2020 AZ Senate Megathread: Kelly's Race to Lose
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« Reply #100 on: December 18, 2018, 10:49:41 AM »


Hehe

It's clobberin time!
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« Reply #101 on: December 18, 2018, 10:50:58 AM »

How many minutes until Ward announces a primary challenge?
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« Reply #102 on: December 18, 2018, 10:52:46 AM »

McSally's tactics against Sinema were ineffective. She'll have to run a much better campaign in 2020 in order to win, obviously. Pros are that maybe she won't have a circus of a primary to deal with. Cons are that if Trump screws up and loses, she probably will too.
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« Reply #103 on: December 18, 2018, 10:55:19 AM »

So it looks like the freshmen seniority order will be as follows:
1. Blackburn (former Rep for 16 yrs)
2. Sinema (former Rep for 6 yrs)
3. Cramer (former Rep for 6 yrs)
4. McSally (former Rep for 4 yrs)
5. Rosen (former Rep for 2 yrs)
6. Scott (former Gov)
7. Romney (former Gov)
8. Braun
9. Hawley
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« Reply #104 on: December 18, 2018, 10:56:42 AM »

McSally's tactics against Sinema were ineffective. She'll have to run a much better campaign in 2020 in order to win, obviously. Pros are that maybe she won't have a circus of a primary to deal with. Cons are that if Trump screws up and loses, she probably will too.


The fact that she just lost means that other Republicans are itching to primary her.
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« Reply #105 on: December 18, 2018, 11:00:53 AM »

To me, this whole McSally appointment honestly feels both democratic & antidemocratic at the same time. It feels like a slap in the face to the electorate that just rejected her, but it was a very close race, w/ nearly half of voters wanting McSally. Not to mention, Ducey is legally obligated to appoint a Republican to the seat, & McSally is actually the most recent winner of an AZ Republican U.S. Senate primary. She's the candidate Arizona's Republicans want representing them, so maybe she should be the appointee. As much as I'm not a fan of her personally, this honestly really isn't as much of an objective slap in the face as it may feel like it is (even though it does feel like a slap in the face lol).
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« Reply #106 on: December 18, 2018, 11:05:32 AM »

So it looks like the freshmen seniority order will be as follows:
1. Blackburn (former Rep for 16 yrs)
2. Sinema (former Rep for 6 yrs)
3. Cramer (former Rep for 6 yrs)
4. McSally (former Rep for 4 yrs)
5. Rosen (former Rep for 2 yrs)
6. Scott (former Gov)
7. Romney (former Gov)
8. Braun (IN 17th in pop. in 2010 census)
9. Hawley (MO 18th in pop. in 2010 census)


Scott's delaying his swearing-in by 5 days to finish out his term as Governor, so he'll be 100th.

*also added the rationale for Braun & Hawley's seniority placements lol
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« Reply #107 on: December 18, 2018, 11:08:42 AM »

Arizona has gone from never having a female Senator to having 2 bring sworn in the same time. Historic.
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« Reply #108 on: December 18, 2018, 11:08:52 AM »
« Edited: December 18, 2018, 11:13:38 AM by Sadader »

Kirsten Sinema and Martha McSally pictured immediately after being sworn in, January 3rd 2019

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« Reply #109 on: December 18, 2018, 11:10:46 AM »

He should've appointed a placeholder and leave Republican voters to decide who will be the person  they want to defend this seat.
Appointing a loser only a few weeks after she lost, is indeed a huge middle finger to the electorate.
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« Reply #110 on: December 18, 2018, 11:14:07 AM »

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« Reply #111 on: December 18, 2018, 11:14:50 AM »

He should've appointed a placeholder and leave Republican voters to decide who will be the person  they want to defend this seat.
Appointing a loser only a few weeks after she lost, is indeed a huge middle finger to the electorate.
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« Reply #112 on: December 18, 2018, 11:16:04 AM »

Damn you, Ducey!
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« Reply #113 on: December 18, 2018, 11:16:58 AM »

He should've appointed a placeholder and leave Republican voters to decide who will be the person  they want to defend this seat.
Appointing a loser only a few weeks after she lost, is indeed a huge middle finger to the electorate.

Ducey hasn't given up his own asperations to get to the Senate after finishing his 2nd Term as Governor.

He has some Options now especially if McSally loses in 2020. He could then run in 2022 or run against Sinema in 2024.
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« Reply #114 on: December 18, 2018, 11:19:55 AM »

He should've appointed a placeholder and leave Republican voters to decide who will be the person  they want to defend this seat.
Appointing a loser only a few weeks after she lost, is indeed a huge middle finger to the electorate.

Ducey hasn't given up his own asperations to get to the Senate after finishing his 2nd Term as Governor.

He has some Options now especially if McSally loses in 2020. He could then run in 2022 or run against Sinema in 2024.

It's getting harder every year with Arizona fast moving to the left.
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« Reply #115 on: December 18, 2018, 11:20:37 AM »

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« Reply #116 on: December 18, 2018, 11:20:40 AM »

Hehe!

It's clobberin time!
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« Reply #117 on: December 18, 2018, 11:24:04 AM »

In what universe is this a savvy political move on Ducey’s part? The voters literally just rejected McSally.
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« Reply #118 on: December 18, 2018, 11:24:53 AM »

McSally is going to fulfill Arizona Democrats' dream of having both senate seat.
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« Reply #119 on: December 18, 2018, 11:26:07 AM »

In what universe is this a savvy political move on Ducey’s part? The voters literally just rejected McSally.

McSally is going to fulfill Arizona Democrats' dream of having both senate seat.
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« Reply #120 on: December 18, 2018, 11:27:33 AM »

He should've appointed a placeholder and leave Republican voters to decide who will be the person  they want to defend this seat.
Appointing a loser only a few weeks after she lost, is indeed a huge middle finger to the electorate.

Ducey hasn't given up his own asperations to get to the Senate after finishing his 2nd Term as Governor.

He has some Options now especially if McSally loses in 2020. He could then run in 2022 or run against Sinema in 2024.

It's getting harder every year with Arizona fast moving to the left.

Not for a Popular Governor like Ducey.

Everyone said it would be hard for Rick Scott to beat Bill Nelson. He's now a Senator-elect and AZ is still more Republican than Florida is.

I can see Ducey running in 2022 when his Term is up if McSally loses in 2020. If she wins he could run against Sinema.
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« Reply #121 on: December 18, 2018, 11:27:41 AM »

In what universe is this a savvy political move on Ducey’s part? The voters literally just rejected McSally.

McSally is going to fulfill Arizona Democrats' dream of having both senate seat.

Word on the street is Ducey told McSally she needed a better operation in 2 years. Also keep in mind Sinema won due to 12% Republican support (she was the only Dem to win Maricopa) in a Democratic year thanks to having so long to paint herself as a centrist, and I don't think anybody can replicate that formula to the extent she did, the extent that just barely let her win.
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« Reply #122 on: December 18, 2018, 11:27:54 AM »

In what universe is this a savvy political move on Ducey’s part? The voters literally just rejected McSally.

I think Ducey frankly doesn't give a damn.

Ward will Primary her, I guarantee it and if not, Janet Napolitano will take the seat. He just moved this seat to Lean or Likely D just from this sheer idiocracy
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« Reply #123 on: December 18, 2018, 11:29:36 AM »

In what universe is this a savvy political move on Ducey’s part? The voters literally just rejected McSally.

I think Ducey frankly doesn't give a damn.

Ward will Primary her, I guarantee it and if not, Janet Napolitano will take the seat. He just moved this seat to Lean or Likely D just from this sheer idiocracy
Janet Napolitano lives in California now.
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« Reply #124 on: December 18, 2018, 11:29:48 AM »

In what universe is this a savvy political move on Ducey’s part? The voters literally just rejected McSally.

McSally is going to fulfill Arizona Democrats' dream of having both senate seat.

Word on the street is Ducey told McSally she needed a better operation in 2 years. Also keep in mind Sinema won due to 12% Republican support (she was the only Dem to win Maricopa) in a Democratic year thanks to having so long to paint herself as a centrist, and I don't think anybody can replicate that formula to the extent she did, the extent that just barely let her win.

McSally has Trump shackled to her ankle and Trump is going to be on the ballot.
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