FBI search warrant executed at Mar-a-Lago (Update: Trump Indicted!)

[PSOL]

Dark Brandon leaves no stone unturned.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Didn't the FBI get the memo??

When the president does it, that means it is not illegal!

[certified hummus supporter 🇵🇸🤝🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦]

I think the biggest issue I see here is not the theft of classified information, which is bad of course, but the knee-jerk lamenting of the raid simply because he's a former president.

[Yoda]

No the reason why we are unable to deal with Trump is cause nobody has found a way to break his popularity with right of center voters in this nation . Do that and he is finished

It probably says a lot about the moral character of right-of-center voters that they still support Trump in spite of/because of everything he's done, no?

Well, when it comes to Popularity it's not as easy to diminish it as ya'll think it is.

Take Serbian Tennis Superstar NOVAK DJOKOVIC. The Australian Govtm tried to diminish his Popularity by deporting him from the Country in an unprecendented move because the then Immigration Minister Alex Hawke thought he would stir up the Anti-Vax Movement. ONE MAN. Laughable from my Point of View.

Djokovic is now more popular than ever before.

He stood his Ground. Everyone assumed he would take the Vaccine by now. Guess what: He didn't. He is even sacrificing not taking part in Tournaments in order so that doesn't have to take the vaccine.

Trumps Voters have a similar mindset. They would go over broken glass to support him if they have to no matter what he does.

What is your source/evidence for this claim? I've played tennis since I was a kid and I am a huge tennis fan. I record every major and watch most of the matches, and I even catch most of the non-major tier 1 Master's tournaments across the world. I get an alert from ESPN and read about every little thing that happens in the tennis world.

IMO and experience, Djokovic's antics have really worn thin with the other players and fans. Most fans hate how he thinks he is special and doesn't have to comply with vaccine mandates like everyone else. They hate his excuses when he loses and hate his comments about how his wife "doesn't have to work" unlike other players. I've only noticed a steady, slow decline in like and respect for him from tennis fans over the years so I'm curious what you're basing that assertion on.

[Middle-aged Europe]

I think the biggest issue I see here is not the theft of classified information, which is bad of course, but the knee-jerk lamenting of the raid simply because he's a former president.

Yeah, that strikes me as peculiar too. Let's assume, just for the sake of the argument, that Trump (or Obama, Bush, Clinton, Carter) has committed a crime. Do we really expect law enforcement agencies to do nothing about it, simply he's a former president? Seems a bit like a cult of personality to me.

[Yoda]

Even Larry Hogan tweeted this :

https://twitter.com/GovLarryHogan/status/1557071758447951878

Why do we "deserve to know all the facts as soon as possible?"

If this had happened to anyone else besides trump, would people be saying that the public "needs to know all the details and they need to know them now?"

Calm tf down. This is an investigation like any other. The facts will come out at trial like they do with any other defendant, which let's be honest trump likely will be sooner rather than later if it got to the point where the FBI searched his residence.

I'm not sure I've ever in my life seen a news event that spawned sooooooooooo many stupid takes as I have from Mar-a-Lago being searched for stolen materials.

[jojoju1998]

I think the biggest issue I see here is not the theft of classified information, which is bad of course, but the knee-jerk lamenting of the raid simply because he's a former president.

Yeah, that strikes me as peculiar too. Let's assume, just for the sake of the argument, that Trump (or Obama, Bush, Clinton, Carter) has committed a crime. Do we really expect law enforcement agencies to do nothing about it, simply he's a former president? Seems a bit like a cult of personality to me.

Trump is a polarizing character. Everything he does is like a reality tv show.

[Yoda]

Also dems the FBI investigating a crime managed to unite Andrew Yang, Mike Pence, Larry a Hogan, Andrew Cuomo and Donald Trump. LOL

Fixed for you. The FBI is overwhelmingly republican men, btw. Saying that a rich, powerful politician being held accountable for crimes is uniting other rich, powerful politicians and cable news media figures is not the own you think it is.

[ProgressiveModerate]

Anything that goes into unprecedented territory is going to be politicized. A former President has never been raided by the FBI but at the same time no former President has had as much dirt on him as Trump.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

Trump isn't exactly subtle about the crimes he has committed or his shady business practices so this 'Shocked Pikachu' routine from the right-wing and corrupt establishment figures is pretty unconvincing.

[T'Chenka]

Trump isn't exactly subtle about the crimes he has committed or his shady business practices so this 'Shocked Pikachu' routine from the right-wing and corrupt establishment figures is pretty unconvincing.

They don't say it out loud, and maybe some of them don't consciously think it through, but the first thought process basically is "if you come after one of OUR leaders, regardless of how good your reason is, you're being political and waging a political war against us", but then at the exact same time, their other thought process is "if one of YOUR leaders does something wrong, they should be obviously be prosecuted because nobody is above the law".

They either don't understand their own cognitive dissonance, or they don't care about it. And Democrats are under no circumstances whatsoever allowed to use their cognitive dissonance as a reason to dismiss their arguments as irrelevant.

[pbrower2a]

We will find out in due time -- when a criminal trial is underway or when a plea bargain is about to be made. As a practical solution, I would be satisfied with Trump leaving this country and never returning, as was appropriate for Ferdinand Marcos in the Philippines.  

[BlueSwan]

Where was all this outrage from the right when Hillary was being investigated by the REPUBLICAN led FBI in 2016??

[OSR stands with Israel]

Where was all this outrage from the right when Hillary was being investigated by the REPUBLICAN led FBI in 2016??

The Public knew what she was being investigated for. If this turns out to be espionage I will take back what I said in this thread btw but we need to know the info

[Yoda]

We will find out in due time -- when a criminal trial is underway or when a plea bargain is about to be made. As a practical solution, I would be satisfied with Trump leaving this country and never returning, as was appropriate for Ferdinand Marcos in the Philippines.  

I get the sentiment, but if exiled from the country, trump would likely end up in Russia or Saudi Arabia (as no first world democracy would take him), where he would spill every state secret he was privy to as President. This would be a national security nightmare. It's much, much, much better for the U.S if he were to end up in prison.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Where was all this outrage from the right when Hillary was being investigated by the REPUBLICAN led FBI in 2016??

The Public knew what she was being investigated for. If this turns out to be espionage I will take back what I said in this thread btw but we need to know the info

Trump could release the warrant.

[T'Chenka]

Trump could release the warrant publically.

[ProudModerate2]

Trump could release the warrant publically.

[wesmoorenerd]

Also dems managed to unite Andrew Yang, Mike Pence, Larry a Hogan, Andrew Cuomo and Donald Trump. LOL

So we have a massive loser whose third party is going to be as much of a bust as his last two campaigns, the most virulent homophobe in American politics, an incredibly overrated hack governor whose job for the past eight years has been screwing over the city of Baltimore, a sexual assaulter, and Donald Trump, who I need say nothing more about.

Is this the prophesized "basket of deplorables" come to life?

[MiddleRoad]

Trump could release the warrant publically.

He also could’ve released his tax records in 2016. Did he? No. Will he release the warrant? Probably not.

Trump doesn’t do anything that would make him appear compliant, or humbled, or conciliatory in any way…It goes against his self image and more importantly, his self created image.

[T'Chenka]

Trump could release the warrant publically.

He also could’ve released his tax records in 2016. Did he? No. Will he release the warrant? Probably not.

Trump doesn’t do anything that would make him appear compliant, or humbled, or conciliatory in any way…It goes against his self image and more importantly, his self created image.

You're missing the point. Republicans on Youtube, Twitter and even here are losing their minds about how the FBI needs to release the details IMMEDIATELY and they have no right to hide the details from the public... but the reality is, they released all the information to Trump himself. If the people who support Trump think they have a right to know what this was all about, their orange god has the ability to tell them. There's no need for them to scream at the FBI to get the information. Pressure your cult leader to spill the beans.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/08/10/nyregion/trump-news-questioning

Trump to Be Questioned in New York Investigation

So apparently Trump is going to face questioning under oath by the New York AG's office. Damn. If Letitia James actually ends up being the one scoring the deathblow on Trumps career she could very well be higher office material down the line.

[DaleCooper]

Also dems managed to unite Andrew Yang, Mike Pence, Larry a Hogan, Andrew Cuomo and Donald Trump. LOL

Lol, only one of those people has any political relevance.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The hard core Trump supporters this isn't gonna dissuade we have a few on Atlas like 2016, but Trump is a Billionaire, a 2.2 B machine and he is totally different than Oprah Winfrey is she is 2.2 B but she gives to Ds that's why Barbara Walters replaced Oprah with Whoopi Goldberg' and Raven Symone, I view it as a bad thing that supports Billionaires that supports Tax cuts, Christ always said don't be worried about material things and all Prophets said that, worry about positive effects and material things will come

The R party still have Matt GAETZ in Congress after Boehner threw out Charlie Rangel over gifts and GAETZ was solicitations  and Escorts Hypocritical, that's why Rs still support Trump

Don't forget Larry Craig whom was bisexual critical of Bill Clinton

[wbrocks67]

Trump could release the warrant publically.

This. But he wants the media to continue freaking out and coming up with theories and blaming the DOJ for not saying anything, so of course he's going to sit back and not do it.

And unsurprisingly, the press is blaming the DOJ and not him.