COVID-19 Megathread 5: The Trumps catch COVID-19

[It’s so Joever]

Just from the numbers we have as of now, today is gearing up to be a terrible day in terms of new cases. This probably is due to a combination of increased testing, and a possible mini spike from reopenings. If the second is true, cases will continue to look worse than they were 7 days ago throughout next week.

[Bismarck]

U.S. will terminate its relationship with World Health Organization, Trump says

Next thing you know, he's going to order a nuclear strike on Beijing.

Yep that makes sense. Pulling funding for an obviously flawed organization is definitely in the same ballpark as nuclear holocaust. Good take. 

[GeorgiaModerate]

Just from the numbers we have as of now, today is gearing up to be a terrible day in terms of new cases. This probably is due to a combination of increased testing, and a possible mini spike from reopenings. If the second is true, cases will continue to look worse than they were 7 days ago throughout next week.

Just a comment on the second part, definitely not directed at you specifically.  But there seems to be a sense of surprise in some quarters that cases are ticking back up following reopening in some areas.  How could anyone not have expected that to happen?  The level of interpersonal contact is increasing while the population is just as susceptible as ever, except perhaps in a few places like NYC that may have achieved a limited degree of herd immunity.  Did some people expect the virus to give us credit for good behavior the past several weeks and become less infectious?

[It’s so Joever]

Just from the numbers we have as of now, today is gearing up to be a terrible day in terms of new cases. This probably is due to a combination of increased testing, and a possible mini spike from reopenings. If the second is true, cases will continue to look worse than they were 7 days ago throughout next week.

Just a comment on the second part, definitely not directed at you specifically.  But there seems to be a sense of surprise in some quarters that cases are ticking back up following reopening in some areas.  How could anyone not have expected that to happen?  The level of interpersonal contact is increasing while the population is just as susceptible as ever, except perhaps in a few places like NYC that may have achieved a limited degree of herd immunity.  Did some people expect the virus to give us credit for good behavior the past several weeks and become less infectious?

After a few weeks of posting woke messages on staying home on social media, they decided the virus suddenly stopped existing thanks to their internet activism. It’s like some people don’t even realize the pandemic is still killing about a thousand a day.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Does anyone know a good reference resource for national covid hospitalization rates?  I’m curious about how much of the recent reduction in death rates is due to better treatments as opposed to fewer new infections. 

(I have a good friend whose dad was in very dire shape in the hospital as of about two weeks ago, but now seems almost fully recovered after receiving both remdesivir and plasma treatments.)

[Meclazine for Israel]

This guy has read the last 418 pages of this forum topic and summarised it into a clever rap song.

Samson

COVID-19 rap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kIjqoHPJrE

(Language warning)

[T'Chenka]

This guy has read the last 418 pages of this forum topic and summarised it into a clever rap song.

Samson

COVID-19 rap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kIjqoHPJrE

(Language warning)

Whether or not I agree with the message of the song, that was actually pretty good.

[Calthrina950]

A story of two contrasts today, for me. I've reported before on the numbers of customers at my job who are wearing masks. It is still the same breakdown as last week; around 60% are wearing masks and 40% are not. I had one masked customer who asked me how many customers were wearing masks, and I gave her the same breakdown as I did now. She then said that she had no problem with "shaming" people for not wearing them, and that we "students" (She assumed I was a student, given that I look much younger than I am) need to be protected from the virus. Later on, I had another customer-who was maskless-telling me that they hoped we wouldn't be required to wear them the next time he saw me.

The contrasting views on a practice such as this are definitely a sight to behold.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Just from the numbers we have as of now, today is gearing up to be a terrible day in terms of new cases. This probably is due to a combination of increased testing, and a possible mini spike from reopenings. If the second is true, cases will continue to look worse than they were 7 days ago throughout next week.

I also can't imagine that the protests are helping much.

Side note: it's interesting to note that the Floyd unrest is probably the first thing to take attention away from the pandemic since its start.

[Omega21]

Just from the numbers we have as of now, today is gearing up to be a terrible day in terms of new cases. This probably is due to a combination of increased testing, and a possible mini spike from reopenings. If the second is true, cases will continue to look worse than they were 7 days ago throughout next week.

Just a comment on the second part, definitely not directed at you specifically.  But there seems to be a sense of surprise in some quarters that cases are ticking back up following reopening in some areas.  How could anyone not have expected that to happen?  The level of interpersonal contact is increasing while the population is just as susceptible as ever, except perhaps in a few places like NYC that may have achieved a limited degree of herd immunity.  Did some people expect the virus to give us credit for good behavior the past several weeks and become less infectious?

It's not really a given. It has not happened here in AT after the reopening.

[Calthrina950]

Just from the numbers we have as of now, today is gearing up to be a terrible day in terms of new cases. This probably is due to a combination of increased testing, and a possible mini spike from reopenings. If the second is true, cases will continue to look worse than they were 7 days ago throughout next week.

Just a comment on the second part, definitely not directed at you specifically.  But there seems to be a sense of surprise in some quarters that cases are ticking back up following reopening in some areas.  How could anyone not have expected that to happen?  The level of interpersonal contact is increasing while the population is just as susceptible as ever, except perhaps in a few places like NYC that may have achieved a limited degree of herd immunity.  Did some people expect the virus to give us credit for good behavior the past several weeks and become less infectious?

Do you think we should lock the economy down again? I don't think that such a course of action is feasible at this point. 25% or even 30% unemployment would be absolutely devastating, and the unrest which we've seen in the past few days would become far more intense, to the point that I would fear for civil stability in this country. I think that we need to maintain social distancing restrictions for businesses, continue to ramp up our testing efforts, and delay (or cancel) future large events.

[T'Chenka]

Just from the numbers we have as of now, today is gearing up to be a terrible day in terms of new cases. This probably is due to a combination of increased testing, and a possible mini spike from reopenings. If the second is true, cases will continue to look worse than they were 7 days ago throughout next week.

Just a comment on the second part, definitely not directed at you specifically.  But there seems to be a sense of surprise in some quarters that cases are ticking back up following reopening in some areas.  How could anyone not have expected that to happen?  The level of interpersonal contact is increasing while the population is just as susceptible as ever, except perhaps in a few places like NYC that may have achieved a limited degree of herd immunity.  Did some people expect the virus to give us credit for good behavior the past several weeks and become less infectious?

It's not really a given. It has not happened here in AT after the reopening.

It IS a given if you believe in science, math and epidemiology. Or, to be more specific, it's a given that it is statistically very likely to happen but not guaranteed.

[Grassroots]

The riots are outdoors, where it’s very difficult for covid to spread. I doubt it will affect much.

[GeorgiaModerate]

The riots are outdoors, where it’s very difficult for covid to spread. I doubt it will affect much.

You're reversing cause and effect.  The virus generally is less likely to spread less outdoors because people tend to stay farther apart when they're outdoors than indoors.  But if people are packed together outdoors, you lose the distance benefit.

[T'Chenka]

The riots are outdoors, where it’s very difficult for covid to spread. I doubt it will affect much.

What is this I don't even...

...

...dude...

... there are HUNDREDS of people packed shoulder to shoulder and breathing DIRECTLY on to other people's upper bodies and sometimes faces.

I don't want to overruse this, but the situation REALLY calls for it. You posted malarkey, lose a delegate.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

California still isn't decreasing for new cases or death. What a disaster.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Latest US vs. European case and death graphs

European deaths continue to decline consistently, though less quickly than last week.  The UK now accounts for more than half of the deaths across all five nations.  Spain has been reporting close to zero deaths in last four days.

Weekly average US deaths have been flat since Memorial Day, while US cases have been flat for almost a month.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

23k new cases today

[Dr. Arch]

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 5/30 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

Δ Change: Day-by-day Growth or Decline or COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.

• IE: Are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.

• IE: What's the overall change in the total?

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5/17: <Sunday>

• Cases: 1,526,842 (+21,809 | Δ Change: ↑2.40% | Σ Increase: ↑1.44%)
• Deaths: 90,973 (+1,462 | Δ Change: ↑41.67% | Σ Increase: ↑1.45%)

5/18:

• Cases: 1,550,294 (+23,452 | Δ Change: ↑7.53% | Σ Increase: ↑1.54%)
• Deaths: 91,981 (+1,008 | Δ Change: ↓31.05% | Σ Increase: ↑1.11%)

5/19:

• Cases: 1,570,583 (+20,289 | Δ Change: ↓13.49% | Σ Increase: ↑1.31%)
• Deaths: 93,533 (+1,552 | Δ Change: ↑53.97% | Σ Increase: ↑1.69%)

5/20:

• Cases: 1,591,991 (+21,408 | Δ Change: ↑5.52% | Σ Increase: ↑1.36%)
• Deaths: 94,994 (+1,461 | Δ Change: ↓5.86% | Σ Increase: ↑1.56%)

5/21:

• Cases: 1,620,902 (+28,911 | Δ Change: ↑35.05% | Σ Increase: ↑1.82%)
• Deaths: 96,354 (+1,360 | Δ Change: ↓6.91% | Σ Increase: ↑1.43%)

5/22:

• Cases: 1,645,094 (+24,192 | Δ Change: ↓16.32% | Σ Increase: ↑1.49%)
• Deaths: 97,647 (+1,293 | Δ Change: ↓4.93% | Σ Increase: ↑1.34%)

5/23:

• Cases: 1,666,828 (+21,734 | Δ Change: ↓10.16% | Σ Increase: ↑1.32%)
• Deaths: 98,683 (+1,036 | Δ Change: ↓19.88% | Σ Increase: ↑1.06%)

5/24: <Sunday>

• Cases: 1,686,436 (+19,608 | Δ Change: ↓9.78% | Σ Increase: ↑1.18%)
• Deaths: 99,300 (+617 | Δ Change: ↓40.44% | Σ Increase: ↑0.63%)

5/25:

• Cases: 1,706,224 (+19,788 | Δ Change: ↑0.92% | Σ Increase: ↑1.17%)
• Deaths: 99,805 (+505 | Δ Change: ↓18.15% | Σ Increase: ↑0.51%)

5/26:

• Cases: 1,725,141 (+18,917 | Δ Change: ↓4.40% | Σ Increase: ↑1.11%)
• Deaths: 100,579 (+774 | Δ Change: ↑53.27% | Σ Increase: ↑0.78%)

5/27:

• Cases: 1,745,803 (+20,662 | Δ Change: ↑9.22% | Σ Increase: ↑1.20%)
• Deaths: 102,107 (+1,528 | Δ Change: ↑97.42% | Σ Increase: ↑1.52%)

5/28:

• Cases: 1,768,461 (+22,658 | Δ Change: ↑9.66% | Σ Increase: ↑1.30%)
• Deaths: 103,330 (+1,223 | Δ Change: ↓19.96% | Σ Increase: ↑1.20%)

5/29 (Yesterday):

• Cases: 1,793,530 (+25,069 | Δ Change: ↑10.64% | Σ Increase: ↑1.42%)
• Deaths: 104,542 (+1,212 | Δ Change: ↓0.90% | Σ Increase: ↑1.17%)

5/30 (Today):

• Cases: 1,816,820 (+23,290 | Δ Change: ↓7.10% | Σ Increase: ↑1.30%)
• Deaths: 105,557 (+1,015 | Δ Change: ↓16.25% | Σ Increase: ↑0.97%)

[Donald Trump’s Toupée]

I guess you don’t need to social distance if you’re protesting.
I guess you don’t need to follow curfews if you’re protesting.
I guess you don’t care about tying up vital emergency services if you’re protesting.
So much for all the Coronavirus bullish**t of the last few months.

I guess all the restrictions you put on others don’t apply to yourself. But at least you’re wearing your mask.

[It’s so Joever]

I guess you don’t need to social distance if you’re protesting.
I guess you don’t need to follow curfews if you’re protesting.
I guess you don’t care about tying up vital emergency services if you’re protesting.
So much for all the Coronavirus bullish**t of the last few months.

I guess all the restrictions you put on others don’t apply to yourself. But at least you’re wearing your mask.

If you remove the fourth line, you actually have a point.
The protestors are hypocritical and shouldn’t be doing this right now.

[Donald Trump’s Toupée]

Hey Dr. Fauci, are you going to factor these riots into your models? He’s gotten everything wrong so far, so I have no doubt he will be wrong going forward.

[Beet]

In the past week, new cases worldwide have started to accelerate again and between 40-45% of all new cases worldwide are in the U.S. or Brazil. The thing is going absolutely wild in Brazil.

[Roll Roons]

One thing to note is that deaths have been on a steady downward trend, while cases are largely plateauing. Is the virus is slowly mutating to become less deadly?

[gerritcole]

One thing to note is that deaths have been on a steady downward trend, while cases are largely plateauing. Is the virus is slowly mutating to become less deadly?

I believe greatly increased testing accounts for the constant number of cases