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 on: Today at 12:55:37 PM 
Started by iceman - Last post by vtred
Because we keep letting people in from Staten Island...

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 on: Today at 12:51:38 PM 
Started by NewYorkExpress - Last post by I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
> I feel bad for the PRD, it could had become a moderate centre left party for social liberals

I mean, do you have any reason to believe there is any demand for a party like this in Mexico?

There is but is covered by MORENA. I don't know why everyone acts like they are actually socially conservative when they have pushed for abortion rights and Sheinbaum is an outspoken LGBT+ and feminist advocate. As I mentioned even PVEM has gone "woke" to go along with the ride.

The actual space to be covered would be a "anti populist center left" and even that kind of party could have a decent niche if they were not allied with PRI/PAN.
Because in 2018 AMLO's coalition included a Christian conservative party: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Encounter_Party

AMLO is still pretty awful regardless, especially with him bizarrely being one of the most Trump-friendly world leaders in addition to his PRI stylings, and Gálvez actually doesn't sound too bad at all and is barely "center-right". Shame this election is a foregone conclusion.

I get that you don't know anything about Mexican politics outside hating AMLO but I find very funny that you are still up in arms about an empty shell of a party that had no influence whatsoever and no longer even exists but you have no problem supporting PAN, the actual ultra conservative party

https://tribunadequeretaro.com/informacion/aborto-queretaro-se-hunde-en-un-limbo-juridico-por-conservadurismo-del-pan/
https://www.sdpnoticias.com/mexico/pan-quiere-prohibir-la-venta-de-misoprostol-usado-para-el-aborto/
https://aristeguinoticias.com/0305/mexico/pan-bloquea-el-matrimonio-igualitario-en-tamaulipas/

You might notice that the ones pushing for the socially liberal stuff blocked by PAN are... MORENA deputies.

I'm any case, if you like Galves more power to you, because not even PAN own voters like her.
Gálvez is pro-choice, pro-LGBT, pro-marijuana legalization and generally pro-social welfare, definitely not as conservative as the rest of the PAN (is that why their voters don't like her? Makes sense.) Also in 2021 PAN's coalition partner included the PRD, more like supporting Gálvez who is not like those conservative PAN deputies and actually part of a broad coalition.

And not sure why one would be surprised over me hating AMLO considering how much of a Trump lover he is.

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 on: Today at 12:47:35 PM 
Started by WV222 - Last post by Chancellor Tanterterg
Let me give another example of something done on purpose that will backfire on the defense: the list of ten reasons for doubt. It's snappy, it's quick, it probably came from Trump himself -- but all they've done is give the prosecution ten memorable items to easily shoot down.

The prosecution is not going to be able to shoot the GLOAT reference down.
You are massively projecting your own biases onto this dude

Yeah, even in the unlikely event that Trump does get acquitted, it won’t be because of that really dumb “GLOAT” line.  Speaking as a defense attorney - I.e. someone who actually does this for a living - the defense’s closing argument was pretty unimpressive.  It wasn’t awful, but it was a wasted opportunity and is unlikely to change anyone’s mind.  The curative instruction could definitely backfire on the defense though.  Screwing up your closing statement badly enough that the judge needs to issue curative instructions is not a good ending note.

GLOAT is the kind of cute thing that probably won't stick for more than five seconds because of how hyperbolic it is. A real pound-the-table move.

Ehhh, zingers have their place in closing, but they have to articulate and encapsulate a feeling that is already there.  There are plenty of things you can say about Cohen and he’s clearly a sleazy lowlife crook, but he came across as very forthright and truthful in his testimony.  He didn’t shy away from fully acknowledging his own misdeeds either.  As such, I don’t think the “Michael Cohen is a liar; you can’t trust his testimony” attack will stick even though I suspect most of the jurors consider him a sleazy crook who’d steal from anybody if given half a chance (although obviously none of us knows).  

If Cohen got caught lying to the jurors or had tried to minimize his own misconduct, then I think that might be more effective.  As it stands though, I don’t think it speaks to an underlying truth about how Cohen’s testimony came across.

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 on: Today at 12:46:31 PM 
Started by Meclazine for Israel - Last post by GAinDC
Are the blue avatars getting nervous about a possible Trump conviction this week? Nearly every poll says Trump will lose support if convicted.

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 on: Today at 12:42:47 PM 
Started by NewYorkExpress - Last post by kaoras
> I feel bad for the PRD, it could had become a moderate centre left party for social liberals

I mean, do you have any reason to believe there is any demand for a party like this in Mexico?

There is but is covered by MORENA. I don't know why everyone acts like they are actually socially conservative when they have pushed for abortion rights and Sheinbaum is an outspoken LGBT+ and feminist advocate. As I mentioned even PVEM has gone "woke" to go along with the ride.

The actual space to be covered would be a "anti populist center left" and even that kind of party could have a decent niche if they were not allied with PRI/PAN.
Because in 2018 AMLO's coalition included a Christian conservative party: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Encounter_Party

AMLO is still pretty awful regardless, especially with him bizarrely being one of the most Trump-friendly world leaders in addition to his PRI stylings, and Gálvez actually doesn't sound too bad at all and is barely "center-right". Shame this election is a foregone conclusion.

I get that you don't know anything about Mexican politics outside hating AMLO but I find very funny that you are still up in arms about an empty shell of a party that had no influence whatsoever and no longer even exists but you have no problem supporting PAN, the actual ultra conservative party

https://tribunadequeretaro.com/informacion/aborto-queretaro-se-hunde-en-un-limbo-juridico-por-conservadurismo-del-pan/
https://www.sdpnoticias.com/mexico/pan-quiere-prohibir-la-venta-de-misoprostol-usado-para-el-aborto/
https://aristeguinoticias.com/0305/mexico/pan-bloquea-el-matrimonio-igualitario-en-tamaulipas/

You might notice that the ones pushing for the socially liberal stuff blocked by PAN are... MORENA deputies.

I'm any case, if you like Galves more power to you, because not even PAN own voters like her.

 6 
 on: Today at 12:42:39 PM 
Started by WV222 - Last post by soundchaser
GLOAT is the kind of cute thing that probably won't stick for more than five seconds because of how hyperbolic it is. A real pound-the-table move.

 7 
 on: Today at 12:42:33 PM 
Started by Meclazine for Israel - Last post by Steve from Lambeth
If Laki is trying to convince me to be like SL or Millineal moderate two trolls he is wasting his time

Idk who Millennial Moderate is.

I think SL has a few ridicilous takes, but it's not banworthy and it's totally harmless, just like your very optimistic view about the D chances is also harmless. You've never been agressive to another user, nor has Snowlabrador ever been agressive to anyone else.

And at the end I believe SL has been closer to the truth, even if it might be for the same reasons Trafalgar ended up being the most accurate pollster in 2016.

If a few ridicilous takes is banworthy, half the forum should be banned. If it's an issue, just use the ignore user option..

I'm not asking you to be like SL, i'm just saying my opinion on where the race stands now and that happens to be closer to SL's view than your view.


And we have to wait when the votes are counted because I'm 22 we saw Trafalgar polls have an R bias, polls aren't 100% accurate

Ds overperform the polls Trafalgar had Lake, Oz winning and that was wrong, don't give me that we weren't voting for Biden garbage Rs still lost
We knew that Trafalgar polls were biased towards the Republicans long before 2022. They do a fair bit of horse-race polling on their own initiative. But every single piece of issue polling they do is conducted on behalf of Convention of States Action, a nonpartisan but heavily conservative group. You don't see anybody else asking Trafalgar to poll any issue - just Convention of States Action.

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 on: Today at 12:41:19 PM 
Started by WV222 - Last post by Hindsight was 2020
Let me give another example of something done on purpose that will backfire on the defense: the list of ten reasons for doubt. It's snappy, it's quick, it probably came from Trump himself -- but all they've done is give the prosecution ten memorable items to easily shoot down.

The prosecution is not going to be able to shoot the GLOAT reference down.
You are massively projecting your own biases onto this dude

 9 
 on: Today at 12:40:27 PM 
Started by WV222 - Last post by Ljube
Let me give another example of something done on purpose that will backfire on the defense: the list of ten reasons for doubt. It's snappy, it's quick, it probably came from Trump himself -- but all they've done is give the prosecution ten memorable items to easily shoot down.

The prosecution is not going to be able to shoot the GLOAT reference down.

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 on: Today at 12:40:12 PM 
Started by Obama24 - Last post by Rubensim
I'm fine as long as you add trump face or nuke Portland and San francisco.

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