NY: Trump on Trial!

[Progressive Pessimist]

He wants to bait the judge into saying something that could cause change of venue or even a mistrial

Nah, Trump doesn't think that far ahead. He just can't resist getting his anger out in whatever way possible.

[brucejoel99]

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1773494176694272198

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

If the DA believes Trump committed election interference under NY state law, why isn't he charged with election interference in the indictment?

The DA may not believe he committed election interference under NY state law. The DA may believe he committed election interference under NY state law but may think there is not proof beyond a reasonable doubt that he did. The DA may believe he committed election interference under NY state law and think there is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that he did but may think a jury will not be convinced that there is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that he did. The DA may believe he committed election interference but is using his prosecutorial discretion to charge what he believes is his strongest case so as not to overcharge. It's probably 1 of those.

But if he believes any of this, how can he assert election interference as the underlying crime to make falsification a felony?  Don’t you have to prove all elements of a crime beyond a reasonably doubt to convict on the crime?  So if there jury believes there’s reasonable doubt on election intereference, they can’t convict on records falsification for the purpose of election interference.

[emailking]

I'm not clear he is going to assert election interference as the underlying crime. In fact, I thought he wasn't doing that.

[wbrocks67]

Wait, so the gag order didn't even include the judge or his daughter? What's the point then?

[Redban]

Apparently, the judge's daughter had a picture of Trump behind bars in her twitter account, and she was/is partner of this company that publicly claims to serve Biden, Whitmer, Hobbs, and other Dems: https://authentic.org/case-studies/

I think Trump can fairly bring up the judge's daughter to argue possible bias, so long as he doesn't say anything violent or threatening . Defendant should get leeway in these matters

[Ferguson97]

Apparently, the judge's daughter had a picture of Trump behind bars in her twitter account, and she was/is partner of this company that publicly claims to serve Biden, Whitmer, Hobbs, and other Dems: https://authentic.org/case-studies/

I think Trump can fairly bring up the judge's daughter to argue possible bias, so long as he doesn't say anything violent or threatening . Defendant should get leeway in these matters

No, that wouldn't be fair. Why would his daughter's private political opinions matter?

[emailking]

Apparently, the judge's daughter had a picture of Trump behind bars in her twitter account,

The court said it's not her account, that she deleted her account and then someone scooped up the screename and posted that pic.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4561622-trump-attacks-on-judges-daughter-based-on-fake-account-court/

[wbrocks67]

Apparently, the judge's daughter had a picture of Trump behind bars in her twitter account, and she was/is partner of this company that publicly claims to serve Biden, Whitmer, Hobbs, and other Dems: https://authentic.org/case-studies/

I think Trump can fairly bring up the judge's daughter to argue possible bias, so long as he doesn't say anything violent or threatening . Defendant should get leeway in these matters

No, she did not. Please get your facts straight.

[Redban]

Apparently, the judge's daughter had a picture of Trump behind bars in her twitter account, and she was/is partner of this company that publicly claims to serve Biden, Whitmer, Hobbs, and other Dems: https://authentic.org/case-studies/

I think Trump can fairly bring up the judge's daughter to argue possible bias, so long as he doesn't say anything violent or threatening . Defendant should get leeway in these matters

No, that wouldn't be fair. Why would his daughter's private political opinions matter?

Because it's a case involving a major politician, and daughters can have influence on their fathers. A defendant should be able to pursue the angle if he/she wants. You put someone's freedom and/or good name on trial, then that person is on the hot seat and should get leeway, as long as there is nothing threatening or violent. All the Biden supporters ITT are just complaining because he isn't acting gentlemanly, which isn't a basis for a gag order in this matter

[Redban]

Apparently, the judge's daughter had a picture of Trump behind bars in her twitter account, and she was/is partner of this company that publicly claims to serve Biden, Whitmer, Hobbs, and other Dems: https://authentic.org/case-studies/

I think Trump can fairly bring up the judge's daughter to argue possible bias, so long as he doesn't say anything violent or threatening . Defendant should get leeway in these matters

No, she did not. Please get your facts straight.

She is a partner or president (not sure which) at authentic.org, which has heavy Democratic ties. You get your facts straight

[DrScholl]

Apparently, the judge's daughter had a picture of Trump behind bars in her twitter account, and she was/is partner of this company that publicly claims to serve Biden, Whitmer, Hobbs, and other Dems: https://authentic.org/case-studies/

I think Trump can fairly bring up the judge's daughter to argue possible bias, so long as he doesn't say anything violent or threatening . Defendant should get leeway in these matters

No, that wouldn't be fair. Why would his daughter's private political opinions matter?

Because it's a case involving a major politician, and daughters can have influence on their fathers. A defendant should be able to pursue the angle if he/she wants. You put someone's freedom and/or good name on trial, then that person is on the hot seat and should get leeway, as long as there is nothing threatening or violent. All the Biden supporters ITT are just complaining because he isn't acting gentlemanly, which isn't a basis for a gag order in this matter

You'd be laughed out of court with such a speculative argument. You aren't privy to what sort of relationship the judge has with his daughter and "daughters can have influence on their fathers" is a overly broad statement not rooted in fact.

[Redban]

Apparently, the judge's daughter had a picture of Trump behind bars in her twitter account, and she was/is partner of this company that publicly claims to serve Biden, Whitmer, Hobbs, and other Dems: https://authentic.org/case-studies/

I think Trump can fairly bring up the judge's daughter to argue possible bias, so long as he doesn't say anything violent or threatening . Defendant should get leeway in these matters

No, that wouldn't be fair. Why would his daughter's private political opinions matter?

Because it's a case involving a major politician, and daughters can have influence on their fathers. A defendant should be able to pursue the angle if he/she wants. You put someone's freedom and/or good name on trial, then that person is on the hot seat and should get leeway, as long as there is nothing threatening or violent. All the Biden supporters ITT are just complaining because he isn't acting gentlemanly, which isn't a basis for a gag order in this matter

You'd be laughed out of court with such a speculative argument. You aren't privy to what sort of relationship the judge has with his daughter and "daughters can have influence on their fathers" is a overly broad statement not rooted in fact.

But we're not talking about an argument in court. We're just talking about whether he should be able to talk about the judge in public

There was twitter account handle "lorenm426," which looked like Judge Merchan's daughter's handle by all appearances. Only by Trump's bringing attention to the twitter handle did OCA find a need to explain that Loren Merchan dropped that handle at some point and that the handle was picked up by someone else, who posted a picture of Trump behind bars. The mere fact that OCA had to give the explanation is evidence of the legitimacy of Trump's complaint ... according to users on this site, Trump should not have been able to even mention the twitter account. A guy can be on trial for a felony, and he can't make statements concerning a possible bias in the judge?

[DrScholl]

Apparently, the judge's daughter had a picture of Trump behind bars in her twitter account, and she was/is partner of this company that publicly claims to serve Biden, Whitmer, Hobbs, and other Dems: https://authentic.org/case-studies/

I think Trump can fairly bring up the judge's daughter to argue possible bias, so long as he doesn't say anything violent or threatening . Defendant should get leeway in these matters

No, that wouldn't be fair. Why would his daughter's private political opinions matter?

Because it's a case involving a major politician, and daughters can have influence on their fathers. A defendant should be able to pursue the angle if he/she wants. You put someone's freedom and/or good name on trial, then that person is on the hot seat and should get leeway, as long as there is nothing threatening or violent. All the Biden supporters ITT are just complaining because he isn't acting gentlemanly, which isn't a basis for a gag order in this matter

You'd be laughed out of court with such a speculative argument. You aren't privy to what sort of relationship the judge has with his daughter and "daughters can have influence on their fathers" is a overly broad statement not rooted in fact.

But we're not talking about an argument in court. We're just talking about whether he should be able to talk about the judge in public

There was twitter account handle "lorenm426," which looked like Judge Merchan's daughter's handle by all appearances. Only by Trump's bringing attention to the twitter handle did OCA find a need to explain that Loren Merchan dropped that handle at some point and that the handle was picked up by someone else, who posted a picture of Trump behind bars. The mere fact that OCA had to give the explanation is evidence of the legitimacy of Trump's complaint ... according to users on this site, Trump should not have been able to even mention the twitter account. A guy can be on trial for a felony, and he can't make statements concerning a possible bias in the judge?

And the fact remains that speculative arguments aren't good reasoning to argue against a gag order. A defendants making accusations against the judge is not appropriate. Legal counsel would advise against this, but of course Trump is not discouraged from doing this by his because they are just as out of control as he is.

[emailking]

The DA is asking the judge to clarify if the gag applies to family members of the judge and of the DA.

[brucejoel99]

The DA is asking the judge to clarify if the gag applies to family members of the judge and of the DA.

https://twitter.com/AWeissmann_/status/1773814355710112012https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1773822301911359688https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1773822614235930736https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1773824617116836105

[brucejoel99]

https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1774231808479232315https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1774241444641067227https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1774090267236167779https://twitter.com/AWeissmann_/status/1774101579676651734https://twitter.com/AWeissmann_/status/1774248587423048176

[emailking]

I've heard what he is doing could constitute 4th degree stalking under NY law, but it would be up to the daughter to take action there.

[brucejoel99]

I've heard what he is doing could constitute 4th degree stalking under NY law, but it would be up to the daughter to take action there.

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1774246345592701247

[emailking]

A nice April Fool's joke from Andrew Weissmann, he got me! lol

https://twitter.com/AWeissmann_/status/1774767883316285865

[brucejoel99]

Hope Hicks will testify as a state's witness for DA Bragg, wow!

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1774863598927368331

[GeorgiaModerate]

Trump post attacking Hicks incoming in 3, 2, 1...

[emailking]

She would be covered by the gag order as a witness I think.

[brucejoel99]

https://twitter.com/TylerMcBrien/status/1774891915860705509https://twitter.com/TylerMcBrien/status/1774892539851518072https://twitter.com/AnnaBower/status/1774890910184001603

[brucejoel99]

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1774913201097806012https://twitter.com/klasfeldreports/status/1774912785115234721