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« Reply #1725 on: April 12, 2024, 09:29:21 PM »

That conversation I think we've already heard that tape from, in 2018 I think.
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« Reply #1726 on: April 13, 2024, 01:43:54 PM »

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« Reply #1727 on: April 13, 2024, 06:26:14 PM »

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« Reply #1728 on: April 13, 2024, 06:30:05 PM »

Definitely a violation wrt to Cohen. I don't know if Pomerantz is covered.
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« Reply #1729 on: April 14, 2024, 01:24:27 PM »

Two-thirds of registered voters say Trump’s hush money charges are serious
Reuters/Ipsos poll finds one-quarter of potential Trump voters say they would not vote for him if he was serving time in prison

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Ahead of former President Donald Trump’s trial next week, the latest Reuters/Ipsos poll finds that nearly two-thirds of registered voters (64%) say the charges—for allegedly falsifying business records around hush money to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal during the 2016 presidential election—are serious, including 36% who say they are very serious. Registered voters share similar concerns around the other three criminal charges against Trump, including allegedly soliciting election fraud, pressuring Georgia state officials to overturn the presidential election, and illegally removing classified documents from the White House and keeping them at a private home after leaving office. About seven in ten say each of these additional charges is serious, and at least half say each charge is very serious.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/two-thirds-registered-voters-say-trumps-hush-money-charges-are-serious
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« Reply #1730 on: April 14, 2024, 04:52:25 PM »

Two-thirds of registered voters say Trump’s hush money charges are serious
Reuters/Ipsos poll finds one-quarter of potential Trump voters say they would not vote for him if he was serving time in prison

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Ahead of former President Donald Trump’s trial next week, the latest Reuters/Ipsos poll finds that nearly two-thirds of registered voters (64%) say the charges—for allegedly falsifying business records around hush money to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal during the 2016 presidential election—are serious, including 36% who say they are very serious. Registered voters share similar concerns around the other three criminal charges against Trump, including allegedly soliciting election fraud, pressuring Georgia state officials to overturn the presidential election, and illegally removing classified documents from the White House and keeping them at a private home after leaving office. About seven in ten say each of these additional charges is serious, and at least half say each charge is very serious.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/two-thirds-registered-voters-say-trumps-hush-money-charges-are-serious

Encouraging, if true. Though the caveat of "if he were serving time in prison" may be important to note. Even if he is found guilty before the election, I don't think he'd be sentenced by then. But maybe a conviction would be enough to reflect the concerns of this poll.
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« Reply #1731 on: April 14, 2024, 06:45:26 PM »



The weird thing is that Michael Cohen literally has been prosecuted for LYING.
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« Reply #1732 on: April 14, 2024, 07:00:39 PM »



The weird thing is that Michael Cohen literally has been prosecuted for LYING.

"You're telling me the legal record of this case establishes that the prosecution's star witness was sentenced to 3 years in federal prison for unlawful election influence for my benefit at my direction by committing these same campaign-finance violations for which I'm now on trial for covering-up? Wow. I didn't know that.... you're telling me now for the first time."

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« Reply #1733 on: April 14, 2024, 09:35:11 PM »

Trump attorneys trolled after they subpoena wrong Jeremy Rosenberg for hush money trial
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Donald Trump’s lawyers have been trolled by a random man in Brooklyn after they subpoenaed him by mistake for the former president’s hush money trial.

In a filing from the Manhattan District Attorney’s office on Tuesday, prosecutors revealed that Mr Trump’s attorney Todd Blanche had tried to subpoena former District Attorney Supervising Rackets Investigator Jeremy Rosenberg in March, to seek files related to the Republican presidential candidate’s former lawyer Michael Cohen.

However, it transpired that Mr Blanche made an embarrassing mistake – sending the subpoena to a man from Brooklyn also called Jeremy Rosenberg.

While the man shares the same name as the former DA’s office investigator, he has zero connection to the criminal case against the former president.

I'm torn between wondering if this is a deliberate tactic ("Your Honor, we need more time, because we're too stupid to defend our client effectively") or if it's just that Donnie Dumbf**k's lawyers are as stupid as he is.
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« Reply #1734 on: April 15, 2024, 05:55:47 AM »

Happy Trump Trial Day to those who celebrate it.
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« Reply #1735 on: April 15, 2024, 07:56:40 AM »

Trump’s first criminal trial is a historic and solemn moment for America

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The United States will cross a historic threshold on Monday when for the first time a former president goes on criminal trial in a case laced with fateful significance because Donald Trump could be back in the Oval Office next year.

When the presumptive GOP nominee walks into court for the start of jury selection, he and the country will enter a new state of reality as legal and political worlds collide in a trial almost guaranteed to deepen Americans’ bitter ideological estrangement.

The trial, related to hush money payments to an adult film actress before the 2016 election, will mark yet another extraordinary twist in the story of Trump, whose incessant testing of the limits of presidential decorum and the law has caused nearly nine years of political tumult and may still have years left to run. It raises the possibility that, depending on the jury’s verdict, the Republican nominee in the 2024 presidential election could be a convicted felon. And given the case’s subject matter — details about a payment to a woman who alleged that she had a sexual relationship with Trump, which he denies — it could reflect poorly on Trump’s character...

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/14/politics/trump-first-criminal-trial-analysis/index.html
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« Reply #1736 on: April 15, 2024, 08:06:46 AM »

Let's be clear here: I don't like to defend Trump but this Trial is a complete waste of time and joke. Alvin Bragg should have never brought this forward.

There are other Trials who will be far more consequential, if they happen, compared to this one.

Expect Trumps Poll Numbers to go up because this Trial is a Scam!
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« Reply #1737 on: April 15, 2024, 08:09:48 AM »

Let's be clear here: I don't like to defend Trump but this Trial is a complete waste of time and joke. Alvin Bragg should have never brought this forward.

There are other Trials who will be far more consequential, if they happen, compared to this one.

Expect Trumps Poll Numbers to go up because this Trial is a Scam!

This line of thinking makes no sense. So we should just not hold him accountable in one space because there will theoretically be options to hold him accountable somewhere else?

Trump committed a crime here. He needs to be held accountable, whether you think the case is valid or not.
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« Reply #1738 on: April 15, 2024, 08:11:47 AM »

Let's be clear here: I don't like to defend Trump but this Trial is a complete waste of time and joke. Alvin Bragg should have never brought this forward.

There are other Trials who will be far more consequential, if they happen, compared to this one.

Expect Trumps Poll Numbers to go up because this Trial is a Scam!

This line of thinking makes no sense. So we should just not hold him accountable in one space because there will theoretically be options to hold him accountable somewhere else?

Trump committed a crime here. He needs to be held accountable, whether you think the case is valid or not.
The case is not valid! It's a joke! Expect Trumps Lawyers filling for mistrial in the first few Days of it!
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« Reply #1739 on: April 15, 2024, 08:15:28 AM »

Let's be clear here: I don't like to defend Trump but this Trial is a complete waste of time and joke. Alvin Bragg should have never brought this forward.

There are other Trials who will be far more consequential, if they happen, compared to this one.

Expect Trumps Poll Numbers to go up because this Trial is a Scam!

This line of thinking makes no sense. So we should just not hold him accountable in one space because there will theoretically be options to hold him accountable somewhere else?

Trump committed a crime here. He needs to be held accountable, whether you think the case is valid or not.
The case is not valid! It's a joke! Expect Trumps Lawyers filling for mistrial in the first few Days of it!

It is valid; that's why a grand jury indicted him.
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« Reply #1740 on: April 15, 2024, 08:31:26 AM »

As I posted before 2/3 of registered voters think it is a serious case per a Reuters poll. It's a matter of opinion of suppose, but most voters do not think it is a joke.
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« Reply #1741 on: April 15, 2024, 08:42:02 AM »

Two-thirds of registered voters say Trump’s hush money charges are serious
Reuters/Ipsos poll finds one-quarter of potential Trump voters say they would not vote for him if he was serving time in prison

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Ahead of former President Donald Trump’s trial next week, the latest Reuters/Ipsos poll finds that nearly two-thirds of registered voters (64%) say the charges—for allegedly falsifying business records around hush money to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal during the 2016 presidential election—are serious, including 36% who say they are very serious. Registered voters share similar concerns around the other three criminal charges against Trump, including allegedly soliciting election fraud, pressuring Georgia state officials to overturn the presidential election, and illegally removing classified documents from the White House and keeping them at a private home after leaving office. About seven in ten say each of these additional charges is serious, and at least half say each charge is very serious.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/two-thirds-registered-voters-say-trumps-hush-money-charges-are-serious

Hard luck. The left-wing Quinnipiac begs to differ. Nearly 2/3rds of Americans say the charges are politically motivated, including 70% of indies.

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« Reply #1742 on: April 15, 2024, 08:45:05 AM »

Happy Trump Trial Day to those who celebrate it.

Trump made history again. Big league.
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« Reply #1743 on: April 15, 2024, 08:50:25 AM »

Two-thirds of registered voters say Trump’s hush money charges are serious
Reuters/Ipsos poll finds one-quarter of potential Trump voters say they would not vote for him if he was serving time in prison

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Ahead of former President Donald Trump’s trial next week, the latest Reuters/Ipsos poll finds that nearly two-thirds of registered voters (64%) say the charges—for allegedly falsifying business records around hush money to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal during the 2016 presidential election—are serious, including 36% who say they are very serious. Registered voters share similar concerns around the other three criminal charges against Trump, including allegedly soliciting election fraud, pressuring Georgia state officials to overturn the presidential election, and illegally removing classified documents from the White House and keeping them at a private home after leaving office. About seven in ten say each of these additional charges is serious, and at least half say each charge is very serious.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/two-thirds-registered-voters-say-trumps-hush-money-charges-are-serious

Hard luck. The left-wing Quinnipiac begs to differ. Nearly 2/3rds of Americans say the charges are politically motivated, including 70% of indies.


Even 29 % of Democrats say its purely "Politics".

BOTH, DA Alvin Bragg & NY AG Letitia James campaigned on quote "Getting Trump" unquote. For this reason alone the Trial should be dismissed.

Bragg has a very weak case anyways. There are other Cases where I wholeheartedly support a Conviction of Trump like the Docs & J6 Cases but not in this one.
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« Reply #1744 on: April 15, 2024, 08:50:37 AM »

Two-thirds of registered voters say Trump’s hush money charges are serious
Reuters/Ipsos poll finds one-quarter of potential Trump voters say they would not vote for him if he was serving time in prison

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Ahead of former President Donald Trump’s trial next week, the latest Reuters/Ipsos poll finds that nearly two-thirds of registered voters (64%) say the charges—for allegedly falsifying business records around hush money to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal during the 2016 presidential election—are serious, including 36% who say they are very serious. Registered voters share similar concerns around the other three criminal charges against Trump, including allegedly soliciting election fraud, pressuring Georgia state officials to overturn the presidential election, and illegally removing classified documents from the White House and keeping them at a private home after leaving office. About seven in ten say each of these additional charges is serious, and at least half say each charge is very serious.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/two-thirds-registered-voters-say-trumps-hush-money-charges-are-serious

Hard luck. The left-wing Quinnipiac begs to differ. Nearly 2/3rds of Americans say the charges are politically motivated, including 70% of indies.



This question is a misnomer, b/c these things can be mutually exclusive. You can believe something has an air of politics to it while also believing it's legitimate

also "left-wing Quinnipiac" okay sis lol
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« Reply #1745 on: April 15, 2024, 08:53:53 AM »

Let's be clear here: I don't like to defend Trump but this Trial is a complete waste of time and joke. Alvin Bragg should have never brought this forward.

There are other Trials who will be far more consequential, if they happen, compared to this one.

Expect Trumps Poll Numbers to go up because this Trial is a Scam!

This line of thinking makes no sense. So we should just not hold him accountable in one space because there will theoretically be options to hold him accountable somewhere else?

Trump committed a crime here. He needs to be held accountable, whether you think the case is valid or not.

That's the problem with your line of thinking - i don't think he broke any laws in this case, but even if he did, the problem is the law itself. It's a stupid law. Nobody was harmed, nor was anyone's property taken and/or destroyed. The only person who lost something was Trump, who spent his money reimbursing Cohen. You may find it sleazy and immoral, but certainly not something we should waste taxpayer money trying to prosecute. Especially when this DA in question has no problem refusing to prosecute ACTUAL crimes, like muggings, stabbings, assaults, etc.
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« Reply #1746 on: April 15, 2024, 09:02:50 AM »

That's the problem with your line of thinking - i don't think he broke any laws in this case, but even if he did, the problem is the law itself. It's a stupid law. Nobody was harmed, nor was anyone's property taken and/or destroyed. The only person who lost something was Trump, who spent his money reimbursing Cohen. You may find it sleazy and immoral, but certainly not something we should waste taxpayer money trying to prosecute. Especially when this DA in question has no problem refusing to prosecute ACTUAL crimes, like muggings, stabbings, assaults, etc.

Wait, which law is it you're saying is a stupid law but Trump didn't break it? Falsifying business records?
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« Reply #1747 on: April 15, 2024, 09:20:03 AM »

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« Reply #1748 on: April 15, 2024, 09:23:16 AM »

There are so many things wrong with this case and I have some quite choice words for Mr. Bragg, but the most glaring problems are 1) Statue of Limitations and 2) NY doesn't have jurisdiction over a federal matter, and the Feds declined to prosecute this case. I think its incumbent upon SCOTUS to step in and shut the case down now. Usually, they don't get involved until the appeals process, but given the unprecedented nature of this case plus the horrific ramifications it could have on our body politic, its best to be shut down now.

In the meantime, I think it's incumbent upon GOP governors to use their powers to punish the state of New York. Shut down flights originating from NYC from landing in their states. The NY-FL air market is huge, so that would have an impact. Plus, you have huge airline hubs in TX and GA that would cause a harrowing effect on NY. Cancel all state-funded travel to NY. Not only does this apply to government employees, but also publicly funded universities. Any NCAA sporting events in NY would be effected. And make clear these sanctions will not be lifted until the case is dismissed.
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« Reply #1749 on: April 15, 2024, 09:28:04 AM »

^ Well, not that anyone believed you were an impartial observer before, but after "we should stop all New York flights from landing"...
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