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April 21, 2021, 10:32:07 PM

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 on: Today at 10:32:02 PM 
Started by TheReckoning - Last post by Virginiá
Considering that young people are, overall, >60% Dem-leaning by presidential vote, and that these kinds of forums skew heavily towards college educated (or those on their way), you're looking at a much more Dem-leaning demographic. This is even more relevant in an era where both parties see little in common on just about everything, but even less than on political issues that interest them. A structural imbalance this sharp on a forum in the era of Donald Trump (even post) is exceedingly difficult for Republicans to weather given what Trump did to the GOP. I don't think this forum would ever likely be 50/50, but it probably had a better shot at maintaining a closer split had Trump not run in 2015.

Xahar really hit the nail on the head better than just about anyone else could, but to be a little more specific, a more specific example of a common disagreement that the parties share is now that Donald Trump, the man who leaned heavily on the DoJ to investigate his political rivals, attempted to rig the census to boost Republicans, attempted to cripple the USPS in order to make all-mail voting unfeasible (due to common conservative belief that more voters hurts them), and generally went about as far as any modern president has gone in leveraging federal power to win an election, only "lost" the election because of massive fraud centered exclusively around battleground states he lost, implying he actually won in a landslide but had it stolen from him. Democrats counter this by saying that there is literally no evidence of meaningful amounts of fraud and that nearly the entire Republican Party now believes this lie simply because Trump stated it, and it of course fed into their pre-existing beliefs that elections they lose are stolen. Where does this fit in on a forum centered around political cartography and election results? This is literally youtube comments section-level drivel.

I think that touches on what Xahar says - that mainstream GOP opinion has become nothing but endless cultural grievances, troubling levels of racism and and nonsense conspiracy theories. There just isn't a whole lot to talk about unless you're already a partisan Republican, and the level to which others would have to suspend their disbelief to talk to people who in one way or another supported Donald Trump for years without getting irritated is just too steep. This is part of the price that must be paid for putting such a belligerent agitator into office.

A while back, I made a post asking if Atlas had less active users than it had in its earlier past. I found out that statistically, the answer was no- there are actually more active users now (although not by much).

I don't mean to get too off-topic, but more than double the active users is considerably more than 'not by much.'

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 on: Today at 10:30:31 PM 
Started by #TheShadowyAbyss - Last post by Donerail
I went from a pretty standard libertarian to a pretty far left wing person. College moderated me a bit, actually. So on the whole, I've moved pretty far to the left. But in the last 5 years or so, I've moved more to the center.
^Same

I was never particularly right-wing on economics but definitely identified as a libertarian when I joined the forum (in middle school). Teenage libertarianism is a sort of fever, you either sweat it out or it kills you; I chose the former & ended up a full-blown socialist in college. I feel like I've moved substantially back toward the center since then, though it may just be that the importance of various issues has shifted.

I think the more important "ideological" movement, for me, has been picking a handful of issues to focus on. I have strong opinions about environmental conservation, universal healthcare, housing, and "economic issues" (workers rights, economic inequality, the social safety net and the labor movement), and I view most issues through those lenses, but I don't really feel the need to stake out a position on each and every issue and hold forth on all of them equally under the framework of "libertarianism" or "socialism" or some such thing. I attribute that mostly to no longer spending my weekends writing long electoral platforms for Fantasyland purposes.

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 on: Today at 10:30:02 PM 
Started by Suburbia - Last post by PSOL
The smaller and more alternative news of the various people’s of the United States need to be sponsored and supported by the government. The corporate press needs to go though.


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 on: Today at 10:28:01 PM 
Started by Clinton/Kaine/ Northam/ Biden/Warner voter for Cox - Last post by PSOL
Kyrsten Sinema’s entire schtick seems to be based on trolling.

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 on: Today at 10:27:40 PM 
Started by MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! - Last post by dw93
First Degree Murder
Rape
Child Molestation
Terrorism
Treason

Given the events of January 6th, I'd also like to add sedition and insurrection.

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 on: Today at 10:26:55 PM 
Started by Suburbia - Last post by John Adams
Hell NO, and who the f**K voted yes?

People tired of Bronz's bait threads.

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 on: Today at 10:26:32 PM 
Started by أندراوس - Last post by The Sun Also Rises

He once sat next to a Jewish Holocaust survivor who was critical of the Israeli government. Clearly he's worse than Hitler.

He's also been at multiple events over multiple years with holocaust deniers but thank you for outing yourself as someone who trivializes the suffering of other people for sh***y cheap shots for partisan gain.

I will never criticize any Holocaust survivor for political stances - they have gone through suffering that I hope no one ever has to go through. I also think people are allowed to have differing opinions but one person doesn't get to speak for an entire peoplehood.

Sources of Corbyn and his supporters associating with Holocaust deniers:

1.  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/20/jeremy-corbyns-10-year-association-group-denies-holocaust/
2. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2020/feb/22/uk-left-activists-at-far-right-events-antisemites-holocaust-deniers



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 on: Today at 10:25:51 PM 
Started by PSOL - Last post by PSOL
Learning that Socialist Alternative and their international was once workerist is something I’m not prepared for.

I’ve added Lpedia and Marxists.org, ran famously by the Cliffites, to the aggregate news and archive forum, mainly due to their immense information that goes above and beyond. Do realize their biases though.

So for those familiar with IPR, does anyone know what’s going on in there. The new site owner is getting a lot of flack for posting the entire ramblings of Don Grundmann, and Socratic Gadfly is apparently skeptical now of posting their.

Can any old timers tell me what’s the beef in that place? And why is BAN filled with such anal commenters too, like the most cool-headed person is Richard Winger on both forums lol.

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 on: Today at 10:25:02 PM 
Started by TheReckoning - Last post by John Adams
While we're busy debating how to redefine basic English words and inventing new and innovative ways to be gay, Chinese teenagers are right now developing the military technology that will someday be used to put us in our place.

Blessed future.

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 on: Today at 10:23:23 PM 
Started by TheReckoning - Last post by TheReckoning
So based on the results of this poll, it appears most Atlasians do not believe in the identity of trans people, but still respect them by doing things like using their preferred pronouns. Interesting.

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