusetts (New Democratic) & Environmental activist Gracie Jacobson of Mississippi* / Civil rights advocate Alan M. Jacinto of Arizona* (Green)
September 5, 2049: Conservative Alliance partitioned into Christian Renewal and United Libertarian parties as part of the ongoing "Reconfederation Period"
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« Reply #1403 on: April 08, 2024, 07:44:58 AM »

February 18, 2032: transgender rights activist Vanessa McCoy murdered by alt-right militants, sparking the Vanessagate scandal
I decided to look up Vanessa McCoy to see if she was a real person (since she didn't have an asterisk next to her name like the 2048 Green nominees) and found this infobox, and after admiring how pretty McCoy was, discovered the picture used to represent her is that of Zoey Deutch, actress and daughter of Lea Thompson of Back to the Future fame. The age difference between McCoy in 2031 (~33-34) and Deutch in 2017 (when that picture was taken, 22) made me want to make this:
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« Reply #1404 on: April 08, 2024, 09:37:06 AM »

discovered the picture used to represent her is that of Zoey Deutch, actress and daughter of Lea Thompson of Back to the Future fame. The age difference between McCoy in 2031 (~33-34) and Deutch in 2017 (when that picture was taken, 22) made me want to make this:
For varying reasons, Deutch is no longer McCoy's faceclaim; that'd be Nicole Maines, who is an actual transgender actress.
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« Reply #1405 on: April 08, 2024, 09:44:27 AM »

discovered the picture used to represent her is that of Zoey Deutch, actress and daughter of Lea Thompson of Back to the Future fame. The age difference between McCoy in 2031 (~33-34) and Deutch in 2017 (when that picture was taken, 22) made me want to make this:
For varying reasons, Deutch is no longer McCoy's faceclaim; that'd be Nicole Maines, who is an actual transgender actress.
That makes sense; Maines makes more sense as the faceclaim too. Still, dermatologists hate her!
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« Reply #1406 on: April 08, 2024, 01:44:38 PM »

discovered the picture used to represent her is that of Zoey Deutch, actress and daughter of Lea Thompson of Back to the Future fame. The age difference between McCoy in 2031 (~33-34) and Deutch in 2017 (when that picture was taken, 22) made me want to make this:
For varying reasons, Deutch is no longer McCoy's faceclaim; that'd be Nicole Maines, who is an actual transgender actress.
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« Reply #1407 on: April 09, 2024, 02:47:06 PM »

discovered the picture used to represent her is that of Zoey Deutch, actress and daughter of Lea Thompson of Back to the Future fame. The age difference between McCoy in 2031 (~33-34) and Deutch in 2017 (when that picture was taken, 22) made me want to make this:
For varying reasons, Deutch is no longer McCoy's faceclaim; that'd be Nicole Maines, who is an actual transgender actress.
That makes sense; Maines makes more sense as the faceclaim too. Still, dermatologists hate her!
They won't hate her as much when they find out that her revised version in We Shall Overcome, my current timeline, was born in 2006.
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« Reply #1408 on: April 09, 2024, 02:47:46 PM »

discovered the picture used to represent her is that of Zoey Deutch, actress and daughter of Lea Thompson of Back to the Future fame. The age difference between McCoy in 2031 (~33-34) and Deutch in 2017 (when that picture was taken, 22) made me want to make this:
For varying reasons, Deutch is no longer McCoy's faceclaim; that'd be Nicole Maines, who is an actual transgender actress.
hey you're here
Who are you, by the way? Your name here doesn't appear to ring any bells.
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« Reply #1409 on: April 09, 2024, 02:51:38 PM »

discovered the picture used to represent her is that of Zoey Deutch, actress and daughter of Lea Thompson of Back to the Future fame. The age difference between McCoy in 2031 (~33-34) and Deutch in 2017 (when that picture was taken, 22) made me want to make this:
For varying reasons, Deutch is no longer McCoy's faceclaim; that'd be Nicole Maines, who is an actual transgender actress.
hey you're here
Who are you, by the way? Your name here doesn't appear to ring any bells.

I lurk mostly on AH.com
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« Reply #1410 on: April 09, 2024, 03:35:21 PM »

discovered the picture used to represent her is that of Zoey Deutch, actress and daughter of Lea Thompson of Back to the Future fame. The age difference between McCoy in 2031 (~33-34) and Deutch in 2017 (when that picture was taken, 22) made me want to make this:
For varying reasons, Deutch is no longer McCoy's faceclaim; that'd be Nicole Maines, who is an actual transgender actress.
hey you're here
Who are you, by the way? Your name here doesn't appear to ring any bells.

I lurk mostly on AH.com
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« Reply #1411 on: April 09, 2024, 03:50:30 PM »

discovered the picture used to represent her is that of Zoey Deutch, actress and daughter of Lea Thompson of Back to the Future fame. The age difference between McCoy in 2031 (~33-34) and Deutch in 2017 (when that picture was taken, 22) made me want to make this:
For varying reasons, Deutch is no longer McCoy's faceclaim; that'd be Nicole Maines, who is an actual transgender actress.
That makes sense; Maines makes more sense as the faceclaim too. Still, dermatologists hate her!
They won't hate her as much when they find out that her revised version in We Shall Overcome, my current timeline, was born in 2006.
On one hand, makes sense, but on the other, good God, there are people born during Bush's second term.
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« Reply #1412 on: April 09, 2024, 05:32:54 PM »

discovered the picture used to represent her is that of Zoey Deutch, actress and daughter of Lea Thompson of Back to the Future fame. The age difference between McCoy in 2031 (~33-34) and Deutch in 2017 (when that picture was taken, 22) made me want to make this:
For varying reasons, Deutch is no longer McCoy's faceclaim; that'd be Nicole Maines, who is an actual transgender actress.
That makes sense; Maines makes more sense as the faceclaim too. Still, dermatologists hate her!
They won't hate her as much when they find out that her revised version in We Shall Overcome, my current timeline, was born in 2006.
On one hand, makes sense, but on the other, good God, there are people born during Bush's second term.

I was born in Bushs second term
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« Reply #1413 on: April 09, 2024, 06:12:36 PM »

That doesn't make it right.
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« Reply #1414 on: April 21, 2024, 11:21:53 PM »
« Edited: April 22, 2024, 09:54:25 AM by LabourJersey »

Revisiting this one--
The 16th Amendment to the Constitution (1877) mandates a President can only serve one six-year term.

19. Rutherford B. Hayes (R-OH) Mar. 4 1877- Mar. 4 1881
20. James G. Blaine (R-ME) Mar. 4 1881- Mar. 4 1887
21. Benjamin Harrison (R-IN) Mar. 4 1887- Mar. 4 1893

22. David B. Hill (D-NY) Mar. 4 1893- Mar. 4 1899
23. William B. Allison (R-IA) Mar. 4 1899- Mar. 4 1905
24. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY) Mar. 4 1905- Mar. 4 1911

25. William R. Hearst (D-NY) Mar. 4 1911- Mar. 4 1917
26. Charles E. Hughes (R-NY) Mar. 4 1917- Aug. 31 1919*
27. Frank O. Lowden (R-IL) Aug. 31 1919 - Mar. 4 1923
28. Herbert C. Hoover (R-CA) Mar. 4 1923- Mar. 4 1929
29. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. (R-NY) Mar. 4 1929- Mar. 4 1935

30. Alfred E. Smith (D-NY) Mar. 4 1935- Jan. 3 1941**
31. W. Frank Murphy (D-MI) Jan. 3 1941- Jul. 8 1941*
32. Alben Barkley (D-KY) Jul. 8 1941- Jan. 3 1947
33. George Randolph Hearst (D-NY) Jan. 3 1947- Jan. 3 1953

34. Charles P. Taft II (R-OH) Jan. 3 1953- Jan. 3 1959
35. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) Jan. 3 1959- Jan. 3 1965
36. Nelson A. Rockefeller (R-NY) Jan. 3 1965 - Jul. 20 1969*
37. Lucius D. Clay (R-GA) Jul. 20 1969 - Jan. 3 1971

38. Russell B. Long (D-LA) Jan. 3 1971- Jan. 3 1977
39. Henry W. Jackson (D-WA) Jan. 3 1977 - Jan. 3 1983

40. Prescott Bush, Jr. (R-CT) Jan. 3 1983 - Jan. 3 1989
41. David L. Boren (D-OK) Jan. 3 1989 - Jan. 3 1995
42. Michael Rockefeller (R-NH) Jan. 3 1995 - Jan. 3 2001
43. Ann Richards (D-TX) Jan. 3 2001 - Jan. 3 2007
44. Robert W. "Woody" Johnson (R-NJ) Jan. 3 2007- Jan. 3 2013
45. Martin O'Malley (D-MD) Jan. 3 2013 - Jan. 3 2019



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« Reply #1415 on: April 26, 2024, 02:00:34 AM »

I'll kick things off by showcasing We Shall Overcome, the very scenario I've been working on and off on for the past... well, it began in October 2023 so the past few months.

This reads like an Oscars thank you speech, but I'd like to thank Hal Jordan of AH.com for inspiring the creation of this piece. The full list can be found on that site. Due inspiration, especially, to allthekingsmen (i.e. allthepresidentsmen) for his timelines, which also lent some inspiration. Bunch of other people I've gotta thank, too, for inspiring segments of this piece — Rillium, AstroRangerBeans, Orchard, Reagent, Addemup, The British President, Just Rebecca (MisterAnemone on Sufficient Velocity), and SomeGuyOnline.

As it stands, though I've been revising and revising this puppy since first working on it, the presidential list:

* indicates OCs

46. Fmr. VP Joe Biden of Delaware / Senator Kamala Harris of California (Democratic): January 20, 2021 - May 7, 2026
2020: def. President Donald Trump of Florida / VP Mike Pence of Indiana (Republican)
2024: def. Fmr. President Donald Trump of Florida / Representative Elise Stefanik of New York (Republican) & Environmental lawyer Robert F. Kennedy Jr. of California / Fmr. Representative Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii (Independent)
May 7, 2026: resigns from office due to health concerns
47. VP Kamala Harris of California / vacant (until July 13, 2026); Governor Roy Cooper of North Carolina (from July 13, 2026) (Democratic): May 7, 2026 - January 20, 2029
July 13, 2026: Roy Cooper appointed as VP by a narrow margin
48. Businessman Vivek Ramaswamy of Ohio / Representative Anna Paulina Luna of Florida (Republican): January 20, 2029 - January 20, 2033
2028: def. President Kamala Harris of California / VP Roy Cooper of North Carolina (Democratic)
February 18, 2032: transgender rights activist Vanessa McCoy* murdered by alt-right militants, sparking the Vanessagate scandal
May 23, 2032: impeached by House following Vanessagate; would later be acquitted by Senate
49. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York / Senator Raphael Warnock of Georgia (Democratic/Unity): January 20, 2033 - January 20, 2041
2032: def. President Vivek Ramaswamy of Ohio / VP Anna Paulina Luna of Florida (Republican)
2033-2035: passing of the "Civil Amendments", including the Equal Rights Amendment and Equal Opportunity to Govern Amendment, alongside the activation of the NPVIC
2036: def. Senator Todd Young of Indiana / Representative Mike Gallagher of Wisconsin (Common Sense) & Far-right political commentator Nick Fuentes of Illinois / Far-right political commentator Jackson Hinkle of California (Patriot)
November 6, 2036: secession of the unrecognized National Patriot Front
January 20-21, 2037: the January Putsch; Ocasio-Cortez declares a "Unity Party" and mobilizes forces against the NPF
December 14, 2037: collapse of the NPF following the Battle of Omaha
50. Governor Wes Moore of Maryland (Unity/Justice) / Senator Julia Salazar of New York (Unity/Justice): January 20, 2041 - January 20, 2049
2040: def. Senator Dan Crenshaw of Texas / Representative Mike Lawler of New York (Conservative Alliance)
2044: def. Representative Julia E. Coleman of Minnesota / Representative Blake Moore of Utah (Conservative Alliance)
July 19, 2046: Unity Party partitioned into Justice, New Democratic, and National Liberal parties as part of the ongoing "Reconfederation Period"
51. Governor Marie Gluesenkamp-Perez of Washington [✝] / Representative Lina Hidalgo of Texas (National Liberal): January 20, 2049 - May 8, 2053
2048: first round def. Representative Maxwell Frost of Florida / Representative Zaynab Mohamed of Minnesota (Justice) & Senator Shevrin Jones of Florida / Governor Michelle Wu of Massachusetts (New Democratic) & Senator Austin Harris of Iowa / Senator Max Miller of Oregon (Conservative Alliance) & Environmental activist Gracie Jacobson of Mississippi* / Civil rights advocate Alan M. Jacinto of Arizona* (Green) / second round def. Senator Shevrin Jones of Florida / Governor Michelle Wu of Massachusetts (New Democratic) & Environmental activist Gracie Jacobson of Mississippi* / Civil rights advocate Alan M. Jacinto of Arizona* (Green)
September 5, 2049: Conservative Alliance partitioned into Christian Renewal and United Libertarian parties as part of the ongoing "Reconfederation Period"

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