COVID-19 Megathread 6: Return of the Omicron

[Horus]

They're still zero cost! Why oppose a zero cost mitigation measure that works? We mandate people put clothes on outdoors, and clothes cost money. We mandate people put on seat belts in cars, and those cost money and are uncomfortable. It's still irrational to oppose mask mandates and it is incredibly disappointing that many Democrats have fully embraced the Trumpist position on this issue. Seems even Trump haters have fallen victim to Trumpist brainwashing.

You do realize when we're talking about the cost effectiveness of masks that we aren't just talking about the literal price of them, right? They aren't comfortable to wear for extended periods of time, especially in summer heat with how muggy the air gets, and not being able to fully read people's facial expressions makes regular day to day interactions with people stiff and awkward.

After over a year of having no other option, of course people are going to be excited about having the possibility of taking them off. This is why many of us, and not just "Trumpists," are telling you why extending mask mandates would be an awful idea- the idea of not wearing a mask is a vaccine incentive to many people. That's why so many people waited for mask mandates to be lifted to get their vaccines in the first place. Most places have no real way of enforcing mask mandates so if you enacted one nowadays, the only people who would be wearing them are people like you who are vaccinated but paranoid out of their minds from doomscrolling on social media and not the unvaccinated people who would actually benefit from wearing one.

This is the reality even now. I suspect that the vast majority of those still wearing masks at this point are people who are fully vaccinated, but who are paranoid and don't feel comfortable with not wearing them. Most of those who are unvaccinated, and have no intentions of getting the vaccine, are not wearing masks anymore. Thus, a renewed mask mandate would be impractical.

You say a mask mandate would be impractical to enforce, which is a reasonable argument, but then claim that a vaccine mandate is the way? Suppose today one is stopped at the door of a store by an employee with a surgical mask in hand and told that one must wear a mask to enter. What happens? Most will grumble, put on the mask, and go about their business, some will get angry, yell loudly, and leave, and a few would get their guns and shoot the employee. Now imagine the same situation with the employee asking for proof of vaccination? Just about everyone will be angry and have to leave since the vaccine card was not designed for portability and few carry it with them everywhere, many will yell loudly, and more than a nominal number will get their guns and fire. If new mask mandates are impractical then vaccine mandates would be just about impossible.

You have a strong desire to surrender to the anti vaxxers and not push back at all. And carrying an oversized card is far, far less intrusive than wearing a mask everywhere.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

They're still zero cost! Why oppose a zero cost mitigation measure that works? We mandate people put clothes on outdoors, and clothes cost money. We mandate people put on seat belts in cars, and those cost money and are uncomfortable. It's still irrational to oppose mask mandates and it is incredibly disappointing that many Democrats have fully embraced the Trumpist position on this issue. Seems even Trump haters have fallen victim to Trumpist brainwashing.

You do realize when we're talking about the cost effectiveness of masks that we aren't just talking about the literal price of them, right? They aren't comfortable to wear for extended periods of time, especially in summer heat with how muggy the air gets, and not being able to fully read people's facial expressions makes regular day to day interactions with people stiff and awkward.

After over a year of having no other option, of course people are going to be excited about having the possibility of taking them off. This is why many of us, and not just "Trumpists," are telling you why extending mask mandates would be an awful idea- the idea of not wearing a mask is a vaccine incentive to many people. That's why so many people waited for mask mandates to be lifted to get their vaccines in the first place. Most places have no real way of enforcing mask mandates so if you enacted one nowadays, the only people who would be wearing them are people like you who are vaccinated but paranoid out of their minds from doomscrolling on social media and not the unvaccinated people who would actually benefit from wearing one.

This is the reality even now. I suspect that the vast majority of those still wearing masks at this point are people who are fully vaccinated, but who are paranoid and don't feel comfortable with not wearing them. Most of those who are unvaccinated, and have no intentions of getting the vaccine, are not wearing masks anymore. Thus, a renewed mask mandate would be impractical.

You say a mask mandate would be impractical to enforce, which is a reasonable argument, but then claim that a vaccine mandate is the way? Suppose today one is stopped at the door of a store by an employee with a surgical mask in hand and told that one must wear a mask to enter. What happens? Most will grumble, put on the mask, and go about their business, some will get angry, yell loudly, and leave, and a few would get their guns and shoot the employee. Now imagine the same situation with the employee asking for proof of vaccination? Just about everyone will be angry and have to leave since the vaccine card was not designed for portability and few carry it with them everywhere, many will yell loudly, and more than a nominal number will get their guns and fire. If new mask mandates are impractical then vaccine mandates would be just about impossible.

You enforce a vaccine mandate by asking for the card in contexts where people are already being asked to show ID, and especially where public officials are already doing it, and where the person being asked for ID actually needs the help of the public official.  E.g. you would need a vaccine card to renew a drivers license or get on an airplane.

[ProudModerate2]

They're still zero cost! Why oppose a zero cost mitigation measure that works? We mandate people put clothes on outdoors, and clothes cost money. We mandate people put on seat belts in cars, and those cost money and are uncomfortable. It's still irrational to oppose mask mandates and it is incredibly disappointing that many Democrats have fully embraced the Trumpist position on this issue. Seems even Trump haters have fallen victim to Trumpist brainwashing.

You do realize when we're talking about the cost effectiveness of masks that we aren't just talking about the literal price of them, right? They aren't comfortable to wear for extended periods of time, especially in summer heat with how muggy the air gets, and not being able to fully read people's facial expressions makes regular day to day interactions with people stiff and awkward.

After over a year of having no other option, of course people are going to be excited about having the possibility of taking them off. This is why many of us, and not just "Trumpists," are telling you why extending mask mandates would be an awful idea- the idea of not wearing a mask is a vaccine incentive to many people. That's why so many people waited for mask mandates to be lifted to get their vaccines in the first place. Most places have no real way of enforcing mask mandates so if you enacted one nowadays, the only people who would be wearing them are people like you who are vaccinated but paranoid out of their minds from doomscrolling on social media and not the unvaccinated people who would actually benefit from wearing one.

This is the reality even now. I suspect that the vast majority of those still wearing masks at this point are people who are fully vaccinated, but who are paranoid and don't feel comfortable with not wearing them. Most of those who are unvaccinated, and have no intentions of getting the vaccine, are not wearing masks anymore. Thus, a renewed mask mandate would be impractical.

You say a mask mandate would be impractical to enforce, which is a reasonable argument, but then claim that a vaccine mandate is the way? Suppose today one is stopped at the door of a store by an employee with a surgical mask in hand and told that one must wear a mask to enter. What happens? Most will grumble, put on the mask, and go about their business, some will get angry, yell loudly, and leave, and a few would get their guns and shoot the employee. Now imagine the same situation with the employee asking for proof of vaccination? Just about everyone will be angry and have to leave since the vaccine card was not designed for portability and few carry it with them everywhere, many will yell loudly, and more than a nominal number will get their guns and fire. If new mask mandates are impractical then vaccine mandates would be just about impossible.

You have a strong desire to surrender to the anti vaxxers and not push back at all. And carrying an oversized card is far, far less intrusive than wearing a mask everywhere.

Before you can "carry a oversized card," you must get the vaccine first.
The point being made here is that the difficulty/problem would not necessarily be "the card," but just forcing (mandating) the injection.

I agree with others that there would be violence with a mandate of the vaccine. And this problem is a direct result of trump, conservative media, and Republicans in general. They have politicized the vaccine to the highest degree, making it sound like if you take it, you immediately turn into a liberal.
They will fight it hard. They will hit/assault store employees and security personnel. They will fight police, and riot at state and probably the federal capitol (again) over it. They will take up arms and kill. Not all of them, but I have no doubt there will be a noticeable increase, and more mass-shootings over the issue. This is the fear I have over a mandate.

[Hammy]

They're still zero cost! Why oppose a zero cost mitigation measure that works? We mandate people put clothes on outdoors, and clothes cost money. We mandate people put on seat belts in cars, and those cost money and are uncomfortable. It's still irrational to oppose mask mandates and it is incredibly disappointing that many Democrats have fully embraced the Trumpist position on this issue. Seems even Trump haters have fallen victim to Trumpist brainwashing.

You do realize when we're talking about the cost effectiveness of masks that we aren't just talking about the literal price of them, right? They aren't comfortable to wear for extended periods of time, especially in summer heat with how muggy the air gets, and not being able to fully read people's facial expressions makes regular day to day interactions with people stiff and awkward.

After over a year of having no other option, of course people are going to be excited about having the possibility of taking them off. This is why many of us, and not just "Trumpists," are telling you why extending mask mandates would be an awful idea- the idea of not wearing a mask is a vaccine incentive to many people. That's why so many people waited for mask mandates to be lifted to get their vaccines in the first place. Most places have no real way of enforcing mask mandates so if you enacted one nowadays, the only people who would be wearing them are people like you who are vaccinated but paranoid out of their minds from doomscrolling on social media and not the unvaccinated people who would actually benefit from wearing one.

This is the reality even now. I suspect that the vast majority of those still wearing masks at this point are people who are fully vaccinated, but who are paranoid and don't feel comfortable with not wearing them. Most of those who are unvaccinated, and have no intentions of getting the vaccine, are not wearing masks anymore. Thus, a renewed mask mandate would be impractical.

You say a mask mandate would be impractical to enforce, which is a reasonable argument, but then claim that a vaccine mandate is the way? Suppose today one is stopped at the door of a store by an employee with a surgical mask in hand and told that one must wear a mask to enter. What happens? Most will grumble, put on the mask, and go about their business, some will get angry, yell loudly, and leave, and a few would get their guns and shoot the employee. Now imagine the same situation with the employee asking for proof of vaccination? Just about everyone will be angry and have to leave since the vaccine card was not designed for portability and few carry it with them everywhere, many will yell loudly, and more than a nominal number will get their guns and fire. If new mask mandates are impractical then vaccine mandates would be just about impossible.

You have a strong desire to surrender to the anti vaxxers and not push back at all. And carrying an oversized card is far, far less intrusive than wearing a mask everywhere.

Before you can "carry a oversized card," you must get the vaccine first.
The point being made here is that the difficulty/problem would not necessarily be "the card," but just forcing (mandating) the injection.

I agree with others that there would be violence with a mandate of the vaccine. And this problem is a direct result of trump, conservative media, and Republicans in general. They have politicized the vaccine to the highest degree, making it sound like if you take it, you immediately turn into a liberal.
They will fight it hard. They will hit/assault store employees and security personnel. They will fight police, and riot at state and probably the federal capitol (again) over it. They will take up arms and kill. Not all of them, but I have no doubt there will be a noticeable increase, and more mass-shootings over the issue. This is the fear I have over a mandate.

This is why I see vaccine refusal as nothing short of treason.

[Lief 🗽]

Definitely seems like the ground has shifted on this stuff in the past week or so. Very nice to see! We need to stop punishing the vaccinateds with mask mandates, etc. and start punishing the unvaccinateds by shunning them from society/the economy.
https://twitter.com/jonlemire/status/1419728450621952000?s=21

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Kentucky and Ohio have announced they will not be requiring masks in schools this year. I'm sure Indiana is the same way.

I know my local district did not enforce it 100% last year, because there was always somebody on Facebook complaining about the lack of enforcement.

[pbrower2a]

The New York Times is offering its coverage of COVID-19 without a paywall as a public service.

No modern precedent
Covid-19 has caused the largest decline in U.S. life expectancy since World War II, the federal government reported yesterday. But Covid is not the only reason that life expectancy in this country fell last year to its lowest level in almost two decades.

Even before the pandemic, the U.S. was mired in an alarming period of rising mortality. It had no modern precedent: During the second half of the 2010s, life expectancy fell on a sustained basis for the first time since the fighting of World War II killed several hundred thousand Americans.


By The New York Times | Source: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Deaths of despair
It’s hard to imagine a more alarming sign of a society’s well-being than an inability to keep its citizens alive. While some of the reasons are mysterious, others are fairly clear. American society has become far more unequal than it used to be, and the recent increases in mortality are concentrated among working-class Americans, especially those without a four-year college degree.

For many, daily life lacks the structure, status and meaning that it once had, as the Princeton University economists Anne Case and Angus Deaton have explained. Many people feel less of a connection to an employer, a labor union, a church or community groups. They are less likely to be married. They are more likely to endure chronic pain and to report being unhappy.

These trends have led to a surge of “deaths of despair” (a phrase that Case and Deaton coined), from drugs, alcohol and suicide. Other health problems, including diabetes and strokes, have also surged among the working class. Notably, the class gaps in life expectancy seem to be starker in the U.S. than in most other rich countries.


By The New York Times | Source: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Covid, of course, has aggravated the country’s health inequalities. Working-class Americans were more likely to contract severe versions of Covid last year, for a mix of reasons. Many could not work from home. Others received lower-quality medical care after getting sick.

Since vaccines became widely available this year, working-class people have been less likely to get a shot. At first, vaccine access was playing a major role. Today, vaccine skepticism is the dominant explanation. (All of which suggests that Covid will continue to exacerbate health disparities beyond 2020; yesterday’s report on life expectancy did not include data for 2021.)

Race and sex

Covid has also caused sharp increases in racial inequality. As a Times article on the new report explains:

From 2019 to 2020, Hispanic people experienced the greatest drop in life expectancy — three years — and Black Americans saw a decrease of 2.9 years. White Americans experienced the smallest decline, of 1.2 years.

I exchanged emails with Case and Deaton yesterday, and they pointed out that racial patterns contain some nuances. Hispanic Americans live longer on average than non-Hispanic Americans, both Black and white — yet the impact of Covid was worst among Hispanics. “This is not simply a story of existing inequalities just getting worse,” Case and Deaton wrote.

The fact that many Hispanic people work in frontline jobs that exposed them to the virus surely plays a role. But Black workers also tend to hold these jobs. It’s unclear exactly why Covid has hit Hispanic communities somewhat harder than Black communities (and would be a worthy subject for academic research).

Covid has also killed more men than women, Case and Deaton pointed out, increasing the mortality gap between the sexes, after years in which it had mostly been shrinking. Life expectancy was 5.7 years longer for women last year, up from 5.1 years in 2019. The gap had fallen to a low of 4.8 years in the early 2010s.

The bottom line: Covid has both worsened and exposed a crisis in health inequality. But that crisis existed before Covid and will continue to exist when the pandemic is over.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Delta Variet, I have taken my vitamins and no signs of a Delta virus

[Horus]

If you still think the vaccinated need to mask up again after seeing this chart, I feel very sorry for you. Hopefully Fauci and crew won't cave to mask fetish hysteria.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Remember the hand sanitizer shortage last year?  I was in the local Kroger today, and they have a couple of huge bins near the entrance full of hand sanitizer bottles with signs up saying "FREE - Please take as many as you want."

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Remember the hand sanitizer shortage last year?  I was in the local Kroger today, and they have a couple of huge bins near the entrance full of hand sanitizer bottles with signs up saying "FREE - Please take as many as you want."

And masks are on the clearance rack now.

[Progressive Pessimist]

I don't know, I don't consider a 5-10% chance to be astronomically small.

"Astronomically" may have been the wrong word, but I was under the impression that hospitalizations of the vaccinated were only about 3% of all hospitalizations. That's still not really significant enough to justify the logic that some of the anti-vax and vaccine hesitant use when they hear so much about the breakthrough cases. I've noticed a particularly common response among them being: "well, if I can get COVID anyway, why is the vaccine even necessary?"

[Hammy]

I don't know, I don't consider a 5-10% chance to be astronomically small.

"Astronomically" may have been the wrong word, but I was under the impression that hospitalizations of the vaccinated were only about 3% of all hospitalizations. That's still not really significant enough to justify the logic that some of the anti-vax and vaccine hesitant use when they hear so much about the breakthrough cases. I've noticed a particularly common response among them being: "well, if I can get COVID anyway, why is the vaccine even necessary?"

The Israel study (which I believe is where the 5-10% is referencing) has a 7% likelihood of being vaccinated and being hospitalized, but the % of all hospitalizations that are vaccinated I believe is still around 1-2% here. That's around where it was the last time I saw any data at least.

Also worth noting one in three hospitalized COVID cases are people who were there for unrelated reasons and happened to test positive, as per CDC.

I also feel it's likely, though this is speculation, that a lot of the worse cases among younger and elderly are likely healthcare workers or those caring for unvaccinated relatives, as they're going to be exposed to a higher and more continuous viral load than the average person going out of the house.

[Calthrina950]

They're still zero cost! Why oppose a zero cost mitigation measure that works? We mandate people put clothes on outdoors, and clothes cost money. We mandate people put on seat belts in cars, and those cost money and are uncomfortable. It's still irrational to oppose mask mandates and it is incredibly disappointing that many Democrats have fully embraced the Trumpist position on this issue. Seems even Trump haters have fallen victim to Trumpist brainwashing.

You do realize when we're talking about the cost effectiveness of masks that we aren't just talking about the literal price of them, right? They aren't comfortable to wear for extended periods of time, especially in summer heat with how muggy the air gets, and not being able to fully read people's facial expressions makes regular day to day interactions with people stiff and awkward.

After over a year of having no other option, of course people are going to be excited about having the possibility of taking them off. This is why many of us, and not just "Trumpists," are telling you why extending mask mandates would be an awful idea- the idea of not wearing a mask is a vaccine incentive to many people. That's why so many people waited for mask mandates to be lifted to get their vaccines in the first place. Most places have no real way of enforcing mask mandates so if you enacted one nowadays, the only people who would be wearing them are people like you who are vaccinated but paranoid out of their minds from doomscrolling on social media and not the unvaccinated people who would actually benefit from wearing one.

This is the reality even now. I suspect that the vast majority of those still wearing masks at this point are people who are fully vaccinated, but who are paranoid and don't feel comfortable with not wearing them. Most of those who are unvaccinated, and have no intentions of getting the vaccine, are not wearing masks anymore. Thus, a renewed mask mandate would be impractical.

You say a mask mandate would be impractical to enforce, which is a reasonable argument, but then claim that a vaccine mandate is the way? Suppose today one is stopped at the door of a store by an employee with a surgical mask in hand and told that one must wear a mask to enter. What happens? Most will grumble, put on the mask, and go about their business, some will get angry, yell loudly, and leave, and a few would get their guns and shoot the employee. Now imagine the same situation with the employee asking for proof of vaccination? Just about everyone will be angry and have to leave since the vaccine card was not designed for portability and few carry it with them everywhere, many will yell loudly, and more than a nominal number will get their guns and fire. If new mask mandates are impractical then vaccine mandates would be just about impossible.

You have a strong desire to surrender to the anti vaxxers and not push back at all. And carrying an oversized card is far, far less intrusive than wearing a mask everywhere.

I've been carrying my CDC vaccination card in my wallet for months now, and I don't even give a second thought to it.

[Calthrina950]

They're still zero cost! Why oppose a zero cost mitigation measure that works? We mandate people put clothes on outdoors, and clothes cost money. We mandate people put on seat belts in cars, and those cost money and are uncomfortable. It's still irrational to oppose mask mandates and it is incredibly disappointing that many Democrats have fully embraced the Trumpist position on this issue. Seems even Trump haters have fallen victim to Trumpist brainwashing.

You do realize when we're talking about the cost effectiveness of masks that we aren't just talking about the literal price of them, right? They aren't comfortable to wear for extended periods of time, especially in summer heat with how muggy the air gets, and not being able to fully read people's facial expressions makes regular day to day interactions with people stiff and awkward.

After over a year of having no other option, of course people are going to be excited about having the possibility of taking them off. This is why many of us, and not just "Trumpists," are telling you why extending mask mandates would be an awful idea- the idea of not wearing a mask is a vaccine incentive to many people. That's why so many people waited for mask mandates to be lifted to get their vaccines in the first place. Most places have no real way of enforcing mask mandates so if you enacted one nowadays, the only people who would be wearing them are people like you who are vaccinated but paranoid out of their minds from doomscrolling on social media and not the unvaccinated people who would actually benefit from wearing one.

This is the reality even now. I suspect that the vast majority of those still wearing masks at this point are people who are fully vaccinated, but who are paranoid and don't feel comfortable with not wearing them. Most of those who are unvaccinated, and have no intentions of getting the vaccine, are not wearing masks anymore. Thus, a renewed mask mandate would be impractical.

You say a mask mandate would be impractical to enforce, which is a reasonable argument, but then claim that a vaccine mandate is the way? Suppose today one is stopped at the door of a store by an employee with a surgical mask in hand and told that one must wear a mask to enter. What happens? Most will grumble, put on the mask, and go about their business, some will get angry, yell loudly, and leave, and a few would get their guns and shoot the employee. Now imagine the same situation with the employee asking for proof of vaccination? Just about everyone will be angry and have to leave since the vaccine card was not designed for portability and few carry it with them everywhere, many will yell loudly, and more than a nominal number will get their guns and fire. If new mask mandates are impractical then vaccine mandates would be just about impossible.

I think you underestimate the number of people who wouldn't be happy about a mask mandate now. As has been pointed out on here, many people got the vaccine precisely because they were promised that mask mandates would end if they did. They would not be happy to have to wear them again after having done what they should have done and being told what they were told.

[ProudModerate2]

They're still zero cost! Why oppose a zero cost mitigation measure that works? We mandate people put clothes on outdoors, and clothes cost money. We mandate people put on seat belts in cars, and those cost money and are uncomfortable. It's still irrational to oppose mask mandates and it is incredibly disappointing that many Democrats have fully embraced the Trumpist position on this issue. Seems even Trump haters have fallen victim to Trumpist brainwashing.

You do realize when we're talking about the cost effectiveness of masks that we aren't just talking about the literal price of them, right? They aren't comfortable to wear for extended periods of time, especially in summer heat with how muggy the air gets, and not being able to fully read people's facial expressions makes regular day to day interactions with people stiff and awkward.

After over a year of having no other option, of course people are going to be excited about having the possibility of taking them off. This is why many of us, and not just "Trumpists," are telling you why extending mask mandates would be an awful idea- the idea of not wearing a mask is a vaccine incentive to many people. That's why so many people waited for mask mandates to be lifted to get their vaccines in the first place. Most places have no real way of enforcing mask mandates so if you enacted one nowadays, the only people who would be wearing them are people like you who are vaccinated but paranoid out of their minds from doomscrolling on social media and not the unvaccinated people who would actually benefit from wearing one.

This is the reality even now. I suspect that the vast majority of those still wearing masks at this point are people who are fully vaccinated, but who are paranoid and don't feel comfortable with not wearing them. Most of those who are unvaccinated, and have no intentions of getting the vaccine, are not wearing masks anymore. Thus, a renewed mask mandate would be impractical.

You say a mask mandate would be impractical to enforce, which is a reasonable argument, but then claim that a vaccine mandate is the way? Suppose today one is stopped at the door of a store by an employee with a surgical mask in hand and told that one must wear a mask to enter. What happens? Most will grumble, put on the mask, and go about their business, some will get angry, yell loudly, and leave, and a few would get their guns and shoot the employee. Now imagine the same situation with the employee asking for proof of vaccination? Just about everyone will be angry and have to leave since the vaccine card was not designed for portability and few carry it with them everywhere, many will yell loudly, and more than a nominal number will get their guns and fire. If new mask mandates are impractical then vaccine mandates would be just about impossible.

I think you underestimate the number of people who wouldn't be happy about a mask mandate now. As has been pointed out on here, many people got the vaccine precisely because they were promised that mask mandates would end if they did. They would not be happy to have to wear them again after having done what they should have done and being told what they were told.

Can someone explain or show me videos about this "promise."
I'm not trying to be snarky or negative, but I'm serious that I don't remember hearing "promises."

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Can someone explain or show me videos about this "promise."
I'm not trying to be snarky or negative, but I'm serious that I don't remember hearing "promises."

They promised it all the time.

It's just like how they promised lockdowns would be only 2 weeks.

It's like how they promised school would be 100% normal by New Year's 2021.

It's been a trail of broken promises and lies since day one.

[Hammy]

Can someone explain or show me videos about this "promise."
I'm not trying to be snarky or negative, but I'm serious that I don't remember hearing "promises."

They promised it all the time.

It's just like how they promised lockdowns would be only 2 weeks.

It's like how they promised school would be 100% normal by New Year's 2021.

It's been a trail of broken promises and lies since day one.

Funny how much anger you have over something that is pure fantasy. None of this was promised, aside from right wingers promising COVID would just magically go away.

[ProudModerate2]

Can someone explain or show me videos about this "promise."
I'm not trying to be snarky or negative, but I'm serious that I don't remember hearing "promises."

They promised it all the time.
It's just like how they promised lockdowns would be only 2 weeks.
It's like how they promised school would be 100% normal by New Year's 2021.
It's been a trail of broken promises and lies since day one.

Who is "they"?
Are they top government or health officials? Post videos of "promises."
I know people have made some "hopes" or "desires" that things can become (more) normal, but not outright "promises." I see nothing wrong with officials expressing positive hopes, but only the foolish would believe that everything would return to a a pure and perfect world, with something as complex and world-wide deadly as Covid.

[emailking]

Trump's plan was 15 days to slow the spread. As far as I know, that's where the 2 weeks talking point comes from.

[roxas11]

Can someone explain or show me videos about this "promise."
I'm not trying to be snarky or negative, but I'm serious that I don't remember hearing "promises."

They promised it all the time.

It's just like how they promised lockdowns would be only 2 weeks.

It's like how they promised school would be 100% normal by New Year's 2021.

It's been a trail of broken promises and lies since day one.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Funny how much anger you have over something that is pure fantasy.

I'm not too happy about being lied to by public officials and the media.

[Hammy]

Funny how much anger you have over something that is pure fantasy.

I'm not too happy about being lied to by public officials and the media.

Blame Trumpism, that's where the "this will go away" garbage came from in the first place. The media at no point promised anything--if anything they've been playing up the "this will go on forever" fear porn.

[ProudModerate2]

Video: Florida Republican Rep. Byron Donalds defends fact he isn't getting vaccinated.

Click here to watch ... https://us.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/07/27/byron-donalds-florida-coronavirus-vaccine-cuomo-intv-vpx.cnn

I can not believe that we are this far and deep into this global pandemic, and we still have stupidity like this.
Completely mind boggling.

[ProudModerate2]

Video: Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson was booed on stage after he said that the Covid-19 vaccine doesn't affect fertility.

Click here to watch ... https://us.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/07/27/asa-hutchinson-arkansas-covid-vaccine-boo-dons-take-dlt-vpx.cnn

More video, more stupidity.
This time from a crowd of Arkansas citizens. Yes Arkansas ... need I say more?