Georgia senate seats runoff(s) megathread

[Rookie Yinzer]

I keep going back to the results. I can't believe we did it!

[Mike88]

https://twitter.com/dcdufour/status/1346873659898654721

Did he forget about Jimmy Carter?

Jimmy Carter lost but the Dems were able to hold the House. However, Bush in 1992 lost the WH, Senate and House also.

[MichaelRbn]

Carter did not lose the House.

[Roll Roons]

https://twitter.com/dcdufour/status/1346873659898654721

Did he forget about Jimmy Carter?

Jimmy Carter lost but the Dems were able to hold the House. However, Bush in 1992 lost the WH, Senate and House also.

Democrats had the Senate and House for Bush's entire term, so it's not the same.

[wbrocks67]

Given the strength of the polls and how Dems did, it really goes to show that for now, when Trump is on the ballot, GOP cannot guarantee enough turnout.

Exactly what I was thinking. We've seen this in the 2017, 2018, and 2019 elections.

And if he, Loeffler, and Purdue start screaming rigged election again, that could continue to depress GOP voters.

Which is good for polling going forward. It's been too many times now, with good polling in 2018 and this race without Trump.

[Brittain33]

Here is the scary thing

If the GOP underperforms when Trump isn't on the ballot but overperforms when he is, would the party become more Trumpist?

I'm curious if this will come true in a literal sense, e.g. the various Trump kids are successful candidates in Republican primaries because of branding and the man himself can only run for one office again.

I don't see the Trump kids having much success in primaries.  They don't have the same charisma that Trump does to impassion followers.

I agree, although it looks like they'll try. Ivanka will run for President at some point and she's the only one with a prayer of catching lightning in a bottle twice IMO.

[Mike88]

https://twitter.com/dcdufour/status/1346873659898654721

Did he forget about Jimmy Carter?

Jimmy Carter lost but the Dems were able to hold the House. However, Bush in 1992 lost the WH, Senate and House also.

Democrats had the Senate and House for Bush's entire term, so it's not the same.

Well, the Dems in 1932 retained the majority they gained in 1930.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

It was really nice to see Ossoff rebound with POC.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

https://twitter.com/dcdufour/status/1346873659898654721

Did he forget about Jimmy Carter?

Jimmy Carter lost but the Dems were able to hold the House. However, Bush in 1992 lost the WH, Senate and House also.

Democrats had the Senate and House for Bush's entire term, so it's not the same.

Well, the Dems in 1932 retained the majority they gained in 1930.

The tweet says in a single term, not a single election. Hoover lost the House in 1930 and the Senate & Presidency in 1932. Trump lost the House in 2018, the Presidency in 2020, and the Senate in 2021.

[Brittain33]

https://twitter.com/dcdufour/status/1346873659898654721

Did he forget about Jimmy Carter?

Jimmy Carter lost but the Dems were able to hold the House. However, Bush in 1992 lost the WH, Senate and House also.

Democrats had the Senate and House for Bush's entire term, so it's not the same.

Well, the Dems in 1932 retained the majority they gained in 1930.

The tweet says in a single term, not a single election. Hoover lost the House in 1930 and the Senate & Presidency in 2020. Trump lost the House in 2018, the Presidency in 2020, and the Senate in 2021.

This. It's all about enjoying the trifecta at the beginning and losing it completely by the end.

[Holmes]

https://twitter.com/dcdufour/status/1346873659898654721

Did he forget about Jimmy Carter?

Jimmy Carter lost but the Dems were able to hold the House. However, Bush in 1992 lost the WH, Senate and House also.

Democrats had the Senate and House for Bush's entire term, so it's not the same.

Well, the Dems in 1932 retained the majority they gained in 1930.

The tweet says in a single term, not a single election. Hoover lost the House in 1930 and the Senate & Presidency in 2020. Trump lost the House in 2018, the Presidency in 2020, and the Senate in 2021.

That 90 year Hoover presidency.

[Mike88]

https://twitter.com/dcdufour/status/1346873659898654721

Did he forget about Jimmy Carter?

Jimmy Carter lost but the Dems were able to hold the House. However, Bush in 1992 lost the WH, Senate and House also.

Democrats had the Senate and House for Bush's entire term, so it's not the same.

Well, the Dems in 1932 retained the majority they gained in 1930.

The tweet says in a single term, not a single election. Hoover lost the House in 1930 and the Senate & Presidency in 2020. Trump lost the House in 2018, the Presidency in 2020, and the Senate in 2021.

This. It's all about enjoying the trifecta at the beginning and losing it completely by the end.

Right. I was not counting with the whole 4 year term. My mistake.

Fingers crossed this will open another 20 year rule of the Dems

[The Right Honourable Martin Brian Mulroney PC CC GOQ]

Trump's theatrics lost us those runoffs.  We absolutely should have won both of those- and probably were on track to do so until recently.

The issue is that no one can tell Trump to calm down and the rest of the party is (probably rightly from an electoral standpoint) petrified to go against him because the MAGA cult will rebel.  We're kind of between a rock and a hard place right now.

Also, if I'm Mitch McConnell, I offer Joe Manchin whatever he wants to become a Republican or R-caucusing Independent.  It would be a long shot, but less so than claiming that the elections were rigged.

Bad Take IMO. Why did Loeffler and Perdue underperform Trump significantly in traditionally conservative suburban Atlanta?

You hit the nail on the head--traditionally conservative. The suburbs used to be conservative, but in today's alignment, many suburbs can no longer be considered that.

For one, they're no longer heterogenously white, in fact there are lots of black, hispanic, and asian suburbs now. Even in white suburbs, there is an increased number of minorities. The people whose parents or grandparents once moved to the suburbs to get away from minorities are now living amongst them.

On gun control, suburbanites in the past may have liked guns as a means of protecting their McMansions from the unwashed hordes. But there has been a change in attitude since Columbine and Sandy Hook, I'm sure you can imagine why.

Suburbs are also densifying, which is a sign of left-leaning politics. Also, young people who may not be able to afford to live downtown in places like LA, Atlanta, or Chicago are moving to places like Orange, Gwinnett, and Will counties. Finally, with college education becoming an increasing dividing line in American politics, college-educated suburbanites are a more liberal bloc.

Put it all together, and the traditionally conservative suburbs are largely trending to the Democrats because they're more liberal. There are a few exceptions like Staten Island, but broadly speaking, this trend follows in most major metro areas.

[HisGrace]

https://twitter.com/dcdufour/status/1346873659898654721

Sad!

[wbrocks67]

It was really nice to see Ossoff rebound with POC.

Especially Latinos. It looks like door-knocking and canvassing was a huge boon to Democrats this time around. Ossoff went from like <10 lead among Latinos to +30 this time

[GP270watch]

https://twitter.com/dcdufour/status/1346873659898654721

Sad!

Legacy cemented, 21st century Hoover.

[wbrocks67]

Also, according to Fox/AP exit poll, Ossoff/Warnock actually got 94% of black support, even higher than Abrams (93%). Incredible.

[wbrocks67]

Not sure why it's taking so long for a few thousand additional votes to come in...

[The Right Honourable Martin Brian Mulroney PC CC GOQ]

https://twitter.com/dcdufour/status/1346873659898654721

Sad!

Legacy cemented, 21st century Hoover.

21st century Hoover, except a small swing could have re-elected him and a GOP trifecta. Polarization is fun!

[Crumpets]

https://twitter.com/madisons_mad/status/1346681494408978432

[Antonio the Sixth]

What the f**k is DeKalb waiting for

[Catalunya]

It was really nice to see Ossoff rebound with POC.

Especially Latinos. It looks like door-knocking and canvassing was a huge boon to Democrats this time around. Ossoff went from like <10 lead among Latinos to +30 this time

Democrats should pay close attention to how he improved and do the same in the rest of the sunbelt especially. Latinos and Latinas will only swing R if they’re allowed to do so.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

It was really nice to see Ossoff rebound with POC.

Especially Latinos. It looks like door-knocking and canvassing was a huge boon to Democrats this time around. Ossoff went from like <10 lead among Latinos to +30 this time

Yeah, the lack of a ground game by the Democrats, thanks to the virus, really hurt us. For the longest time, the only people knocking on the doors of POC were Republicans.

[Tartarus Sauce]

Waited until today to check on the results after checking out before polls closed last night.

Absolutely ecstatic! Fantastic news, now Biden can govern for his first two years without sabotage and Trump's antics have finally cost the Republicans something tangible. I can't remember the last time I felt this happy, it's like a tremendous weight has been taken off my mind and I can breathe easier now.

[n1240]

Webster County sent a weird signal being the first county to post complete results last night, and having by a fairly large gap, the largest swing R since Nov of any county in the state.