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« Reply #1150 on: September 02, 2021, 11:22:52 AM »



Infratest/Dimap-poll

SPD: 25% (+4)
Union: 20% (-3)
GRÜNE: 16% (-1)
FDP: 13%
AfD: 12% (+1)
LINKE: 6% (-1)
Sonstige: 8%

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« Reply #1151 on: September 02, 2021, 11:33:52 AM »

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My results, and I got Animal Welfare first for some reason
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« Reply #1152 on: September 02, 2021, 12:45:48 PM »

Oh. my. lord. I love this timeline. CDU is in total disarray and Laschet's numbers are beyond pathetic.


Some more numbers from the Infratest survey:

Chancellor preference:




Most likeable and most authentic:




Strongest leader:




Most competent:



https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/deutschlandtrend/deutschlandtrend-2735.html
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« Reply #1153 on: September 02, 2021, 01:10:14 PM »

Extremely happy that SDP is going to win this. The Germans are making the right choice, punishing corrupt and elitarian boring politicians like Baerbock and Laschet, and going for someone competent, pragmatic and caring as Scholz. I certainly support SDP even if i didn't like them during most of my life.
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« Reply #1154 on: September 02, 2021, 01:19:30 PM »

Just did the Wahl-O-Mat:

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« Reply #1155 on: September 02, 2021, 01:27:57 PM »

The victories in Peru and Germany and the two Democratically elected senators in Georgia would single-handedly make 2021 not the worst year ever. Despite it being quite bad in terms of non-election events.

I know the election has yet to happen, but I think the only way from now on is up, because SPD is now seen as a viable candidate party, and given Scholz is very popular, and that many people have yet to decide. They probably break 30%. Some Greens and Linke voters might change from ship too, but we will see.
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« Reply #1156 on: September 02, 2021, 01:35:32 PM »

Extremely happy that SDP is going to win this. The Germans are making the right choice, punishing corrupt and elitarian boring politicians like Baerbock and Laschet, and going for someone competent, pragmatic and caring as Scholz. I certainly support SDP even if i didn't like them during most of my life.

Of course, corruption and elitarianism are totally unheard of in relation to Cum-ex-Olaf respectively Hartz-IV-Olaf...
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« Reply #1157 on: September 02, 2021, 01:35:47 PM »

Some Greens and Linke voters might change from ship too, but we will see.
I am surprised that you want Die Linke to fall below 5%.
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« Reply #1158 on: September 02, 2021, 01:36:49 PM »

The victories in Peru and Germany and the two Democratically elected senators in Georgia would single-handedly make 2021 not the worst year ever. Despite it being quite bad in terms of non-election events.

I know the election has yet to happen, but I think the only way from now on is up, because SPD is now seen as a viable candidate party, and given Scholz is very popular, and that many people have yet to decide. They probably break 30%. Some Greens and Linke voters might change from ship too, but we will see.

I wouldn't want to make a call at this point either. If the numbers don't move to Scholz' disadvantage until mid September, I don't see how Laschet is turning it around. Vote by mail is already beginning and will be at a record high this year, especially due to the pandemic (it was increasing even before). The Greens are probably out for good in the race for chancellor, though Baerbock has excellent chances to become foreign minister and vice chancellor in the next government regardless of who comes out on top.

If Scholz becomes chancellor, 2021 is probably the best year for me personally, as three individuals have become head of government that I all wanted since 2019. Back then, I twice voted for Scholz in the race for party leader and I obviously was for Joe Biden ever since he announced his presidential bid. And you can back to my posts from 2019, I wanted to Kathy Hochul to succeed Cuomo as governor even then.
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« Reply #1159 on: September 02, 2021, 01:39:05 PM »

Extremely happy that SDP is going to win this. The Germans are making the right choice, punishing corrupt and elitarian boring politicians like Baerbock and Laschet, and going for someone competent, pragmatic and caring as Scholz. I certainly support SDP even if i didn't like them during most of my life.

Of course, corruption and elitarianism are totally unheard of in relation to Cum-ex-Olaf respectively Hartz-IV-Olaf...

Genosse Olaf is a means, not an end.
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« Reply #1160 on: September 02, 2021, 01:51:18 PM »

According to Wahl-O-Mat, I am *checks notes* somehow a left-wing Catholic conservative

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« Reply #1161 on: September 02, 2021, 03:08:39 PM »

Extremely happy that SDP is going to win this. The Germans are making the right choice, punishing corrupt and elitarian boring politicians like Baerbock and Laschet, and going for someone competent, pragmatic and caring as Scholz. I certainly support SDP even if i didn't like them during most of my life.

Of course, corruption and elitarianism are totally unheard of in relation to Cum-ex-Olaf respectively Hartz-IV-Olaf...

Genosse Olaf is a means, not an end.
Yeah, probably. I took from Laki's words that he percieves him as an end.
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« Reply #1162 on: September 02, 2021, 03:22:02 PM »

By the way, I wonder how the CSU will perform in Bavaria if these numbers hold up or don't move that much anymore? In the end, it could very well show that Söder is a paper tiger, especially with a result of 35% or even less. Remember that Horst Seehofer basically had to resign as Minister-President and "rescue" himself as Interior Minister after the CSU ended up with 38% in the 2017 federal election. A result, that was considered a fullscale debacle at the time and helped Söder to take over the job as Bavaria's chief executive. A year later, Söder himself was responsible for one of the worst CSU result in a state election, just (by CSU standards) winning 37% of the vote.
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« Reply #1163 on: September 02, 2021, 03:30:41 PM »

By the way, I wonder how the CSU will perform in Bavaria if these numbers hold up or don't move that much anymore? In the end, it could very well show that Söder is a paper tiger, especially with a result of 35% or even less. Remember that Horst Seehofer basically had to resign as Minister-President and "rescue" himself as Interior Minister after the CSU ended up with 38% in the 2017 federal election. A result, that was considered a fullscale debacle at the time and helped Söder to take over the job as Bavaria's chief executive. A year later, Söder himself was responsible for one of the worst CSU result in a state election, just (by CSU standards) winning 37% of the vote.
INSA polls CDU and CSU separately sometimes and had CDU at 18 % (2017: 26.8 %) with CSU at 5 % (2017: 6.2 %) in their 23/08 poll. So while this would mean a slight decrease in CSU's vote share, its influence within the incoming CDU/CSU parliamentary group would increase.
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« Reply #1164 on: September 02, 2021, 06:07:49 PM »

I did Wahl-o-mat too. Forgot the exact percentages but it was:

Linke
Greens
Die Partei
SPD
FDP (eww)
Union
AFD

By the way, you guys need to get rid of the eszett, it makes everything unreadable. Ich Weiß, lol.
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« Reply #1165 on: September 02, 2021, 10:43:48 PM »

Got given the
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« Reply #1166 on: September 03, 2021, 01:30:47 AM »


By the way, you guys need to get rid of the eszett, it makes everything unreadable. Ich Weiß, lol.
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« Reply #1167 on: September 03, 2021, 01:44:35 AM »

By the way, you guys need to get rid of the eszett, it makes everything unreadable. Ich Weiß, lol.
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As they say, ignorance is bliß.
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« Reply #1168 on: September 03, 2021, 01:27:19 PM »

And... another day, another two polls with the SPD leading. Now with multiple pollsters having basically the same numbers confirms the state of the race as of now: The Union is stuck in the 20-22% range while the SPD is around 25%. The Greens are probably around 15-18% at this point.






Chancellor preference. Genosse Olaf is DOMINATING. That's his biggest lead so far:

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« Reply #1169 on: September 03, 2021, 01:29:27 PM »

Looking at the Chancellor support, I wouldn’t be surprised if Scholz/SPD get 30% in the end.

Or close to.
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« Reply #1170 on: September 03, 2021, 04:30:52 PM »

Scholz’s preferred chancellor leads are insane. When are the attacks going to start coming?
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« Reply #1171 on: September 03, 2021, 04:39:45 PM »

Scholz’s preferred chancellor leads are insane. When are the attacks going to start coming?

They've started already, they just don't seem to be very effective. Laschet has repeatedly attacked Scholz for not explicitly stating that he would not enter a coalition with the Linke. The Union has tried to portray Scholz as a closeted leftist OR as someone who would invite leftists into the government OR as someone who is secretly controlled by the leftists within the SPD. So far, few have found that convincing.
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« Reply #1172 on: September 03, 2021, 05:06:03 PM »

If present trends continue and the SPD rises up to the high-20s on the strength of Scholz's immense personal popularity - at whose expense does the SPD gain ground? I have to think that at 20% the CDU is near its floor - so the next most logical source of SPD votes would be from the Greens since even after some slippage they are still polling about 6-7 points about their usual level of support and I'll bet a lot of that inflated Green vote is from left of centre people who used to be SPD voters.
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« Reply #1173 on: September 03, 2021, 05:16:13 PM »

Couldn't some new low impact ministeries be devised if Linke were to be part of the government. You know, make a Linke person Minister of Fitness and Amateur Sport and another can be Minister of the Arts or Roads and Highways

Like others said, Germany doesn't work that way, but that is what Pedro Sánchez did here when he gave Podemos cabinet ministries. Just give them a bunch of useless do-nothing ministries that have one useful purpose at best.
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« Reply #1174 on: September 03, 2021, 05:34:39 PM »

Decided to do the Wahl-o-Mat and this has to be the weirdest result I've had in a political test ever, it's not even particularly close. I even removed the weights and the result was even dumber somehow

57% FDP
57% CDU/CSU
55% AfD
55% Grüne
55% Linke
53% SPD

Does this mean I am the ultimate German swing voter?  Grin

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