Elizabeth Warren 2020 campaign megathread

[Calthrina950]

Why some of the blame goes to Bill Nelson losing a gimme race, Gillum should've won a Trump +1 state in a D +9 year.

 Every state is unique to itself. Large parts of Florida are basically "the south". Older Cuban voters have never been particularly favorable to black candidates. Gillum was always facing a strong headwind. The polls and national atmosphere didn't mean anything down here.

Why did Obama did relatively well in FL in 2012, especially compared to other Dems in recent years then?

He ignores that Obama won Florida in 2012 against Romney, when he was expected to lose it, because he improved among Hispanic voters compared to 2008. He did better among Cubans and among Puerto Ricans. Had Obama gotten his 2008 numbers among that group, he probably would have lost the state.

[GP270watch]

Why did Obama did relatively well in FL in 2012, especially compared to other Dems in recent years then?

 Obama was a once in a generation candidate and most of his support from Cuban voters was from younger Cuban-American voters.

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Why did Obama did relatively well in FL in 2012, especially compared to other Dems in recent years then?

 Obama was a once in a generation candidate.

McCain would have won Florida if the economy wasn't in free fall on election day.

[JG]

Gore was far stronger on environmental and foreign policy issues than Clinton, which made him a solid choice.

LOL at you thinking voters really considered the politics of the VP choices before casting their vote. Nobody cares if he is moderate, liberal, or otherwise. People vote off of emotion, identity, and their tribe. Gillum is an intelligent black man, with a beautiful young family, and powerful speaking skills. That's all that will matter at the end of the day. It's obvious Warren wants to lean in on ginning up excitement among AAs. She is plenty populist herself for the "WWC"

I agree. However, my only doubts regarding Gillum is the ethics investigation that could very well turn into another ''but her emails'' if he was tapped as VP.

[JG]

I would be a lot more willing to back and be comfortable with a Warren/Abrams ticket.

I agree. I think she brings all the advantages Gillum brings, without the burden of an ethics investigation.

[Calthrina950]

Gore was far stronger on environmental and foreign policy issues than Clinton, which made him a solid choice.

LOL at you thinking voters really considered the politics of the VP choices before casting their vote. Nobody cares if he is moderate, liberal, or otherwise. People vote off of emotion, identity, and their tribe. Gillum is an intelligent black man, with a beautiful young family, and powerful speaking skills. That's all that will matter at the end of the day. It's obvious Warren wants to lean in on ginning up excitement among AAs. She is plenty populist herself for the "WWC"

I agree. However, my only doubts regarding Gillum is the ethics investigation that could very well turn into another ''but her emails'' if he was tapped as VP.

Gillum would be a disaster for Democrats if he were chosen as Warren's vice-presidential running mate. He couldn't win in Florida, in a Democratic "wave" year, to say nothing of the ethics allegations against him. Warren would be better served by choosing someone like Castro.

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

No losers pls

[Spiffy]

Gore was far stronger on environmental and foreign policy issues than Clinton, which made him a solid choice.

LOL at you thinking voters really considered the politics of the VP choices before casting their vote. Nobody cares if he is moderate, liberal, or otherwise. People vote off of emotion, identity, and their tribe. Gillum is an intelligent black man, with a beautiful young family, and powerful speaking skills. That's all that will matter at the end of the day. It's obvious Warren wants to lean in on ginning up excitement among AAs. She is plenty populist herself for the "WWC"

This is very true.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Why is the Democratic Party so obsessed with these two losers?

Abrams lost.  Gillum lost.  They both lost winnable elections in a wave year.  They're welcome to try again next cycle.  But I wouldn't even say their political skills are above average, much less the prodigy-level talent they would need to make a jump from local politics to the White House even remotely justifiable.

[IceSpear]

Why is the Democratic Party so obsessed with these two losers?

Abrams lost.  Gillum lost.  They both lost winnable elections in a wave year.  They're welcome to try again next cycle.  But I wouldn't even say their political skills are above average, much less the prodigy-level talent they would need to make a jump from local politics to the White House even remotely justifiable.

Abrams' performance was actually extremely impressive though. Gillum's...was not.

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

Why is the Democratic Party so obsessed with these two losers?

Abrams lost.  Gillum lost.  They both lost winnable elections in a wave year.  They're welcome to try again next cycle.  But I wouldn't even say their political skills are above average, much less the prodigy-level talent they would need to make a jump from local politics to the White House even remotely justifiable.

Abrams had her election stolen from her. Gillum did not.

[TrendsareUsuallyReal]

I’ve said at least five times on here that a hypothetical Governor Gillum would be the best VP choice Warren could make. But alas, he decided to phone in the last month of the race on the basis of favorable September polls

[TrendsareUsuallyReal]

Why is the Democratic Party so obsessed with these two losers?

Abrams lost.  Gillum lost.  They both lost winnable elections in a wave year.  They're welcome to try again next cycle.  But I wouldn't even say their political skills are above average, much less the prodigy-level talent they would need to make a jump from local politics to the White House even remotely justifiable.

Abrams' performance was actually extremely impressive though. Gillum's...was not.

Yeah, there’s no doubt in my mind that’s Gillum would have won if he had ran the kind of race Abrams did

[GP270watch]

People in here are so delusional talking about Obama won Florida and gimme races to slag off Abrams and Gillium. Exactly how many black governors have been elected in this country?

The answer is only two.

Douglas Wilder - Virginia
Deval Patrick - Massachusetts

Black candidates winning statewide office especially in the south has always been an uphill climb. To put it into perspective how ridiculous this fact is, two Indian Americans have been elected governor in southern states. Just think about that.

[TrendsareUsuallyReal]

People in here are so delusional talking about Obama won Florida and gimme races to slag off Abrams and Gillium. Exactly how many black governors have been elected in this country?

The answer is only two.

Douglas Wilder - Virginia
Deval Patrick - Massachusetts

Black candidates winning statewide office especially in the south has always been an uphill climb. To put it into perspective how ridiculous this fact is, two Indian Americans have been elected governor in southern states. Just think about that.

Hardly anyone here is slagging off Abrams. Her performance was indeed impressive. It's Gillum who had no excuse for losing in Florida with the environment that 2018 was in.

[GP270watch]

Context matters please read my post again and really think about it.

[NYSforKennedy2024]

The Warren campaign is rumored to have been reaching out to Andrew Gillum, recently, per reports.

Thoughts on the possibile ticket?

I don't think it could last against Trump. I can't see them winning the Rust Belt, possibly even losing Florida too.

Gillum lost. We need to get over him.

[Devout Centrist]

The Warren campaign is rumored to have been reaching out to Andrew Gillum, recently, per reports.

Thoughts on the possibile ticket?

I don't think it could last against Trump. I can't see them winning the Rust Belt, possibly even losing Florida too.

Gillum lost. We need to get over him.

Yes, we ought to get over him, Mr. KANDER2020

[NYSforKennedy2024]

The Warren campaign is rumored to have been reaching out to Andrew Gillum, recently, per reports.

Thoughts on the possibile ticket?

I don't think it could last against Trump. I can't see them winning the Rust Belt, possibly even losing Florida too.

Gillum lost. We need to get over him.

Yes, we ought to get over him, Mr. KANDER2020

I mean, besides not being able to change that, I don't try to prolong a completely dead in the water political career that has no chance of winning the Rust Belt back.

[Pyro]

Warren had a moment at the town hall tonight.

https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1182468483906527232

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Warren had a moment at the town hall tonight.

https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1182468483906527232

It’s moments like these (which she has a lot of) that constantly make me question how people make the argument that Warren isn’t charismatic or likeable. Hillary never had moments like these last cycle. Warren’s probably one of the genuinely funniest candidates in the race.

[Cinemark]

Right after that clip, Warren was asked if she ever was against Same-sex marriage while she was a republican and she gave a very heartfelt answer including singing a bible study song. Warren oozes a kind of geniune'ness that i dont think i've ever seen in a politican before. If nothing else, her sick read probably won over some people tonight.

[GoTfan]

Gore was far stronger on environmental and foreign policy issues than Clinton, which made him a solid choice.

LOL at you thinking voters really considered the politics of the VP choices before casting their vote. Nobody cares if he is moderate, liberal, or otherwise. People vote off of emotion, identity, and their tribe. Gillum is an intelligent black man, with a beautiful young family, and powerful speaking skills. That's all that will matter at the end of the day. It's obvious Warren wants to lean in on ginning up excitement among AAs. She is plenty populist herself for the "WWC"

Who also lost a winnable race. This your old Beto fanboyism coming back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drJ5wPoLTvY&feature=youtu.be Please do watch this from about 11:34 and broaden your mind beyond fantasy tickets.

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

Warren had a moment at the town hall tonight.

https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1182468483906527232

I love her. I ****ing love her.

[Thank you for being a friend...]

Warren had a moment at the town hall tonight.

https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1182468483906527232

I love her. I ****ing love her.

That was good (: