2020 AZ Senate Megathread: Kelly's Race to Lose
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« Reply #350 on: January 17, 2019, 01:06:52 PM »

Shame.
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« Reply #351 on: January 17, 2019, 01:08:20 PM »

Why people are so excited for Kelly? He has never ran for anything, so it's totally unknown if he is actually at all this campaigning thing.

Kelly also endorsed PAT TOOMEY in a crucial Senate race.
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« Reply #352 on: January 17, 2019, 01:49:05 PM »

Why people are so excited for Kelly? He has never ran for anything, so it's totally unknown if he is actually at all this campaigning thing.

Kelly also endorsed PAT TOOMEY in a crucial Senate race.

Anyone who endorses Pat Tumor should never be allowed anywhere near a Democratic nomination.
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« Reply #353 on: January 17, 2019, 03:22:22 PM »

Why people are so excited for Kelly? He has never ran for anything, so it's totally unknown if he is actually at all this campaigning thing.

Kelly also endorsed PAT TOOMEY in a crucial Senate race.
He also backed Mark Kirk over Tammy Duckworth up until Kirk was racist.

Kelly has a great backstory, but the safest candidate here is clearly Gallego.
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« Reply #354 on: January 17, 2019, 04:58:56 PM »

Why people are so excited for Kelly? He has never ran for anything, so it's totally unknown if he is actually at all this campaigning thing.

He has a good biography and no political baggage that can be used to attack.
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« Reply #355 on: January 17, 2019, 05:25:06 PM »

Mark Kelly would win even more than Sinema.
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« Reply #356 on: January 17, 2019, 06:30:52 PM »

Kelly would literally #destroy  great candidate

theres a ton of republicans in AZ yet their bench isnt phenomenal. When Ducey appointed McCsally literally the only talking point for them was "because she just ran in an election" (despite the fact she was the first republican to loose a senate election in like 40 years)  like they literally could have chosen sooo many other people that are qualified but they chose mcsally, definitely a bench issue.

Gallego v Kelly would be a fun primary. Kelly would be someone who all dems could support, he has establishment charecteristics  yet his work with gun reform would solidify progressive wing around him.

Dem base in AZ isnt  the bernie crowd so I would expect Kelly to edge out gallego.
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« Reply #357 on: January 17, 2019, 06:57:04 PM »

Why people are so excited for Kelly? He has never ran for anything, so it's totally unknown if he is actually at all this campaigning thing.

Kelly also endorsed PAT TOOMEY in a crucial Senate race.

I think that was Giffords anti-gun PAC, not Kelly himself.
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« Reply #358 on: January 17, 2019, 07:06:36 PM »

Why people are so excited for Kelly? He has never ran for anything, so it's totally unknown if he is actually at all this campaigning thing.

Kelly also endorsed PAT TOOMEY in a crucial Senate race.

I think that was Giffords anti-gun PAC, not Kelly himself.

Kelly/Giffords run the PAC themselves, so it's basically them endorsing Toomey.
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« Reply #359 on: January 17, 2019, 07:39:27 PM »

Why people are so excited for Kelly? He has never ran for anything, so it's totally unknown if he is actually at all this campaigning thing.

Kelly also endorsed PAT TOOMEY in a crucial Senate race.

I think that was Giffords anti-gun PAC, not Kelly himself.
I am certain it wasn't done without their willing consent.
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« Reply #360 on: January 17, 2019, 08:19:30 PM »


Well, Schumer was right about Sinema.
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« Reply #361 on: January 17, 2019, 08:22:51 PM »

The most simple reason to support Kelly over Gallego is that he doesn't have a voting record. Kelly would basically be a blank slate if he ran.
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« Reply #362 on: January 18, 2019, 08:11:22 AM »

why did republicans choose mcsally who just lost election to defend seat in 2020 and 2022? looks like they really want to lose arizona for good.
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« Reply #363 on: January 18, 2019, 08:47:20 AM »

why did republicans choose mcsally who just lost election to defend seat in 2020 and 2022? looks like they really want to lose arizona for good.

To be fair, there isnt really that much of a bench for the Rs in the state, surprisingly. Many of the house Reps arent really viable in a general election, and the strongest choice, Ducey, is unable to make the jump due to the fact that the Dems won the SoS, who would replace him.

McSally was one of their best picks, and even then, its pretty bad.
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« Reply #364 on: January 18, 2019, 10:43:02 AM »

why did republicans choose mcsally who just lost election to defend seat in 2020 and 2022? looks like they really want to lose arizona for good.

To be fair, there isnt really that much of a bench for the Rs in the state, surprisingly. Many of the house Reps arent really viable in a general election, and the strongest choice, Ducey, is unable to make the jump due to the fact that the Dems won the SoS, who would replace him.

McSally was one of their best picks, and even then, its pretty bad.

trump won that state easily, and mcsally lost from lgbt(!) candidate. that means she's very weak and totally unacceptable to independent voters. i think arpaio is best choice.
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« Reply #365 on: January 18, 2019, 11:20:05 AM »

why did republicans choose mcsally who just lost election to defend seat in 2020 and 2022? looks like they really want to lose arizona for good.

To be fair, there isnt really that much of a bench for the Rs in the state, surprisingly. Many of the house Reps arent really viable in a general election, and the strongest choice, Ducey, is unable to make the jump due to the fact that the Dems won the SoS, who would replace him.

McSally was one of their best picks, and even then, its pretty bad.

trump won that state easily, and mcsally lost from lgbt(!) candidate. that means she's very weak and totally unacceptable to independent voters. i think arpaio is best choice.

Trump only won the state by 3.5%, the same margin Clinton won ME. Thats hardly an "easy" victory. And Arpaio was the worst possible candidate you could put up. I mean, the guy was predicted to lose by 15 points while McSally was predicted to win. Even if he did narrow the margins, he would instantly make the race lean D/likely D.
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« Reply #366 on: January 18, 2019, 12:24:41 PM »

Calling it now, Gallego v. McSally is Lean D. I really could see (not saying it will happen!) McSally losing even if Trump carries the state.
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« Reply #367 on: January 18, 2019, 04:39:29 PM »

Identifying good candidates is quite literally the only thing Schumer is good at.
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« Reply #368 on: January 18, 2019, 05:36:28 PM »

FWIW Kelly's group no doubt endorsed Toomey because he sponsored Manchin-Toomey
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« Reply #369 on: January 18, 2019, 10:44:47 PM »

Identifying good candidates is quite literally the only thing Schumer is good at.

This is sincere, right? Who has he drafted previously?
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« Reply #370 on: January 18, 2019, 10:58:10 PM »

Identifying good candidates is quite literally the only thing Schumer is good at.

This is sincere, right? Who has he drafted previously?

I assume Schumer had something to do with Jones, Sinema, Bredesen and Beto. Even Rosen wasn't bad, despite what Atlas says, but Harry Reid was the one who found her.
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« Reply #371 on: January 18, 2019, 11:05:19 PM »

Calling it now, Gallego v. McSally is Lean D. I really could see (not saying it will happen!) McSally losing even if Trump carries the state.

Pretty much any D v. McSally is Lean D. I agree that she will most likely underperform Trump (who will probably lose the state anyway, so yeah...).
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« Reply #372 on: January 19, 2019, 03:25:39 PM »

Identifying good candidates is quite literally the only thing Schumer is good at.

This is sincere, right? Who has he drafted previously?

He has been the brains behind most of the party's A+ recruits since he led the DSCC in 2006. From what I've heard, he essentially recruited Bredesen single-handedly (which made Bredesen's ridiculous vow to oppose him as leader even more absurd). He should be permanent DSCC leader imo, somebody tougher and more skilled at legislating should be leader.
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« Reply #373 on: January 19, 2019, 03:32:21 PM »

Identifying good candidates is quite literally the only thing Schumer is good at.

This is sincere, right? Who has he drafted previously?

He has been the brains behind most of the party's A+ recruits since he led the DSCC in 2006. From what I've heard, he essentially recruited Bredesen single-handedly (which made Bredesen's ridiculous vow to oppose him as leader even more absurd). He should be permanent DSCC leader imo, somebody tougher and more skilled at legislating should be leader.

Yeah, Bredesen was such a star recruit he lost by 10 points. Tongue
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« Reply #374 on: January 19, 2019, 03:50:34 PM »

Identifying good candidates is quite literally the only thing Schumer is good at.

This is sincere, right? Who has he drafted previously?

He has been the brains behind most of the party's A+ recruits since he led the DSCC in 2006. From what I've heard, he essentially recruited Bredesen single-handedly (which made Bredesen's ridiculous vow to oppose him as leader even more absurd). He should be permanent DSCC leader imo, somebody tougher and more skilled at legislating should be leader.

Yeah, Bredesen was such a star recruit he lost by 10 points. Tongue

But he still forced Republicans to spend money in a normally safe state. Money that could have gone to West Virginia or Montana.
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