FBI search warrant executed at Mar-a-Lago (Update: Trump Indicted!)

[citizenZ]

Both George Will and David Brooks have columns out which can be read as anti-DOJ which is a good sense of where Never Trumpers fall on this issue. Their instinct is to circle the wagons and attack the messenger.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/11/opinion/fbi-trump-mar-a-lago-raid.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/11/merrick-garland-explain-mar-a-lago-search/

The above are the links to the two opinion pieces. Both are behind paywalls, and I only pay for the NYT. Brooks is most definitely not in the tank for Trump. He is just worried that it will reanimate Trump. George Will I cannot access behind the WAPO paywall,  but he says in his headline that Garland needs to show his hand.

Both articles are from yesterday and thus stale, since Garland did his thing (so check Will off the list), and we know that highly sensitive documents were in play threatening the national security. Presumably a further explanation will be made as to why the documents were not turned over pursuant to the subpoena and what led the DOJ to believe that Trump was stonewalling, and thus the need for surprise ala a search warrant.

If after all of that, Trump is in fact reanimated, then the point is not that Brooks is an enabler, it is that the half the American electorate is one sick puppy, which is Brooks’s point.

I see people on here saying that Trump 2024 wouldn't even get 40 million votes...when the guy just lost with 74 million a year and a half ago.

The amount of delusion is insane.

[Earthling]

Both George Will and David Brooks have columns out which can be read as anti-DOJ which is a good sense of where Never Trumpers fall on this issue. Their instinct is to circle the wagons and attack the messenger.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/11/opinion/fbi-trump-mar-a-lago-raid.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/11/merrick-garland-explain-mar-a-lago-search/

The above are the links to the two opinion pieces. Both are behind paywalls, and I only pay for the NYT. Brooks is most definitely not in the tank for Trump. He is just worried that it will reanimate Trump. George Will I cannot access behind the WAPO paywall,  but he says in his headline that Garland needs to show his hand.

Both articles are from yesterday and thus stale, since Garland did his thing (so check Will off the list), and we know that highly sensitive documents were in play threatening the national security. Presumably a further explanation will be made as to why the documents were not turned over pursuant to the subpoena and what led the DOJ to believe that Trump was stonewalling, and thus the need for surprise ala a search warrant.

If after all of that, Trump is in fact reanimated, then the point is not that Brooks is an enabler, it is that the half the American electorate is one sick puppy, which is Brooks’s point.

I see people on here saying that Trump 2024 wouldn't even get 40 million votes...when the guy just lost with 74 million a year and a half ago.

The amount of delusion is insane.

That also goes for most of your posts on here.

[soundchaser]

I see people on here saying that Trump 2024 wouldn't even get 40 million votes...when the guy just lost with 74 million a year and a half ago.

The amount of delusion is insane.

How many votes did Debs receive from federal prison?

[ProudModerate2]

Anyone else uncomfortable with his thinly-veiled racism and Islamophobia?

What?

You think Trump using Obama's middle name was for some benign reason?

I guess but I wouldn’t call that bigoted . It’s an irrelevant matter though cause the “other guy did it too “ is a horrific defense

It absolutely is racist/bigoted.
- trump launching his campaign in 2015, and referring to immigrants as "rapists," was racist.
- trump saying that an Indiana-born federal judge could not be impartial because he was “Mexican.” is racist.
- trump demanding that "Hussein" show his birth certificate, questioning Obama's birth place was racist.

The list goes on and on. "Look at my African American over there," sh**thole countries, etc etc.
If you want to stick your head in the sand that trump is not a bigot, that's your problem.

[GeorgiaModerate]

I see people on here saying that Trump 2024 wouldn't even get 40 million votes...when the guy just lost with 74 million a year and a half ago.

The amount of delusion is insane.

How many votes did Debs receive from federal prison?

A bit over 900,000 (3.4% of the PV), but he was running on the Socialist ticket and not a major party.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Anyone else uncomfortable with his thinly-veiled racism and Islamophobia?

What?

You think Trump using Obama's middle name was for some benign reason?

I guess but I wouldn’t call that bigoted . It’s an irrelevant matter though cause the “other guy did it too “ is a horrific defense

It absolutely is racist/bigoted.
- trump launching his campaign in 2015, and referring to immigrants as "rapists," was racist.
- trump saying that an Indiana-born federal judge could not be impartial because he was “Mexican.” is racist.
- trump demanding that "Hussein" show his birth certificate, questioning Obama's birth place was racist.

The list goes on and on. "Look at my African American over there," sh**thole countries, etc etc.
If you want to stick your head in the sand that trump is not a bigot, that's your problem.

Listen I simply dont care either way on what his meaning behind using Obama's Middle Name was and frankly its a massive distraction.

The fact is the content of that statement is horrible given he basically uses the "but the other guy did it too" defense.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

What is with this dude's obsession with the number 33?

He’s about to crash his Scion TC at 100 miles an hour and end up upright on miracle status.

[Torie]

Both George Will and David Brooks have columns out which can be read as anti-DOJ which is a good sense of where Never Trumpers fall on this issue. Their instinct is to circle the wagons and attack the messenger.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/11/opinion/fbi-trump-mar-a-lago-raid.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/11/merrick-garland-explain-mar-a-lago-search/

The above are the links to the two opinion pieces. Both are behind paywalls, and I only pay for the NYT. Brooks is most definitely not in the tank for Trump. He is just worried that it will reanimate Trump. George Will I cannot access behind the WAPO paywall,  but he says in his headline that Garland needs to show his hand.

Both articles are from yesterday and thus stale, since Garland did his thing (so check Will off the list), and we know that highly sensitive documents were in play threatening the national security. Presumably a further explanation will be made as to why the documents were not turned over pursuant to the subpoena and what led the DOJ to believe that Trump was stonewalling, and thus the need for surprise ala a search warrant.

If after all of that, Trump is in fact reanimated, then the point is not that Brooks is an enabler, it is that the half the American electorate is one sick puppy, which is Brooks’s point.

I see people on here saying that Trump 2024 wouldn't even get 40 million votes...when the guy just lost with 74 million a year and a half ago.

The amount of delusion is insane.

You now with a grand total of one score and 11 posts have managed to use about half of that count to make the same concern trolling point over and over and over again, that the warrant is going to cause a red wave to sweep the land and Trump to reclaim his kingdom. If Trump has documents that imperil national security, and put lives at risk, that it is a felony for him to have, I want the FBI to confiscate them, ASAP, and if the consequence of that is that Trump gets 500 million votes, frankly my dear, I don't give a damn. Just put me at the top of your insanely delusional box, and triage me out of your life. There is no need to punish yourself in that way. Thank you.

[Torrain]

Trump going with the world-class projection of "Obama stole nuclear documents too!" rather than a simple denial or deflection is a really weird move - and ironically makes the accusation (something I'd have denied as entirely fantastical even 48 hours ago) feel far more plausible.

[Tekken_Guy]

Both George Will and David Brooks have columns out which can be read as anti-DOJ which is a good sense of where Never Trumpers fall on this issue. Their instinct is to circle the wagons and attack the messenger.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/11/opinion/fbi-trump-mar-a-lago-raid.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/11/merrick-garland-explain-mar-a-lago-search/

The above are the links to the two opinion pieces. Both are behind paywalls, and I only pay for the NYT. Brooks is most definitely not in the tank for Trump. He is just worried that it will reanimate Trump. George Will I cannot access behind the WAPO paywall,  but he says in his headline that Garland needs to show his hand.

Both articles are from yesterday and thus stale, since Garland did his thing (so check Will off the list), and we know that highly sensitive documents were in play threatening the national security. Presumably a further explanation will be made as to why the documents were not turned over pursuant to the subpoena and what led the DOJ to believe that Trump was stonewalling, and thus the need for surprise ala a search warrant.

If after all of that, Trump is in fact reanimated, then the point is not that Brooks is an enabler, it is that the half the American electorate is one sick puppy, which is Brooks’s point.

I see people on here saying that Trump 2024 wouldn't even get 40 million votes...when the guy just lost with 74 million a year and a half ago.

The amount of delusion is insane.

Not if he isn't the nominee. DeSantis is within striking distance in one-on-one primary polls.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Trump going with the world-class projection of "Obama stole nuclear documents too!" rather than a simple denial or deflection is a really weird move - and ironically makes the accusation (something I'd have denied as entirely fantastical even 48 hours ago) feel far more plausible.

Yup

[Ferguson97]

https://twitter.com/sgurman/status/1558140291449765888?s=21&t=8CjPqO959CaH2s...

[ProudModerate2]

Trump going with the world-class projection of "Obama stole nuclear documents too!" rather than a simple denial or deflection is a really weird move - and ironically makes the accusation (something I'd have denied as entirely fantastical even 48 hours ago) feel far more plausible.

Something tells me trump himself snuck that official "statement" out for public release, before his advisors/lawyers/family could see it.
It's so stupid, I can not see anyone else endorsing it for release (other than Nutjobs like Giuliani or Sidney Powell).

[jojoju1998]

https://twitter.com/sgurman/status/1558140291449765888?s=21&t=8CjPqO959CaH2s...

How the heck did he graduated from College without understanding basic government civics ??

We all know the answer to that.

But to imagine that this dunce was our President.

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

Both George Will and David Brooks have columns out which can be read as anti-DOJ which is a good sense of where Never Trumpers fall on this issue. Their instinct is to circle the wagons and attack the messenger.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/11/opinion/fbi-trump-mar-a-lago-raid.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/11/merrick-garland-explain-mar-a-lago-search/

The above are the links to the two opinion pieces. Both are behind paywalls, and I only pay for the NYT. Brooks is most definitely not in the tank for Trump. He is just worried that it will reanimate Trump. George Will I cannot access behind the WAPO paywall,  but he says in his headline that Garland needs to show his hand.

Both articles are from yesterday and thus stale, since Garland did his thing (so check Will off the list), and we know that highly sensitive documents were in play threatening the national security. Presumably a further explanation will be made as to why the documents were not turned over pursuant to the subpoena and what led the DOJ to believe that Trump was stonewalling, and thus the need for surprise ala a search warrant.

If after all of that, Trump is in fact reanimated, then the point is not that Brooks is an enabler, it is that the half the American electorate is one sick puppy, which is Brooks’s point.

I see people on here saying that Trump 2024 wouldn't even get 40 million votes...when the guy just lost with 74 million a year and a half ago.

The amount of delusion is insane.

Just put me at the top of your insanely delusional box, and triage me out of your life. There is no need to punish yourself in that way. Thank you.

Totally off-topic, but I gotta use this phrase the next time I break up with a guy.  

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/sgurman/status/1558140291449765888?s=21&t=8CjPqO959CaH2s...

The article is paywalled, but the first paragraph is visible and says:

FBI agents who searched former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home Monday removed 11 sets of classified documents, including some marked as top secret and meant to be only available in special government facilities, according to documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

[ProudModerate2]

https://twitter.com/sgurman/status/1558140291449765888?s=21&t=8CjPqO959CaH2s...

The article is paywalled, but the first paragraph is visible and says:

FBI agents who searched former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home Monday removed 11 sets of classified documents, including some marked as top secret and meant to be only available in special government facilities, according to documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

Wow. Sounds like some of these documents, could be really heavy stuff that trump should never have taken with him after leaving.
Well, trump signed a new law increasing the penalties for having highly classified documents, so he may need to pay the price he himself wanted in place.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Trump going with the world-class projection of "Obama stole nuclear documents too!" rather than a simple denial or deflection is a really weird move - and ironically makes the accusation (something I'd have denied as entirely fantastical even 48 hours ago) feel far more plausible.

Both sides steal nuclear secrets! #BothSidesDoIt

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

Will info on the nature of the documents be released today if Trump doesn't object before 3?

[GeorgiaModerate]

Will info on the nature of the documents be released today if Trump doesn't object before 3?

I'm sure there will be some vagueness and/or redactions.  For some classified documents, especially at the higher levels, even the document titles can be classified.

[ProudModerate2]

https://twitter.com/sgurman/status/1558140291449765888?s=21&t=8CjPqO959CaH2s...

The article is paywalled, but the first paragraph is visible and says:

FBI agents who searched former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home Monday removed 11 sets of classified documents, including some marked as top secret and meant to be only available in special government facilities, according to documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

Another possible scenario that comes to mind ...

Do you think some of the stuff trump wanted to keep, for bragging purposes, were Area 51 and UFO/alien related classified documents/photos ?

[Ferguson97]

https://twitter.com/sgurman/status/1558140291449765888?s=21&t=8CjPqO959CaH2s...

The article is paywalled, but the first paragraph is visible and says:

FBI agents who searched former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home Monday removed 11 sets of classified documents, including some marked as top secret and meant to be only available in special government facilities, according to documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

Another possible scenario that comes to mind ...

Do you think some of the stuff trump wanted to keep, for bragging purposes, were Area 51 and UFO/alien related classified documents/photos ?

Imagine if Trump just panics and blurts out that aliens are real, and this is how the world finds out...

[Utah Neolib]

What is with this dude's obsession with the number 33?

Trust the plan, Q.

[Middle-aged Europe]

https://twitter.com/sgurman/status/1558140291449765888?s=21&t=8CjPqO959CaH2s...

The article is paywalled, but the first paragraph is visible and says:

FBI agents who searched former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home Monday removed 11 sets of classified documents, including some marked as top secret and meant to be only available in special government facilities, according to documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

Another possible scenario that comes to mind ...

Do you think some of the stuff trump wanted to keep, for bragging purposes, were Area 51 and UFO/alien related classified documents/photos ?

Imagine if Trump just panics and blurts out that aliens are real, and this is how the world finds out...

"I took the documents with me because nobody can make better deals with the aliens than me!"

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/sgurman/status/1558140291449765888?s=21&t=8CjPqO959CaH2s...

The article is paywalled, but the first paragraph is visible and says:

FBI agents who searched former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home Monday removed 11 sets of classified documents, including some marked as top secret and meant to be only available in special government facilities, according to documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

Another possible scenario that comes to mind ...

Do you think some of the stuff trump wanted to keep, for bragging purposes, were Area 51 and UFO/alien related classified documents/photos ?

Imagine if Trump just panics and blurts out that aliens are real, and this is how the world finds out...

"I took the documents with me because nobody can make better deals with the aliens than me!"

Not likely.  Trump doesn't like undocumented aliens.