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« Reply #1700 on: April 10, 2024, 07:14:09 PM »

Does Trump just have unlimited opportunities to appeal? I assume not, otherwise literally every defense attorney would do this.

It's an abuse of the process, but yes, he can pretty much have his legal team file an unlimited number of lawsuits for a writ of mandamus against Merchan's trial decisions 'til the Appellate Division orders them to stop.
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« Reply #1701 on: April 10, 2024, 07:25:52 PM »

I don't have anything of substance to add to this thread (other than wondering how lung jury selection might take), but I do think the current poll attached is funny.
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« Reply #1702 on: April 10, 2024, 07:46:18 PM »

I don't even remember what the question was. Maybe do you think he'll be indicted...? :shrug:
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« Reply #1703 on: April 10, 2024, 07:59:10 PM »

I don't have anything of substance to add to this thread (other than wondering how lung jury selection might take), but I do think the current poll attached is funny.

Could take 1 morning or could take a month.
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« Reply #1704 on: April 11, 2024, 02:43:38 PM »

Sorry, Politico, this is not gonna happen.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/04/11/trump-alvin-bragg-trial-win-00151558
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« Reply #1705 on: April 11, 2024, 03:19:14 PM »

I mean, the part about asking for an instruction on a lesser misdemeanor offense is something any competent defense attorney would have to consider. That’s often a game-time decision for both sides in a criminal case during the charge conference after both sides have rested.
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« Reply #1706 on: April 11, 2024, 07:24:57 PM »

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« Reply #1707 on: April 11, 2024, 07:44:08 PM »

It will be a boring few weeks but the longer it takes I think the worse it is for him politically.
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« Reply #1708 on: April 11, 2024, 08:06:18 PM »

Don't be surprised if he pleads guilty to the misdemeanor charges. He'd likely have pay a fine and/or do some sort of community service (lord only knows what that would entail), but it would mean he wouldn't have to take valuable time off the campaign trail and avoid embarrassing information coming out during a trial.
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« Reply #1709 on: April 11, 2024, 08:15:30 PM »

If Bragg wants to offer a plea it's possible. I think he wants the felonies though since he believes the case is about election interference.
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« Reply #1710 on: April 11, 2024, 08:34:05 PM »

If Bragg wants to offer a plea it's possible. I think he wants the felonies though since he believes the case is about election interference.

Bragg doesn't believe in anything but himself. He's as narcissistic as Trump. It's all about politics and he wants to make a name for himself. That's why he dug up a frivolous matter from almost a decade ago, stretched the law to the nth degree, and wasting millions of taxpayer dollars in the process.

It be great if Bragg spent this much time and effort trying to get all the muggers, stabbers, dopeheads sleeping on the sidewalks, and vagrants wanking it on the subways off the street.

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« Reply #1711 on: April 11, 2024, 09:07:47 PM »

Well I disagree with your characterization of him and his motives. But if you're right, that probably makes it even less likely he would accept a plea deal.
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« Reply #1712 on: April 11, 2024, 09:43:04 PM »

Well I disagree with your characterization of him and his motives. But if you're right, that probably makes it even less likely he would accept a plea deal.

But if this does go forward and Trump gets acquitted, that would be a massive blow to Bragg's political ambitions and very likely may be a career ender. Perhaps even more damaging would be a conviction getting overturned by an appellate court or even SCOTUS, who I can imagine expediting an appeals process.

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« Reply #1713 on: April 11, 2024, 10:06:43 PM »

High risk high reward.

Let's see if a deal actually develops. If there is one it would most likely be before the jury selection process starts (though not impossible there could be a deal during the trial).
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« Reply #1714 on: April 11, 2024, 10:41:22 PM »

High risk high reward.

Let's see if a deal actually develops. If there is one it would most likely be before the jury selection process starts (though not impossible there could be a deal during the trial).

You are correct there. I personally am really hoping for some sort of plea agreement because Trump may have to do community service, which would be really, really funny. Given his age, it probably wouldn't entail anything physically demanding, but he could volunteer at a children's hospital, cook meals for the homeless, give a speech to school kids about why you shouldn't have an affair with a porn star, etc)
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« Reply #1715 on: April 12, 2024, 06:35:40 AM »

High risk high reward.

Let's see if a deal actually develops. If there is one it would most likely be before the jury selection process starts (though not impossible there could be a deal during the trial).

You are correct there. I personally am really hoping for some sort of plea agreement because Trump may have to do community service, which would be really, really funny. Given his age, it probably wouldn't entail anything physically demanding, but he could volunteer at a children's hospital, cook meals for the homeless, give a speech to school kids about why you shouldn't have an affair with a porn star, etc)

The best possible service Trump could do for the community would be to leave the country and never return.
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« Reply #1716 on: April 12, 2024, 02:33:56 PM »

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« Reply #1717 on: April 12, 2024, 04:40:07 PM »

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« Reply #1718 on: April 12, 2024, 05:09:20 PM »

This is going to be interesting.
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« Reply #1719 on: April 12, 2024, 05:47:07 PM »

If he testifies I believe they can start asking him about all the lies the Washington Post has published.

So yeah, won't happen.
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« Reply #1720 on: April 12, 2024, 05:48:54 PM »


I think the next couple weeks of the trial might be boring for us because it's just jury selection which is very tedious in state court. But Trump will be completely sidelined during the day so he may start losing it at night, we'll see.
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« Reply #1721 on: April 12, 2024, 06:32:31 PM »

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« Reply #1722 on: April 12, 2024, 06:53:00 PM »



Next, there will be a literal smoking gun.
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« Reply #1723 on: April 12, 2024, 08:21:45 PM »


Nailing Trump thanks to Michael Cohen having more tapes he recorded of everything that we haven't heard yet would be such an ironic historical bookend to Nixon's lost 18-minute gap.
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« Reply #1724 on: April 12, 2024, 08:24:01 PM »

Once again, I don't want to get ahead of myself, but this seems from everything we've heard about this case that it is a horrible case for Trump and there's enough evidence here that could provide a guilty verdict pretty easily. Whether that will happen is a different story but ... all the evidence appears to be here.
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