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 on: Today at 06:37:34 PM 
Started by TheReckoning - Last post by Neo-Malthusian Misanthrope
Yes, but that doesn't mean they should. Though in retrospect, they really should have sent in the Mossad to clandestinely take out Hamas' leadership before doing anything in Gaza.

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 on: Today at 06:36:46 PM 
Started by Harry Hayfield - Last post by KaiserDave
Tory vs Labour frontbench in rugby, who wins?

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 on: Today at 06:36:40 PM 
Started by Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers - Last post by Bush did 311
Stein kicked his campaign off by proposing tax cuts and Republicans are still gonna say he's too liberal, which is hysterical at this point. The guy's a center-right NC democrat similar to Cooper or Easley. Nobody's gonna care about his policies anyway. A dem governor's job in NC is to veto things. There's little else they can expect to ever do.

Until they get the numbers in the major cities to push for more, they will continue fielding a certain type of moderate that can win enough libertarian ticket splitters to top off their numbers to hold the governorship and prevent the state from turning into Honduras... as they have done.



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 on: Today at 06:33:58 PM 
Started by Big Abraham - Last post by Schiff for Senate
Used to consider him an FF, recently the anti-Biden concern trolling has turned him into an HP. Still definitely enough time/potential for him to revert to an FF in my book, though.

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 on: Today at 06:32:44 PM 
Started by President Punxsutawney Phil - Last post by Schiff for Senate
Quite alright. I prefer the regular kind, but pineapple on pizza isn't inherently objectionable.

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 on: Today at 06:32:23 PM 
Started by Harry Hayfield - Last post by Pouring Rain and Blairing Music
Triple lock, quadruple lock, what next, is Ref-UK going to call a proposed 5G ban “quintuple lock”?

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 on: Today at 06:31:46 PM 
Started by Hnv1 - Last post by pppolitics


That’s horrible, no ifs, ands, or buts.  It’s objectively not genocide, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a horrific act.  And you can’t even argue that Israel was targeting such high-ranking Hamas officials that it was worth the risk or whatever.  These were not top guys.  This strike never should’ve been launched.

According to the Palestine Red Crescent Society, the area hit is a designated "safe zone".

This isn't the first time that Israel has hit a "safe zone" either.

Time to reconsider the "objectively not genocide" part.

That’s not genocide.  A war crime?  Quite possibly, but not genocide.  Words have meaning.

Maybe you think that I looked up "genocide" in a dictionary and using the term willy-nilly.

That is not the case.

When I talking about "genocide", I am using the term as defined in the Genocide Convention.

And I am going by the definition established by the Genocide Convention as well.  The difference is you’re using it in a wildly inaccurate manner.  Whether you’re doing so deliberately or due to genuine ignorance is not for me to say, but by that definition, Israel’s actions are clearly not genocide.  It isn’t even a close call.

We both know that the ICC bring charges against individuals not against countries, but it's not much of a stretch that the charges against Netanyahu and Gallant also applies to Israel.

Let's look at these charges.

  • Starvation of civilians as a method of warfare as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(b)(xxv) of the Statute;
  • Wilfully causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or health contrary to article 8(2)(a)(iii), or cruel treatment as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i);
  • Wilful killing contrary to article 8(2)(a)(i), or Murder as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i);
  • Intentionally directing attacks against a civilian population as a war crime contrary to articles 8(2)(b)(i), or 8(2)(e)(i);
  • Extermination and/or murder contrary to articles 7(1)(b) and 7(1)(a), including in the context of deaths caused by starvation, as a crime against humanity;
  • Persecution as a crime against humanity contrary to article 7(1)(h);
  • Other inhumane acts as crimes against humanity contrary to article 7(1)(k).

Do they not sound a whole lot like genocide to you?

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In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:  

(a) Killing members of the group;  

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;  

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;  

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;  

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

The only ones of those I think you could make a serious argument are occurring are starvation of civilians as a method of war as a war crime and deaths caused by such as a crime against humanity.  What I have yet to see is compelling hard evidence that this is the result of a deliberate, willful policy sanctioned by Netanyahu and Gallant.  I have not yet seen such evidence, but if such comes out (and again, I’m talking compelling, hard evidence not some rando on Twitter or at an NGO saying “there is a famine, this must be deliberate; looks like genocide to me!”) then this would be a very different conversation.  If such evidence emerges then I will adjust my views accordingly and I think that’s perfectly reasonable.

Let look at what Netanyahu and Gallant themselves have said.

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“you must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. And we do remember”
- Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

Netanyahu was referring to the genocide of the Amalekites at the hands of the Israelites.

IDF soldiers heard the message from Netanyahu loud and clear.

They were coming to Gaza to "wipe out the seed of Amalek" and there are no "uninvolved civilians".



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“[Israel is] imposing a complete siege on Gaza. No electricity, no food, no water, no fuel. Everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.”
- Defence Minister Yoav Gallant

This one is self-evident. Nothing was left for interpretation.

 8 
 on: Today at 06:29:24 PM 
Started by wnwnwn - Last post by Schiff for Senate
Surprisingly enough (to me at least), it's quite easy to draw a 3-2 map in Iowa using an equal number of Trump votes: https://davesredistricting.org/join/c9cade30-88c5-4127-84ef-93416abf1f4a.

I know the 1st is only marginally Democratic, but if needed it could easily be shored up by figuring out a way to replace Dallas with Story.

 9 
 on: Today at 06:28:18 PM 
Started by PSOL - Last post by Neo-Malthusian Misanthrope
Am I crazy or is there an outside chance for this guy to appeal to dejected and disaffected college kids off the back of his whole "gay, anti-war, pro-immigration" thing?

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 on: Today at 06:28:03 PM 
Started by MT Treasurer - Last post by Shaula🏳️‍⚧️
An intern pulled a prank on him, something the intern admitted to, and the creator of the site confirmed was backed up by metadata.

This explanation was debunked.  I’m not saying Moreno is gay, bisexual, etc; there are any number of reasons a person might lie about this (could be he was curious and just looking around on a whim, who knows), but it wasn’t just an intern pranking him.  That explanation is pretty clearly a cover up and has been debunked iirc.
Link to it being debunked? I follow this stuff closely and I haven't heard of that, so I'd like to see a source on that if it was debunked.
The intern story makes complete sense and the guy who did it even admitted to it. I tried searching up for any evidence of it being debunked and I found nothing.

In fact the AP report on it was partly debunked, as the literal founder of the site provided internal site information that debunks AP's claim of events.


I trust the AP far more than this dude
"This dude"
The literal creator of the website in question, who has access to internal site data?

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