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« Reply #2250 on: May 16, 2020, 01:52:26 PM »

This virus shows up at the perfect time to get Trump re-elected.

Trump was on track to win but it appears the virus may prevent that.
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« Reply #2251 on: May 16, 2020, 01:56:46 PM »

This virus shows up at the perfect time to get Trump re-elected.

Explain?  This seems counterintuitive.  He can still win, but his path clearly seems harder now.
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« Reply #2252 on: May 16, 2020, 01:59:18 PM »

This virus shows up at the perfect time to get Trump re-elected.

Explain?  This seems counterintuitive.  He can still win, but his path clearly seems harder now.

People will be too scared to vote in person, and mail-in voting is not going to be expanded.
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« Reply #2253 on: May 16, 2020, 02:20:59 PM »

As infection rates fall, measures that have caused the slowing of the infection rate will be kept in place. Any opening of America will be done with care; such is the apparent desire of people and Big Business.

Remember: the free market seeks solutions that harmonize profit and safety. Big Business wants to profit again, and people will want to spend money on what they most enjoyed doing before COVID-19.

I see plenty of opportunity for making masks available as fashion statements and as political statements. I can see plenty of variants of the letter O and the number zero into depictions of the virus.

Viral infections have a tendency to die out as means of transmission disappear. People will want to  to attend theaters, concert halls, sporting events, and religions services. People will want to participate in coming-of-age ceremonies, date, and marry.
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« Reply #2254 on: May 16, 2020, 02:43:34 PM »

This virus shows up at the perfect time to get Trump re-elected.

Explain?  This seems counterintuitive.  He can still win, but his path clearly seems harder now.

People will be too scared to vote in person, and mail-in voting is not going to be expanded.

Wisconsin, anyone?
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« Reply #2255 on: May 16, 2020, 03:24:36 PM »

Instead of blaming externals, why can’t Democrat’s do any introspection?

 It’s not Covid that is hurting the Dems, it’s that you have a blundering old fool as the presumptive nominee. Until the party can reckon with itself, it’s going to expose itself to further embarrassing defeats like 2016 and this coming 2020 election. God bless.
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« Reply #2256 on: May 16, 2020, 03:42:10 PM »

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« Reply #2257 on: May 16, 2020, 03:43:57 PM »



Horseshoe theory at its finest.
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« Reply #2258 on: May 16, 2020, 03:56:35 PM »



Horseshoe theory at its finest.

This doesn't say anything more about the left than Malik Obama's support of Trump says about the center.
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« Reply #2259 on: May 16, 2020, 03:59:20 PM »



Horseshoe theory at its finest.

This doesn't say anything more about the left than Malik Obama's support of Trump says about the center.

This does.
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« Reply #2260 on: May 16, 2020, 03:59:52 PM »



Horseshoe theory at its finest.

This doesn't say anything more about the left than Malik Obama's support of Trump says about the center.

Corbyn has always been close with his brother and Piers has historically "said the things Jeremy can't". The last time Jeremy was called upon to denounce Piers, he refused.
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« Reply #2261 on: May 16, 2020, 04:12:49 PM »

Instead of blaming externals, why can’t Democrat’s do any introspection?

 It’s not Covid that is hurting the Dems, it’s that you have a blundering old fool as the presumptive nominee. Until the party can reckon with itself, it’s going to expose itself to further embarrassing defeats like 2016 and this coming 2020 election. God bless.

The projection is high in this post lmao.
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« Reply #2262 on: May 16, 2020, 04:56:46 PM »

The last time Jeremy was called upon to denounce Piers, he refused.

Out of curiosity, has Jeremy ever denounced anything he was called upon to denounce? I know he eventually got around to saying something meaningful about anti-Semitism after several years of "all bigotry matters."
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« Reply #2263 on: May 16, 2020, 05:12:02 PM »

Why don’t they just separate the Stimulus Checks from the package and pass a Stimulus Check bill individually, to hurry this sh**t up? Then they can bicker about the rest....
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« Reply #2264 on: May 16, 2020, 05:28:42 PM »



What a despicable family.
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« Reply #2265 on: May 16, 2020, 05:33:56 PM »

Another day, another statistic...
Colorado data May 15th

New cases: +401 (+1.7%)
Total cases: 21,633


New deaths: +42 (-28.8%)
Total deaths: 1,192
Covid-19 linked deaths: 892


New “real” cases: 615 (+26.8%)

I haven’t posted for the past couple of days due to tests and stuff, but nw cases per day are steadily going up, so this is something to watch. Positivity rates are hovering at the 5-8% mark, which is improvement from two weeks ago when we were closer to 20% (due to our lack of tests)
Deaths are an interesting case.
You may have heard that Colorado “recalled” a bunch of deaths, and this is true. Previously, Colorado counted every death among Covid-19 patients as a death. While this is obviously inaccurate, considering the many uncounted deaths (because yes, people can die at home without ever getting tested) I think it’s possible there could be some balancing out effect. Regardless, I will use the same numbers as before so that I don’t change methodology in the middle, but I also have included the number of confirmed deaths which are actually caused by Covid-19 as opposed to deaths in all Covid patients.

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« Reply #2266 on: May 16, 2020, 05:43:57 PM »

And now of course, for the weekly update due to discrepancies and outliers in reporting:
(May 7/8 vs May 14/15 avg)

New cases: 502—>379 (-24.5%)


New deaths: 12—>44 (+266.7%)


“Real” cases: 962—>505 (-47.5%)

Honestly, I think this has been a decent week, although the recent trends over the past couple of days are alarming. It could be daily fluctuations in testing and reporting, or it could be indicative of a larger trend due to reopenings.
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« Reply #2267 on: May 16, 2020, 05:58:20 PM »

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 5/16 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

Δ Change: Day-by-day Growth or Decline or COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.
  • IE: Are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.
  • IE: What's the overall change in the total?

<Last Numbers for 3/26-3/28 in this Post>
<Last Numbers for 3/29-4/4 in this Post>
<Last Numbers for 4/5-4/11 in this Post>
<Last Numbers for 4/12-4/18 in this Post>
<Last Numbers for 4/19-4/25 in this post>
<Last Numbers for 4/26-5/2 in this post>

5/3: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 1,187,804 (+27,030 | Δ Change: ↓8.32% | Σ Increase: ↑2.11%)
  • Deaths: 68,589 (+1,142 | Δ Change: ↓31.94% | Σ Increase: ↑1.70%)

5/4:
  • Cases: 1,212,835 (+25,031 | Δ Change: ↓7.40% | Σ Increase: ↑2.33%)
  • Deaths: 69,921 (+1,332 | Δ Change: ↑16.64% | Σ Increase: ↑1.54%)

5/5:
  • Cases: 1,236,987 (+24,152 | Δ Change: ↓3.51% | Σ Increase: ↑1.99%)
  • Deaths: 72,241 (+2,320 | Δ Change: ↑74.17% | Σ Increase: ↑3.32%)

5/6:
  • Cases: 1,263,092 (+26,105 | Δ Change: ↑8.09% | Σ Increase: ↑2.11%)
  • Deaths: 74,799 (+2,558 | Δ Change: ↑10.26% | Σ Increase: ↑3.54%)

5/7:
  • Cases: 1,292,594 (+29,502 | Δ Change: ↑13.01% | Σ Increase: ↑2.34%)
  • Deaths: 76,926 (+2,127 | Δ Change: ↓16.85% | Σ Increase: ↑2.84%)

5/8:
  • Cases: 1,321,785 (+29,191 | Δ Change: ↓1.05% | Σ Increase: ↑2.26%)
  • Deaths: 78,615 (+1,689 | Δ Change: ↓20.59% | Σ Increase: ↑2.20%)

5/9:
  • Cases: 1,347,309 (+25,524 | Δ Change: ↓12.56% | Σ Increase: ↑1.93%)
  • Deaths: 80,037 (+1,422 | Δ Change: ↓15.81% | Σ Increase: ↑1.51%)

5/10: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 1,367,638 (+20,329 | Δ Change: ↓20.35% | Σ Increase: ↑1.93%)
  • Deaths: 80,787 (+750 | Δ Change: ↓47.27% | Σ Increase: ↑0.94%)

5/11:
  • Cases: 1,385,834 (+18,196 | Δ Change: ↓10.49% | Σ Increase: ↑1.33%)
  • Deaths: 81,795 (+1,008 | Δ Change: ↑34.40% | Σ Increase: ↑1.25%)

5/12:
  • Cases: 1,408,155 (+22,321 | Δ Change: ↑22.67% | Σ Increase: ↑1.61%)
  • Deaths: 83,377 (+1,582 | Δ Change: ↑56.94% | Σ Increase: ↑1.93%)

5/13:
  • Cases: 1,430,348 (+22,193 | Δ Change: ↓0.57% | Σ Increase: ↑1.58%)
  • Deaths: 85,197 (+1,820 | Δ Change: ↑15.44% | Σ Increase: ↑2.18%)

5/14:
  • Cases: 1,456,828 (+26,480 | Δ Change: ↑19.32% | Σ Increase: ↑1.85%)
  • Deaths: 86,901 (+1,704 | Δ Change: ↓6.37% | Σ Increase: ↑2.00%)

5/15 (Yesterday):
  • Cases: 1,483,736 (+26,908 | Δ Change: ↑1.62% | Σ Increase: ↑1.85%)
  • Deaths: 88,479 (+1,578 | Δ Change: ↓7.39% | Σ Increase: ↑1.82%)

5/16 (Today):
  • Cases: 1,505,033 (+21,297 | Δ Change: ↓20.85% | Σ Increase: ↑1.44%)
  • Deaths: 89,511 (+1,032 | Δ Change: ↓34.60% | Σ Increase: ↑1.17%)
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« Reply #2268 on: May 16, 2020, 08:26:40 PM »


This WHO statement from weeks ago has been thoroughly discredited, as has every other early panicked headline about reinfection.

Every real shred of evidence (including the Science article posted in this thread earlier today) overwhelmingly supports practically universal immunity.

As of course, does the basic fact that we have 4.5 million confirmed infections and zero confirmed examples of reinfection; imagine what we’d say if a vaccine trial revealed zero infections among the first 4.5 million trials.

5 USS Roosevelt Sailors Test Positive For COVID-19, Again

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The U.S. Navy says five sailors from the USS Theodore Roosevelt who had apparently recovered from the coronavirus and had received negative test results have now tested positive for a second time.

In a statement, the Navy said the sailors had "met rigorous recovery criteria, exceeding CDC guidelines," including testing negative for the virus at least twice, but have now retested positive. The statement said the sailors had been monitoring their health and adhered to social-distancing protocols while on board the Roosevelt, which has been docked in Guam following an outbreak infecting hundreds of crew members.

You were saying? (When you weren't ignoring the potential threat to children from the suggestion in your own earlier post.)
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« Reply #2269 on: May 16, 2020, 08:32:13 PM »

I thought the conclusion was that instead of being reinfected, some people just felt better and had a low enough viral load where they'd get a false negative back.
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« Reply #2270 on: May 16, 2020, 09:16:42 PM »


This WHO statement from weeks ago has been thoroughly discredited, as has every other early panicked headline about reinfection.

Every real shred of evidence (including the Science article posted in this thread earlier today) overwhelmingly supports practically universal immunity.

As of course, does the basic fact that we have 4.5 million confirmed infections and zero confirmed examples of reinfection; imagine what we’d say if a vaccine trial revealed zero infections among the first 4.5 million trials.

5 USS Roosevelt Sailors Test Positive For COVID-19, Again


These have happened before, and they've been false positives.
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« Reply #2271 on: May 16, 2020, 09:28:32 PM »


This WHO statement from weeks ago has been thoroughly discredited, as has every other early panicked headline about reinfection.

Every real shred of evidence (including the Science article posted in this thread earlier today) overwhelmingly supports practically universal immunity.

As of course, does the basic fact that we have 4.5 million confirmed infections and zero confirmed examples of reinfection; imagine what we’d say if a vaccine trial revealed zero infections among the first 4.5 million trials.

5 USS Roosevelt Sailors Test Positive For COVID-19, Again

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The U.S. Navy says five sailors from the USS Theodore Roosevelt who had apparently recovered from the coronavirus and had received negative test results have now tested positive for a second time.

In a statement, the Navy said the sailors had "met rigorous recovery criteria, exceeding CDC guidelines," including testing negative for the virus at least twice, but have now retested positive. The statement said the sailors had been monitoring their health and adhered to social-distancing protocols while on board the Roosevelt, which has been docked in Guam following an outbreak infecting hundreds of crew members.

You were saying? (When you weren't ignoring the potential threat to children from the suggestion in your own earlier post.)

There's no evidence at all in that article of a second independent reinfection.  It sounds like the same scenario as all those early instances in Korea that people initially panicked over, but were then definitively debunked.
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« Reply #2272 on: May 16, 2020, 09:31:45 PM »

I thought the conclusion was that instead of being reinfected, some people just felt better and had a low enough viral load where they'd get a false negative back.

Yeah but we have to panic anyways.
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« Reply #2273 on: May 16, 2020, 09:40:14 PM »

For people doubting immunity given what we know so far, I have a question: How are you ever going to trust any vaccine trial?

Given our accelerated trial protocols and procedures, any vaccine that appears effective is going to be approved based on far less direct and indirect evidence than the accumulated evidence we already have for immunity.
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« Reply #2274 on: May 16, 2020, 10:02:52 PM »



Texas is surging past Florida now in cases, Maryland is getting close too
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