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[Good lord Putin got under you guys's skin with the election interference stuff which is about the only reason I can think of why you're being so intense about this]

Crimea+Donetsk+Luhansk going to Russia and Ukraine joining NATO (or some other defensive agreement that has teeth to ensure this doesn't happen again) is the absolute floor. Ideally of course, Russia leaving entirely and Ukraine joining NATO, but that seems unlikely.

One of the few serious posts here and about what I would say.

Good lord Putin got under you guys's skin with the election interference stuff which is about the only reason I can think of why you're being so intense about this. You wuss out in Afghanistan, want Israel to roll over and just let Hamas take over their country, but then you don't want Ukraine to give up one foot of land even if it means WWII casualties. Some of you are even talking about regime change in Russia which presumably means starting WWIII and invading and hoping it goes better than all the other times in history that's been tried.

As I've said before if this is what it looks like when you're on someone's side in a war than you clearly weren't on the US's side against the Taliban in Afghanistan.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucha_massacre Now kindly go f yourself

The US is factually not in a recession. Pointing this out is not being elitist nor is it "not listening to Americans". There's clearly a huge misunderstanding of what the word recession means coupled with a serious disinfo problem.

The thing is all of this doesn't really matter.

Because what matters is purchasing power and if people feel life goods are becoming more expensive and if the party in power ignores purchasing power of people (which also drives economy) than people will start to believe there is a recession, because well for them it is.

It also seems to differ from state to state whether there is a recession or not. Someone pointed out than the Sun Belt states are in a recession while the Midwestern states are less so.

Eventually some people will vote with their wallet and compare 2016-2020 to 2020-2024 and they'll eventually go with Trump because of that.

Good lord, the U.S. is not in a recession. We’re in a period of very strong economic growth. Moreover, wages have risen faster than inflation for a year and real wages are even higher than Trump’s term. 2020-2021 briefly inflated household budgets due to Covid stimulus payments but I doubt anybody wants to go back to that time.

What’s happening right now is that half the country is still whining about the economy to score political points and the media is running with it. I hope the Biden campaign absolutely floods the airwaves and social media with the truth, because right now we are witnessing a massive disinformation campaign in action.

The two main drivers behind Biden's low approvals are that people think he's too old and that he's to the left of 90% of the country. Bernie would not be doing any better

"Rednecks" by Randy Newman comes to mind.

You are all so f***ing insensitive!

The helicopter and its pilot didn't deserve this!

No the pilot was probably military and maybe even IRGC. Maybe his family can understand the pain fo hundreds of families across Iran that had their relatives executed with the help of the IRGC

https://twitter.com/jdiamond1/status/1792508517544243416?s=12

Israel officials themselves said out loud that Israel is committing genocide.

ICC was forced to do it.

The crime is so blazon that if ICC don't do it, the rest of the world can easily point out the laws don't apply to western countries and their allies.

Who officials?

[Yep, Merchan wants no break whatsoever between summations, jury instructions, & the start of deliberations.]

https://twitter.com/normeisen/status/1792541026155950267

Won't they just get to summation on Thursday then? Or you mean deliberations will be next week?

The reporters on Twitter say the judge said that they'll wrap up evidence this week and move to summation on Tuesday.  He probably doesn't want to have the holiday weekend to break up deliberations.

Yep, Merchan wants no break whatsoever between summations, jury instructions, & the start of deliberations.

That makes since. I was on a grand jury once and it was right around Labor Day and we were hearing a pretty major case and testimony had started on Friday, then we adjourned and returned Tuesday and everyone had to have their memories refreshed, which i'm sure was a pain for the prosecution.

[1.Wealthy whites don't have to send their kids to black schools because they can just move to places that don't have many black people. Most Christian school families aren't particularly wealthy, certainly not compared to those who go to secular private schools.An important confounder in all this discussion is that the era of school desegregation coincided to a large degree with the era of school secularization with ending things like teacher-led prayer in school, both results of the Warren Court. So you can't look at a private Christian school that starts in the South in the 60s or 70s and assume that reaction to civil rights must have been the motivatio]

This puts the debate over school vouchers in a whole new light for most of us here:

You mean because if there were school vouchers, these schools would be less white?  They aren't "segregation academies" if they have non-white students, as the article admits they do.

Most “Christian” schools in the south were founded by wealthy whites to keep their kids away from black.

1.Wealthy whites don't have to send their kids to black schools because they can just move to places that don't have many black people. Most Christian school families aren't particularly wealthy, certainly not compared to those who go to secular private schools.

An important confounder in all this discussion is that the era of school desegregation coincided to a large degree with the era of school secularization with ending things like teacher-led prayer in school, both results of the Warren Court. So you can't look at a private Christian school that starts in the South in the 60s or 70s and assume that reaction to civil rights must have been the motivation.

 At least for Catholics, many, not all, but many catholic prep schools do cater more to lower income people. So there's that option.

[continuation of the war and the impossible victory over Russia as the only possible solution,"]

Bulgarian President Radev now calls Ukrainian victory over Russia "impossible". Urges peace talks between both countries. In his words "political efforts for peace rather than weapons"

Details: Radev stated that the continuation of the war is catastrophic for all sides.

Quote: "Every day that this war continues is disastrous for Ukraine, Russia and all of us. This inevitably affects all elections – in Europe, in the USA, and everywhere in the world. We will choose in this and the next election between war and peace. Every citizen is obliged to understand this."

"It is unacceptable to present the continuation of the war and the impossible victory over Russia as the only possible solution," Radev noted.

He warned that if the war continues, Ukraine will become a "demographically devastated country, with completely destroyed infrastructure, industry, production, and this will have extremely serious consequences not only for Ukraine but also for the whole of Europe".

Radev called for political efforts for peace rather than weapons provision, "With weapons, without weapons – we are going to a similar outcome. We have to realise that. The difference will be thousands of human casualties and a devastated country (Ukraine) for which recovery we will have to pay" he pointed out, adding that "it is inevitable".

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/05/20/7456583/

https://twitter.com/normeisen/status/1792541026155950267

Won't they just get to summation on Thursday then? Or you mean deliberations will be next week?

The reporters on Twitter say the judge said that they'll wrap up evidence this week and move to summation on Tuesday.  He probably doesn't want to have the holiday weekend to break up deliberations.

Yep, Merchan wants no break whatsoever between summations, jury instructions, & the start of deliberations.