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Half the country either disagrees or doesn't know/no opinion. And less than half of independents agree. Also asked whether the trial was far - 47% said yes, the rest either no or don't know/no opinion. Independents were at 42% fair. Based on this poll, clearly the country is not unified around this verdict.

https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1796468845965910348

It would have been too kind of the Tories to simply hand the seat to the Lib Dems.

Most likely, but I doubt Biden would've run.

https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/1796532671763689723

Harry Enten has gotten so bad, it's really sad to see. He was literally just touting *yesterday* that the trial was making no impact (which wasn't a surprise to anyone given that there were no cameras in the courtroom and everything was filtered through reporters everyday) - he's a mess.

Yes, CNN has really wasted Harry.  He was such a good analyst when he was with 538.

I genuinely feel bad for him because he seems to only get trotted out like once a day for 3 minutes to do some crosstab diving or something but then his analysis has also been genuinely awful on the subjects so its hard to even feel bad for him. It feels like he stopped doing actual good analysis work and is just doing weird blah punditry now. Talent really wasted, and it feels like he's just succumbed to it.

I would like to see a poll that finds how many people think he's guilty and will still vote for him anyway

Good, presidents shouldn't be above the law. If prosecuting a president for a financial crime really tears up your country to the point where civil unrest is possible then your are living in a joke country.

I'm just gonna post some stuff I said las year that basically sum up my thinking:

Seriously, one of the biggest grievances that people all around the world have is that politicians seem to be able to do whatever they want and rarely have to face legal consequences. The fact that a possible Trump indictment produces such terror and arguments about "precedent" or some such bullcrap is pretty messed up.

Yes, leaders around the world have had, still have and will always have some sort of legal leeway to do things in some matters related to the security and the regular functioning of a nation state, all of this has absolutely nothing to do with regular crimes commited by a politician.

If you believe that a politician arrested and convicted for, let's say, embezzlement will lead to them being convicted for things related to actual national security then you are reaching fantasy territory.
For all your talk about "Law and order" you must think very poorly about your legal system, since you believe that, in the future, any politician that would be accused of anything would definitely be found guilty by the courts. Ironic because with that mindset, in Argentina you would be a defender of Cristina Kirchner and talk about judicial and political persecution

https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/1796532671763689723

Harry Enten has gotten so bad, it's really sad to see. He was literally just touting *yesterday* that the trial was making no impact (which wasn't a surprise to anyone given that there were no cameras in the courtroom and everything was filtered through reporters everyday) - he's a mess.

Yes, CNN has really wasted Harry.  He was such a good analyst when he was with 538.

Morning everyone.  

I slept like a baby last night. How'd y'all make out?

Let’s say Kasich won the nomination in 2016 and he beat Clinton in the general election. How would he have done in 2020? Would he have beaten Joe Biden even with the Covid pandemic?

[AVERAGE NEW YORKERS]

I know Republicans have no soul and are completely shameless, but it's still astounding to me the level at which they are all going after this trial, calling it politically motivated, calling it rigged, a sham, etc etc when once again, for the 100th time, this trial was not decided by Bragg. Not by Biden, not by Hochul, not by a Democrat, but A JURY - A JURY OF AVERAGE NEW YORKERS. THEY decided Trump was guilty. You can't claim this whole thing is a sham when 12 normal people sat and heard the evidence and saw Trump was guilty. It's just a completely asinine and ridiculous argument.

If this was Kathy Hochul deciding the verdict then sure, you could be ridiculous and claim it. But it's not. It's just pathetic

The average New Yorker, specifically Manhattanite, is overwhelmingly liberal. Not an objective panel, a bunch of left wing hacks. Their opinion means less than nothing to me and they deserve to be shamed for the rest of their lives. Hoping and praying they get doxxed.

If you have issues with the jury, take it up with Todd Blanche. He signed off on all those people. Also reporting you for this comment. Asking for these people to be doxxed is disgusting- you should be ashamed of yourself.

I think the weaponization of law enforcement is disgusting, so you and I just have a difference of opinion. But if you want that comment taken down, I'll do that.

You mean like when an FBI director announces 11 days before an election that he's re-opening an investigation into a presidential candidate who had already been cleared of wrongdoing?

I thought you people liked Comey?

"You people?" You need to log off, bro. The trauma of daddy Trump getting owned is clearly affecting you.

Not a Trump supporter. Quite frankly find the man personally repulsive and wish he'd just kick the bucket honestly. Voted Gary Johnson in '16, reluctantly voted him in '20, initially supported DeSantis, then switched to Haley, now leaning RFK. Of course, my anger at this blatant abuse of law enforcement makes me tempted to vote Trump out of spite, but come November, my anger will likely subside and I'll vote RFK.

"You people" meaning resist lib hacks.

It's always funny when the people clinging hardest to his sinking ship claim to support somebody else - "finding him personally repulsive" makes your incessant trolling and whining in this thread even worse.