Spanish elections and politics

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A question worth asking is whether Podemos can sustain the support they're currently registering in the polls; those that rise quickly can fall just as fast.

(though, against that, it can be pointed out that the government is unpopular and that the PSOE doesn't seem capable of articulating whatever the hell it is they stand for these days).

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Mostly they're just populist garbage. But when the other parties on offer are borderline criminal conspiracies or actual cults (sometimes both!) I guess the appeal is no great mystery.

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Rajoy's marvelous response when asked about corruption allegations :  "What does that have to do with the economy?" Indeed.

That may have made my day...

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Voters choose chaos it is then.

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Podemos overtakes IU-UP in Marinaleda : all is lost for IU.

PCE: RIP HP

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God, senile third-way politicians are the worst.

These people aren't so much third way as generic small c conservatives.

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This will end well I'm sure.

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Hey, Portugal was a pleasant surprise. There is some hope (though I'll probably regret saying this).

Stranger things have certainly happened. Yet I look at certain elements in both Left parties and then I look at the general constitutional crisis that Spain will be embroiled in for years no matter what and then I worry...

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How long till the PSOE does the honest thing and renames itself the Country Party?

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It's pretty clear that the PSOE was screwed either way. The question for them is more how they got into this mess rather than which of the extremely unappealing options they eventually chose...

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I've made this joke before, but what's Spanish for 'Country Party'? Would be a more accurate name by this point.

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as I mentioned to Tender, people are ignoring C's for some reason.

Because it doesn't fit The Discourse.

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It's generally an error to get obsessed with labels. 'Centrist' has never been a particularly useful term, but has become entirely meaningless due to its use as a term of abuse by performative cretins in Rose Emoji Twitter. 'Left' and 'Right' in a Spanish context are mostly historical detritus - relics of the Civil War - rather than sure indications of policy preferences. If we're discussing the C's, then the thing to note is that no one who votes for them associates them with traditional political divisions; in fact that, along with the extremely hard line they take on the national question, is the whole point.

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Then again I think cordon sanitaires are undemocratic. Andalusians have voted for a PP-Cs-Vox government and that's what they should get.

I don't think that's entirely true, but they've certainly voted for political paralysis and they'll get that no matter...

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Andalusians voted the composition of the regional parliament, not for specific coalition agreements.

Yes, this is important. No blocs were on the ballot, the electorate clearly did not vote as if they existed.