Spanish elections and politics

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I find the one of the more interesting regional oddity is C's pathetic result in its home region.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

I find the one of the more interesting regional oddity is C's pathetic result in its home region.

C's vote in Catalonia is limited by the fact that they are the mostly openly anti-Catalan language party.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Podemos overtakes IU-UP in Marinaleda : all is lost for IU.

PCE: RIP HP

[SPQR]

It's more that PODEMOS are weakest in the Castillian heartland.

They do very well in the most autonomous of communities,which if I am not wrong are also those with an alternative official language.
Galicia,Catalunya,Pais Vasco,Communitat Valenciana,Baleares,Canarias...

[Iannis]

It looks curious, but the vote to Podemos in provinces seems positively correlated with the GDP per capita as I found in some infographic I made

http://www.termometropolitico.it/infografiche

[Zanas]

I think it is also positively correlated to air moisture, seeing the maps.

[warandwar]

I think it is also positively correlated to air moisture, seeing the maps.

Well known fact that moister air correlates to less strong hegemonic power structures.

[DL]

I find the one of the more interesting regional oddity is C's pathetic result in its home region.

C's vote in Catalonia is limited by the fact that they are the mostly openly anti-Catalan language party.

I didn't think that C's were against the use of the Catalan language, just against Catalonia becoming an independent country - there's a big difference!

[Donnie]

final prediction:

Water            28%  final: 28.7%
Aubergines    21%  final: 20.7%
Strawberries  20%  final: 22%
Oranges         14% final: 13.9%
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                                                                       avg. error: +/- 0.8 % - i can live with that
turnout: 67%

[RogueBeaver]

PSOE barons are publicly dissatisfied with Sanchez, with Gonzalez and Rubalcaba urging Sanchez to allow a PP minority. Will they wield a knife?

[MaxQue]

PSOE barons are publicly dissatisfied with Sanchez, with Gonzalez and Rubalcaba urging Sanchez to allow a PP minority. Will they wield a knife?

If PSOE backs a PP government, PSOE is dead. The new PASOK.

[Antonio the Sixth]

God, senile third-way politicians are the worst.

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Yes, Sanchez; definitely listed to Felipe "Corruption" González and incomptent failure Gonzales.

[Zinneke]

 I imagine Podemos struggled in Andalucia because they are painted by PSOE as a threat to the traditional  welfare state as facilitators to its federalisation. We have a similar thing with our socialist party in Wallonia. People who benefit from government aid (and European aid) do not want multi-level governance.

Not sure how C's bombed in Catalunya, considering how they scored really well in the regionals there. PP were last too...

[RogueBeaver]

Now Diaz is warning Sanchez that pact decisions are made by the PSOE federal council, not him unilaterally.

[MaxQue]

I suspect it would have been better for PSOE if that bully had lost last regional elections.

[SATW]

1. can't believe I missed these elections
2. amazing and hilarious results
3. i guess i hope PP stays in power but i wont cry if they dont. jose maria aznar was the last PM I liked.

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Lmao CuP

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-spain-catalonia-idUKKBN0UA0NQ20151227

[Tetro Kornbluth]

http://www.elconfidencialdigital.com/politica/Felipe-Gonzalez-PP-PSOE-Podemos_0_2624737511.html

Felipe Gonzales leaps further into senility and calls for a pact with the PP followed with electoral reform to a two round system a la France to make sure that PODEMOS never obtains power (because Marine Le Pen and PODEMOS are the same threat apparently)

[Nanwe]

Lmao CuP

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-spain-catalonia-idUKKBN0UA0NQ20151227

Yes, the pròces has reached mathematic-defying proportions... It's ridiculous. It seems rather likely that Catalonia will have to have elections again. And the nationalists might take a huge beating.

[Velasco]

Pedro Sánchez, who is under big pressure from all sides including his own party, faced PSOE barons this morning. "Territorial integrity of Spain is not up for debate":

http://elpais.com/elpais/2015/12/28/inenglish/1451310221_233637.html

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Meanwhile Pablo Iglesias met Mariano Rajoy at La Moncloa. Afterwards Iglesias told reporters that he is "massively dissapointed" with Pedro Sánchez. Mr Iglesias won't give up on the issue of the referendum in Catalonia -that is unacceptable for the socialists, especially for 'barons' like Susana Díaz- and demands that PSOE takes a position on a number of social measures that Podemos wants to implement.

http://elpais.com/elpais/2015/12/28/inenglish/1451308259_640441.html

On a side note, I find some demagoguery in the way that referendum proposal is depicted by naysayers. PP, PSOE and C's spokepersons say that Podemos aims to break Spain, even though Mr Iglesias stated he would campaign against independence in case the consultation was to take place. On the other hand it's likely that Pablo Iglesias aims a new election in which his party could grow at the expense of the Spanish socialists (and PP at the expense of C's), hence some people think that he says referendum is not negotiable because he kows it's a condition PSOE cannot accept. In any case Podemos could not give up without alienating regional allies, especially the Catalan and namely Barcelona Mayor Ada Colau.  

Mariano Rajoy met with Albert Rivera. The front man of Ciudadanos stated that his party will abstain in Rajoy's investiture and demands that socialists do the same, allowing PP leader to continue as PM in a second vote. Rivera would like  an entente PP-PSOE-C's in order to provide stability, enact some reforms and preserve the integrity of Spain. This option seems to be very popular in some media (yesterday I read Mario Vargas Llosa supporting it).

[Velasco]

Lmao CuP

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-spain-catalonia-idUKKBN0UA0NQ20151227

Yes, the pròces has reached mathematic-defying proportions... It's ridiculous. It seems rather likely that Catalonia will have to have elections again. And the nationalists might take a huge beating.

Catalan separatists never disappoint me

[Filuwaúrdjan]

God, senile third-way politicians are the worst.

These people aren't so much third way as generic small c conservatives.

[Zinneke]

Lmao CuP

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-spain-catalonia-idUKKBN0UA0NQ20151227

Yes, the pròces has reached mathematic-defying proportions... It's ridiculous. It seems rather likely that Catalonia will have to have elections again. And the nationalists might take a huge beating.

Why would the nationalists take a beating? Especially in light of national (i.e Madrid-based) politics?

[Nanwe]

Lmao CuP

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-spain-catalonia-idUKKBN0UA0NQ20151227

Yes, the pròces has reached mathematic-defying proportions... It's ridiculous. It seems rather likely that Catalonia will have to have elections again. And the nationalists might take a huge beating.

Why would the nationalists take a beating? Especially in light of national (i.e Madrid-based) politics?

Because they did in the general election and because the few polls there are seem to indicate so. I don't mean they'll crush but well...

Btw, elections will be held in March, the CUP just announced it will vote 5 for and 5 against, meaning, Mas doesn't have a majority or a plurality (for the second round) and since by next Sunday, the deadline will be met, new elections will be held automatically, in March. Fun times. CiU is about to be eclipsed by ERC as the main Catalanist party. And I venture to say that CDC will rid itself of Mas and might become (once again) a determining part of the Spanish process of government-formation.