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« Reply #1575 on: October 11, 2019, 01:14:50 AM »

Gore was far stronger on environmental and foreign policy issues than Clinton, which made him a solid choice.
LOL at you thinking voters really considered the politics of the VP choices before casting their vote. Nobody cares if he is moderate, liberal, or otherwise. People vote off of emotion, identity, and their tribe. Gillum is an intelligent black man, with a beautiful young family, and powerful speaking skills. That's all that will matter at the end of the day. It's obvious Warren wants to lean in on ginning up excitement among AAs. She is plenty populist herself for the "WWC"

Who also lost a winnable race. This your old Beto fanboyism coming back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drJ5wPoLTvY&feature=youtu.be Please do watch this from about 11:34 and broaden your mind beyond fantasy tickets.
This isn’t anything other than Gillum would be an interesting choice for Warren. I promise y’all are putting more thought into Gillum’s electoral history than any voter ever will.

Me supporting Beto in the past is irrelevant so not sure why he’s being brought up. Y’all need to stop acting like people haven’t lost races and then ran and won again before.
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« Reply #1576 on: October 11, 2019, 01:31:04 AM »

Shocked no-one mentioned Gillums FBI investigation? Would be a major hurdle
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« Reply #1577 on: October 11, 2019, 03:43:23 AM »

Shocked no-one mentioned Gillums FBI investigation? Would be a major hurdle

Oh apparently that's not a big deal at all.

Gore was far stronger on environmental and foreign policy issues than Clinton, which made him a solid choice.
LOL at you thinking voters really considered the politics of the VP choices before casting their vote. Nobody cares if he is moderate, liberal, or otherwise. People vote off of emotion, identity, and their tribe. Gillum is an intelligent black man, with a beautiful young family, and powerful speaking skills. That's all that will matter at the end of the day. It's obvious Warren wants to lean in on ginning up excitement among AAs. She is plenty populist herself for the "WWC"

Who also lost a winnable race. This your old Beto fanboyism coming back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drJ5wPoLTvY&feature=youtu.be Please do watch this from about 11:34 and broaden your mind beyond fantasy tickets.
This isn’t anything other than Gillum would be an interesting choice for Warren. I promise y’all are putting more thought into Gillum’s electoral history than any voter ever will.

Me supporting Beto in the past is irrelevant so not sure why he’s being brought up. Y’all need to stop acting like people haven’t lost races and then ran and won again before.

Did you even watch it at all?
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« Reply #1578 on: October 11, 2019, 04:22:12 AM »

responding to something a couple of pages back, but

Balance is overrated.  Was Clinton/Gore a "balanced" ticket?

exactly, "balancing the ticket" is largely a myth

Clinton: 46 year old moderate white governor from the upper south
Gore: 44 year old moderate white senator from the upper south

W. Bush: 54 y.o. white conservative Texas oilman who went to Yale, strong ties to GOP national leadership
Cheney: 61 y.o. white conservative Texas oilman who went to Yale, strong ties to GOP national leadership
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« Reply #1579 on: October 11, 2019, 08:22:20 AM »

Those are the voters who'll swing Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania and if you shun them, you lose thise three states and the election.
I don't see any reason to think this is true — it's hard to argue that swings among non-college-educated white voters in these states was the only decisive factor, or somehow more decisive than, say, a decline in black turnout...
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« Reply #1580 on: October 11, 2019, 09:08:16 AM »

This is also how I feel about Gillum.

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« Reply #1581 on: October 11, 2019, 09:13:39 AM »

Gillum would be an okay choice if he wasnt sunk by an FBI investigation in 2018. That alone makes him a horrible choice for an anti-corruption ticket.
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« Reply #1582 on: October 11, 2019, 09:16:42 AM »

I don't see what Gillum adds to the ticket. Abrams would be a great choice, but she will almost certainly sit 2020 out and challenge Kemp in 2022. Am I the only one that thinks there aren't any perfect VP options? Like for any of the candidates?
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« Reply #1583 on: October 11, 2019, 10:05:08 AM »

This is also how I feel about Gillum.


Little does Max know he will join the loser crowd in 2021
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« Reply #1584 on: October 11, 2019, 11:20:17 AM »

I don't see what Gillum adds to the ticket. Abrams would be a great choice, but she will almost certainly sit 2020 out and challenge Kemp in 2022. Am I the only one that thinks there aren't any perfect VP options? Like for any of the candidates?

Tammy Duckworth would be a good VP IMO.

A ticket with two women isn't unlikely, but methinks it won't go over well. I would love this ticket, but you know...America gonna America. Duckworth is also from a safe D state and doesn't necessarily help drive out the voting demographics that Warren needs.
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« Reply #1585 on: October 11, 2019, 11:35:02 AM »

Warren would essentially absorb literally all of the Sanders votes, so isn’t Warren really far in the lead, more than the polls currently indicate?
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« Reply #1586 on: October 11, 2019, 12:17:21 PM »

 I would love to see an all woman ticket.
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« Reply #1587 on: October 11, 2019, 12:28:18 PM »

I would love to see an all woman ticket.
Hell yes.
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« Reply #1588 on: October 11, 2019, 12:45:32 PM »


One would imagine that in the long run this should happen about one in four tickets
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« Reply #1589 on: October 11, 2019, 01:01:20 PM »

Warren would essentially absorb literally all of the Sanders votes, so isn’t Warren really far in the lead, more than the polls currently indicate?
Your working assumption here is that most Sanders voters are ideologically driven — I don't think this is true (for any group of voters, really)
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« Reply #1590 on: October 11, 2019, 01:01:27 PM »

I don't see what Gillum adds to the ticket. Abrams would be a great choice, but she will almost certainly sit 2020 out and challenge Kemp in 2022. Am I the only one that thinks there aren't any perfect VP options? Like for any of the candidates?

Tammy Duckworth would be a good VP IMO.

Heck yeah, she’s one of my favourite candidates for VP.
- She brings military experience to the ticket, in a way that demands respect, but also has experience protecting vets.
- She brings a geographical balance to the ticket, representing the Midwest, which will likely take centre stage.
- She’s a proficient debater with a cool head, as shown in her 2016 debate with Mark Kirk, making her an ideal contrast with Mike Pence.
- Her nomination would assure Asian-Americans that the Democratic Party is not unaware of their role as an emerging demographic whose importance will only grow in the coming years.
- She has an incredible life story, and is a model of resilience, who I imagine could have widespread appeal.
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« Reply #1591 on: October 11, 2019, 02:06:55 PM »

Warren would essentially absorb literally all of the Sanders votes, so isn’t Warren really far in the lead, more than the polls currently indicate?

Probably mostly go to Biden actually. I think there was a recent poll that showed Sanders’ supporters second choice as mostly being Biden.
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« Reply #1592 on: October 11, 2019, 03:42:20 PM »

The problem isn't that people will judge Gillum for losing, it's that he lost. And there's reasons why. Also, he's hardly qualified to be Vice President (and by extension, President).
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« Reply #1593 on: October 11, 2019, 06:35:50 PM »

I don't see what Gillum adds to the ticket. Abrams would be a great choice, but she will almost certainly sit 2020 out and challenge Kemp in 2022. Am I the only one that thinks there aren't any perfect VP options? Like for any of the candidates?

Tammy Duckworth would be a good VP IMO.

A ticket with two women isn't unlikely, but methinks it won't go over well. I would love this ticket, but you know...America gonna America. Duckworth is also from a safe D state and doesn't necessarily help drive out the voting demographics that Warren needs.

And how about Senator Catherine Cortez Masto?  
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« Reply #1594 on: October 11, 2019, 06:37:40 PM »

I don't see what Gillum adds to the ticket. Abrams would be a great choice, but she will almost certainly sit 2020 out and challenge Kemp in 2022. Am I the only one that thinks there aren't any perfect VP options? Like for any of the candidates?

Tammy Duckworth would be a good VP IMO.

A ticket with two women isn't unlikely, but methinks it won't go over well. I would love this ticket, but you know...America gonna America. Duckworth is also from a safe D state and doesn't necessarily help drive out the voting demographics that Warren needs.

And how about Senator Catherine Cortez Masto?  


Would be ideal but she’s DSCC chair.
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« Reply #1595 on: October 11, 2019, 06:41:42 PM »

I don't see what Gillum adds to the ticket. Abrams would be a great choice, but she will almost certainly sit 2020 out and challenge Kemp in 2022. Am I the only one that thinks there aren't any perfect VP options? Like for any of the candidates?

Tammy Duckworth would be a good VP IMO.

A ticket with two women isn't unlikely, but methinks it won't go over well. I would love this ticket, but you know...America gonna America. Duckworth is also from a safe D state and doesn't necessarily help drive out the voting demographics that Warren needs.

And how about Senator Catherine Cortez Masto?  


Would be ideal but she’s DSCC chair.

That is a complication, but not insurmountable.  I like the idea of her as Elizabeth Warren's running-mate in the sense that even if (God forbid) Warren loses narrowly to either Trump or Pence next year, she would be the instant 2024 frontrunner.  And the face of a new generation ready to take over the reins of the Democratic Party from the aging baby boomers.   
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« Reply #1596 on: October 11, 2019, 07:25:55 PM »

I don't see what Gillum adds to the ticket. Abrams would be a great choice, but she will almost certainly sit 2020 out and challenge Kemp in 2022. Am I the only one that thinks there aren't any perfect VP options? Like for any of the candidates?

Tammy Duckworth would be a good VP IMO.

A ticket with two women isn't unlikely, but methinks it won't go over well. I would love this ticket, but you know...America gonna America. Duckworth is also from a safe D state and doesn't necessarily help drive out the voting demographics that Warren needs.

And how about Senator Catherine Cortez Masto?  


Would be ideal but she’s DSCC chair.

That is a complication, but not insurmountable.  I like the idea of her as Elizabeth Warren's running-mate in the sense that even if (God forbid) Warren loses narrowly to either Trump or Pence next year, she would be the instant 2024 frontrunner.  And the face of a new generation ready to take over the reins of the Democratic Party from the aging baby boomers.   


What? Tim Kaine wasn’t the instant frontrunner this time.
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« Reply #1597 on: October 11, 2019, 07:53:49 PM »

I can't wait to see a fellow boy from Queens, our amazing President, embarrass Pocahontas in front of the whole wide world when he decisively defeats her in a little over a year.

Assuming it is Lying Liz, we have nothing to fear.
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« Reply #1598 on: October 11, 2019, 08:13:58 PM »

I can't wait to see a fellow boy from Queens, our amazing President, embarrass Pocahontas in front of the whole wide world when he decisively defeats her in a little over a year.

Assuming it is Lying Liz, we have nothing to fear.

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« Reply #1599 on: October 11, 2019, 08:42:17 PM »

I can't wait to see a fellow boy from Queens, our amazing President, embarrass Pocahontas in front of the whole wide world when he decisively defeats her in a little over a year.

Assuming it is Lying Liz, we have nothing to fear.

No way! Warren will take Trump down big time.
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