UK General Discussion: Rishecession

[Torrain]

I see a lot of people on here have nicknamed the King "Brian". I get it's a joke of some sort, but I don't understand the joke.

It’s the name he was given in Private Eye satire. Iirc this is where “Brenda” for Elizabeth II came from as well.

The idea is that these are not exactly posh sounding names.

Aye - it’s what they were named in an officially-sanctioned documentary, to contrast their lives with everyday people, while giving the impression they were actually quite like everyone else, with day to day hobbies and careers.

The Queen reportedly hated it so much (for removing the ‘mystique’ of the monarchy - which was still afforded a significant degree of press deference at the time) that the documentary was blacklisted and not repeated - hence Private Eye making it a decades-long running gag.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Curiously enough, Brian does have a deliberately non-posh nickname (used largely by his wife), though it isn't Brian, it's Fred. He, in turn, calls he Gladys. Meanwhile, his uncle the late and unlamented Edward VIII/Duke of Windsor was always known in his family as 'David', even though that was not his name. But this sort of thing is common enough with properly posh people even outside the Royal Family: Anthony Wedgwood Benn is best known to us as Tony, was usually known by colleagues as Wedgwood before the 1970s... but (and this is the relevant part) was called Jimmy by members of his family for his entire life. I have no idea why they do this either.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

There will also, undoubtedly, be 'sectarian' voting in various directions in some measure even during a Tory defeat, if Sunak is still leader. Any model will need to drill down with specific polling.

The obvious parts will be further gains with Hindu voters and the likely loss of the ex-BNP vote. Both have distinctive geographical concentrations and so matter more with FPTP than, given the raw numbers involved, they would with a proportional system. Though what happens with other minorities is the unclear thing: quite a very plausible scenarios, all quite different.

[The Dowager Mod]

https://twitter.com/Number10cat/status/1584654841300733953

[MillennialModerate]

Guarantee this takes a big cut into Labour at the next GE.

Labour is favored but I’d say around 340-350 seats. Nowhere near the landslides

https://mobile.twitter.com/YouGov/status/1584584547156766720

To be fair, isn't this including a lot of constituencies that will vote SNP or for some other third party?

Exactly.

389 is a dreadful result already. You’d think it would be at around 500 with what you’ve seen in the polls

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Guarantee this takes a big cut into Labour at the next GE.

Labour is favored but I’d say around 340-350 seats. Nowhere near the landslides

https://mobile.twitter.com/YouGov/status/1584584547156766720

To be fair, isn't this including a lot of constituencies that will vote SNP or for some other third party?

Exactly.

389 is a dreadful result already. You’d think it would be at around 500 with what you’ve seen in the polls

What a ridiculous thing to say. 389 isn't anywhere near the projected 500 seats Labour is polling at right now, but to say it's a "dreadful result" is just excessive dooming.

[Meclazine for Israel]

I like the fact that Rishi is a wealthy man.

Everyone here agrees that billionaires make good country leaders.

[jaymichaud]

Truss had to have been a sacrificial lamb, right? I can't believe she's so awful that they had to ditch her in a month and a half but not so awful that they didn't stick the knife in ahead of time. Not that Sunak is great, after all he was part sleazegate and the ‘jobs for mates’ scandal, but I can’t imagine him getting lost at his own press conference ffs.

[Pouring Rain and Blairing Music]

Guarantee this takes a big cut into Labour at the next GE.

Labour is favored but I’d say around 340-350 seats. Nowhere near the landslides

https://mobile.twitter.com/YouGov/status/1584584547156766720

To be fair, isn't this including a lot of constituencies that will vote SNP or for some other third party?

Exactly.

389 is a dreadful result already. You’d think it would be at around 500 with what you’ve seen in the polls

What a ridiculous thing to say. 389 isn't anywhere near the projected 500 seats Labour is polling at right now, but to say it's a "dreadful result" is just excessive dooming.

I think that the 500+ seat projections were probably wishful thinking. At some point, a uniform swing calculator will breakdown.

[All Along The Watchtower]

[Middle-aged Europe]

Will there also be a Sunak government crisis?

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Will there also be a Sunak government crisis?

At some point, yes.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Will there also be a Sunak government crisis?

I'm sure there will, but probably in 2023.

Sunak is, incidentally, the first Tory Prime Minister to represent a constituency outside Southern England since Home (who was parachuted into a Highlands seat when there were still safe Tory areas there), and the first from a constituency in Northern England since Balfour (whose seat was in Manchester).

[Cassius]

First Yorkshire based MP to ever become PM in fact.

[Pouring Rain and Blairing Music]

First Yorkshire based MP to ever become PM in fact.

Well that’s something at least! The (Solman) ancestral lands are in Yorkshire.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Will there also be a Sunak government crisis?

I'm sure there will, but probably in 2023.

Sunak is, incidentally, the first Tory Prime Minister to represent a constituency outside Southern England since Home (who was parachuted into a Highlands seat when there were still safe Tory areas there), and the first from a constituency in Northern England since Balfour (whose seat was in Manchester).

That's how you know it was a long time ago. Tory PM with a seat in Manchester...

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

First Yorkshire based MP to ever become PM in fact.

Clearly the only significant first about Sunak

[Lord Halifax]

Curiously enough, Brian does have a deliberately non-posh nickname (used largely by his wife), though it isn't Brian, it's Fred. He, in turn, calls he Gladys. Meanwhile, his uncle the late and unlamented Edward VIII/Duke of Windsor was always known in his family as 'David', even though that was not his name.

He was called Edward Albert Christian George Andrew Patrick David, so it was actually one of his names.

[Hnv1]

First Yorkshire based MP to ever become PM in fact.

Wasn't Wilson a Yorkshireman (no Harry Enfield pun intended)?

[morgieb]

First Yorkshire based MP to ever become PM in fact.

Wasn't Wilson a Yorkshireman (no Harry Enfield pun intended)?

House seat was in the Liverpool suburbs IIRC.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

I don't see why people expect Rishi to fail. The electricity generated by Churchill spinning in his grave should be enough to deal with the energy crisis.

[Coldstream]

Curiously enough, Brian does have a deliberately non-posh nickname (used largely by his wife), though it isn't Brian, it's Fred. He, in turn, calls he Gladys. Meanwhile, his uncle the late and unlamented Edward VIII/Duke of Windsor was always known in his family as 'David', even though that was not his name. But this sort of thing is common enough with properly posh people even outside the Royal Family: Anthony Wedgwood Benn is best known to us as Tony, was usually known by colleagues as Wedgwood before the 1970s... but (and this is the relevant part) was called Jimmy by members of his family for his entire life. I have no idea why they do this either.

To be fair, David was one of his names (though he had 7)

[Lord Halifax]

Curiously enough, Brian does have a deliberately non-posh nickname (used largely by his wife), though it isn't Brian, it's Fred. He, in turn, calls he Gladys. Meanwhile, his uncle the late and unlamented Edward VIII/Duke of Windsor was always known in his family as 'David', even though that was not his name. But this sort of thing is common enough with properly posh people even outside the Royal Family: Anthony Wedgwood Benn is best known to us as Tony, was usually known by colleagues as Wedgwood before the 1970s... but (and this is the relevant part) was called Jimmy by members of his family for his entire life. I have no idea why they do this either.

To be fair, David was one of his names (though he had .

Seven, Edward Albert Christian George Andrew Patrick David.

[Torrain]

Sunak’s seat of Richmond (Yorks) has the odd distinction of being passed from Tory grandee to Tory grandee, almost by accident. It was represented by Leon Brittan (who was parachuted in from elsewhere), one of Thatcher’s Home Secretaries, who was replaced by William Hague (Foreign Secretary under Cameron, Leader of the Opposition to Blair), who was in turn replaced by Sunak.

As of this morning, it’s one of a handful of constituencies to have been represented by MPs holding each of the four Great Offices of State.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Curiously enough, Brian does have a deliberately non-posh nickname (used largely by his wife), though it isn't Brian, it's Fred. He, in turn, calls he Gladys. Meanwhile, his uncle the late and unlamented Edward VIII/Duke of Windsor was always known in his family as 'David', even though that was not his name.

He was called Edward Albert Christian George Andrew Patrick David, so it was actually one of his names.

Yes, but literally the last one and he was only given it for purely symbolic reasons (note that all of the last four - four! - names are of the Patron Saints of England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales).