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« Reply #1500 on: April 14, 2020, 05:34:18 PM »

Trump announcing he is pulling all funding from WHO and will sanction research by them

South Korea took WHO guidelines and technical expertise and has had much better results than The United States. There should be a review of what WHO did and where they failed as an oversight matter but they're not the reason that Trump bungled the response to Covid-19.
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« Reply #1501 on: April 14, 2020, 05:52:51 PM »

Can blue avatars pick a story?

 One day it's "China lied, they're numbers are awful and way more people died."

 The next day it's "Covid-19 is a hoax and it's all overblown..."

Maybe not every blue avatar has the same exact thoughts?  And, maybe it can be true both that China lied and that the panic and shutdowns are overreactions?

Imagine actually believing that, because measures worked at slowing the problem, that those measures were unnecessary. It's like getting a flu shot and then saying that because you didn't get the flu the shot was pointless.

And if anything we as a country under-reacted because all of these precautions should've been enacted weeks to months earlier and they would've been close to over by now.
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« Reply #1502 on: April 14, 2020, 05:56:05 PM »

We shouldn't fund WHO Until Taiwan is part of it.
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« Reply #1503 on: April 14, 2020, 05:57:45 PM »

Very premature to say 'The worst is over!'
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« Reply #1504 on: April 14, 2020, 05:59:46 PM »

Did he give a reason? Well...other than a generic Trump platitude like "they're bad".
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« Reply #1505 on: April 14, 2020, 06:01:59 PM »

Did he give a reason? Well...other than a generic Trump platitude like "they're bad".

He said they withheld vital information that could have prevented the crisis in the U.S and that they gave Governors false info that resulted in them wanting more ventilators and PPE
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« Reply #1506 on: April 14, 2020, 06:04:38 PM »



Read the titles from left to right.
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« Reply #1507 on: April 14, 2020, 06:11:21 PM »

Did he give a reason? Well...other than a generic Trump platitude like "they're bad".

He said they withheld vital information that could have prevented the crisis in the U.S and that they gave Governors false info that resulted in them wanting more ventilators and PPE

Trump also gave false info by calling coronavirus no worse than the flu and by promoting hydroxychloroquine as a medicine against it. He should defund himself first.
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« Reply #1508 on: April 14, 2020, 06:11:48 PM »

Coronavirus is this generation’s WMD.

Fear mongering hysteria, built on faulty intelligence. History will not be kind to the overreaction and all the tragedy brought on by the sharp economic downturn.

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You won’t feel so dismissive when the fallout from this cripples your generation for the next decade.
We wouldn’t have had the fallout had a certain president taken this threat seriously by ramping up testing production and PPE production, banning travel to Europe (in late February) and by publicly pressuring governors in States with 500+ cases to issue stay-at-home orders for two weeks.
If all that had been done when the evil “alarmists” said to, we would likely be at 100-200 new cases per day and parts of the country would have opened up.
The grave was dug months ago, now we can either decide whether to dig it deeper or try to get rid of this as quick as possible.
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« Reply #1509 on: April 14, 2020, 06:25:07 PM »

Trump announcing he is pulling all funding from WHO and will sanction research by them

Broken clock is right twice a day. This is an FF move.
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« Reply #1510 on: April 14, 2020, 06:34:23 PM »

Did he give a reason? Well...other than a generic Trump platitude like "they're bad".

He said they withheld vital information that could have prevented the crisis in the U.S and that they gave Governors false info that resulted in them wanting more ventilators and PPE

He's such a disingenuous piece of s***.
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« Reply #1511 on: April 14, 2020, 07:29:37 PM »

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« Reply #1512 on: April 14, 2020, 07:34:52 PM »

This website is good if you want a live counter of cases/recoveries/deaths in pertaining to COVID-19 in the us and around the world I selected the U.S link cause most of us in this thread are American

https://corona-scanner.com/country/united-states-of-america
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« Reply #1513 on: April 14, 2020, 08:02:49 PM »

How are today's new case rates looking.
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« Reply #1514 on: April 14, 2020, 08:07:20 PM »



Of course his first name is "Trey".
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« Reply #1515 on: April 14, 2020, 08:07:53 PM »

My state, Georgia, isn’t projected to peak until May 1 (as of now) with a total death projection nearing 4000.

Meanwhile California, which far surpasses us population wise, is only projected to have something around 1500 deaths total.

Why such a far discrepancy considering the population differences?

I certainly believe that the individual responses of the state governors is a major factor in this. I don't like Gavin Newsom, but he has run a strong response to the pandemic in California, while Brian Kemp is ignorant and deferred on taking action.

That doesn't explain anything.  Tennessee wasn't super fast in shutting down, and the UW model only projects 481 deaths and a peak of less than 10% of hospital capacity.  For every example supporting that story, you can find one that doesn't support it.

I've underlined the critical sentence of my post in response to this. I did not try to claim that this was the only factor at play, but it is a factor. And for the record, Kentucky to your north responded much more quickly and effectively to this outbreak, and hence has a better trajectory in terms of cases. And there are many examples of where such decisive action might have curtailed the pandemic's spread, such as in Florida, which has been noted numerous times on here.

Kentucky has a higher death rate, it is not clear that it has a better trajectory for cases on a per capita basis. Tennessee has almost double the testing rate.
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« Reply #1516 on: April 14, 2020, 08:19:28 PM »

How are today's new case rates looking.

Nationwide, about the same as yesterday and the day before.
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« Reply #1517 on: April 14, 2020, 08:22:38 PM »
« Edited: April 14, 2020, 08:28:00 PM by Arch »

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 4/14 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

Δ Change: Day-by-day Growth or Decline or COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.
  • IE: Are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.
  • IE: What's the overall change in the total?

<Last Numbers for 3/26-3/28 in this Post>
<Last Numbers for 3/29-4/4 in this Post>

4/5: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 336,327 (+24,970 | Δ Change: ↓27.40% | Σ Increase: ↑8.02%)
  • Deaths: 9,605 (+1,153 | Δ Change: ↑8.67% | Σ Increase: ↑13.64%)

4/6:
  • Cases: 366,112 (+29,785 | Δ Change: ↑19.28% | Σ Increase: ↑8.86%)
  • Deaths: 10,859 (+1,254 | Δ Change: ↑8.76% | Σ Increase: ↑13.06%)

4/7:
  • Cases: 399,937 (+33,825 | Δ Change: ↑13.56% | Σ Increase: ↑13.56%)
  • Deaths: 12,813 (+1,954 | Δ Change: ↑55.82% | Σ Increase: ↑9.02%)

4/8:
  • Cases: 434,698 (+34,761 | Δ Change: ↑2.77% | Σ Increase: ↑8.69%)
  • Deaths: 14,787 (+1,974 | Δ Change: ↑1.02% | Σ Increase: ↑15.41%)

4/9:
  • Cases: 468,566 (+33,868 | Δ Change: ↓2.57% | Σ Increase: ↑7.79%)
  • Deaths: 16,691 (+1,904 | Δ Change: ↓3.55% | Σ Increase: ↑12.88%)

4/10:
  • Cases: 502,318 (+33,752 | Δ Change: ↓0.34% | Σ Increase: ↑7.20%)
  • Deaths: 18,725 (+2,034 | Δ Change: ↑6.83% | Σ Increase: ↑12.19%)

4/11:
  • Cases: 532,879 (+30,561 | Δ Change: ↓9.45% | Σ Increase: ↑6.08%)
  • Deaths: 20,577 (+1,852 | Δ Change: ↓8.95% | Σ Increase: ↑9.89%)

4/12: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 560,323 (+27,444 | Δ Change: ↓10.20% | Σ Increase: ↑5.15%)
  • Deaths: 22,108 (+1,531 | Δ Change: ↓17.33% | Σ Increase: ↑7.44%)

4/13 (Yesterday):
  • Cases: 586,941 (+26,618 | Δ Change: ↓3.01% | Σ Increase: ↑4.75%)
  • Deaths: 23,640 (+1,532 | Δ Change: ↑0.07% | Σ Increase: ↑6.93%)

4/14 (Today):
  • Cases: 613,886 (+26,945 | Δ Change: ↑1.23% | Σ Increase: ↑4.59%)
  • Deaths: 26,047 (+2,407 | Δ Change: ↑57.11% | Σ Increase: ↑10.18%)
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« Reply #1518 on: April 14, 2020, 08:25:44 PM »

This website is good if you want a live counter of cases/recoveries/deaths in pertaining to COVID-19 in the us and around the world I selected the U.S link cause most of us in this thread are American

https://corona-scanner.com/country/united-states-of-america

I predicted weeks ago that new cases would peak on April 9. According to this site, it did. On Worldometers, they peaked on April 4 though.
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« Reply #1519 on: April 14, 2020, 08:55:01 PM »

The ice age is coming, the sun's zoomin' in
Engines stop running, the wheat is growin' thin
A nuclear error, but I have no fear
Cause the World is drowning, I, I live by the river

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« Reply #1520 on: April 14, 2020, 08:59:13 PM »



I really hope that this pandemic wakes Americans up to the recklessness and dangers of the anti-science Trump Republican Party... but that's just wishful thinking.
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« Reply #1521 on: April 14, 2020, 09:05:47 PM »



I didn’t read the article but this stuff is stupid. Of course policymakers need to run cost benefit analysis
 Sorry the world is brutal kid....
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« Reply #1522 on: April 14, 2020, 09:16:59 PM »
« Edited: April 14, 2020, 09:20:01 PM by Southern Speaker Punxsutawney Phil »


The GOP doesn't realize that letting the economy crater will only increase coronavirus-related deaths due to government being overwhelmed.
The Democratic party doesn't realize that letting the economy crater will only increase coronavirus-related deaths due to government being overwhelmed.
Thank you partisan polarization.
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« Reply #1523 on: April 14, 2020, 09:23:39 PM »

It’s reactions like this as to why there are downplayers of climate change. Prediction after prediction wrong. It’s hard to make sensible policy decisions when models continue to be wrong.
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« Reply #1524 on: April 14, 2020, 09:27:38 PM »

Any politician that acts like this is no big deal, things we should put money over lives, and wants to act in policy based on this, should volunteer if they're so confident to become infected with the virus. Otherwise they need to shut the hell up with this garbage.
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