The Examiner: Election Tracker

[Scam of God]

Um, you are aware that the RPP and ARC candidates have received pretty much the same number of votes, right?

Yes, I'm just sick that somebody as respectable as AHDuke is coming to DWTL's defense this strongly. He would be much better served with us.
But this trend is going to continue, the end of the RPP, if they keep on stomaching characters like DWTL, RowanBrandon, Yankee, and others like them.

The RPP is done with. It has been for quite some time. The question is not whether the RPP can return to strength, but what structure will replace it. Will the ARC absorb the bulk of its membership, with residuals in the LNF and DA? Will a new Atlasian right emerge?

Should be interesting over the next few months.

The ARC hasn't room for many of them. We'll happy take its libertarian wing; its populist/social con wing ought to form its own Party and see if it can't peel off some of the socially conservative members of the JCP.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Wait, who won?

Mint, Badger, Duke and probably Fritz and Afleitch.

[Rowan]

Um, you are aware that the RPP and ARC candidates have received pretty much the same number of votes, right?

Yes, I'm just sick that somebody as respectable as AHDuke is coming to DWTL's defense this strongly. He would be much better served with us.
But this trend is going to continue, the end of the RPP, if they keep on stomaching characters like DWTL, RowanBrandon, Yankee, and others like them.

The RPP is done with. It has been for quite some time. The question is not whether the RPP can return to strength, but what structure will replace it. Will the ARC absorb the bulk of its membership, with residuals in the LNF and DA? Will a new Atlasian right emerge?

Should be interesting over the next few months.

Having two Senators means we're done with? That's a bit of a stretch.

[Purple State]

Um, you are aware that the RPP and ARC candidates have received pretty much the same number of votes, right?

Yes, I'm just sick that somebody as respectable as AHDuke is coming to DWTL's defense this strongly. He would be much better served with us.
But this trend is going to continue, the end of the RPP, if they keep on stomaching characters like DWTL, RowanBrandon, Yankee, and others like them.

The RPP is done with. It has been for quite some time. The question is not whether the RPP can return to strength, but what structure will replace it. Will the ARC absorb the bulk of its membership, with residuals in the LNF and DA? Will a new Atlasian right emerge?

Should be interesting over the next few months.

The ARC hasn't room for many of them. We'll happy take its libertarian wing; its populist/social con wing ought to form its own Party and see if it can't steal some of the socially conservative members of the JCP.

It would be a new structural dynamic (for me, not necessarily for the game) to have one big party and a number of smaller "niche" parties. If that is the "revelation" you have been promising, it would be an interesting development. At the same time, this doesn't actually change the way the game is played. The JCP will remain dominant and the smaller parties will likely compete to either create broad alliances or align with the JCP.

This seems like a net loss for what I have broadly defined as the Atlasian right (conservatives, libertarians, etc.), which had been a powerful, if poorly run, force in opposing the JCP when under the umbrella of the RPP.

Of course, just looking at the forum PM scores (and Atlasian PM scores), the right is more broadly dispersed along the social axis than is the left, making any sort of Atlasian right bloc ideologically difficult. Hence our current situation.

[Vepres]

Um, you are aware that the RPP and ARC candidates have received pretty much the same number of votes, right?

Yes, I'm just sick that somebody as respectable as AHDuke is coming to DWTL's defense this strongly. He would be much better served with us.
But this trend is going to continue, the end of the RPP, if they keep on stomaching characters like DWTL, RowanBrandon, Yankee, and others like them.

The RPP is done with. It has been for quite some time. The question is not whether the RPP can return to strength, but what structure will replace it. Will the ARC absorb the bulk of its membership, with residuals in the LNF and DA? Will a new Atlasian right emerge?

Should be interesting over the next few months.

Many in the RPP will not join the ARC under any circumstances.

[Scam of God]

Um, you are aware that the RPP and ARC candidates have received pretty much the same number of votes, right?

Yes, I'm just sick that somebody as respectable as AHDuke is coming to DWTL's defense this strongly. He would be much better served with us.
But this trend is going to continue, the end of the RPP, if they keep on stomaching characters like DWTL, RowanBrandon, Yankee, and others like them.

The RPP is done with. It has been for quite some time. The question is not whether the RPP can return to strength, but what structure will replace it. Will the ARC absorb the bulk of its membership, with residuals in the LNF and DA? Will a new Atlasian right emerge?

Should be interesting over the next few months.

Many in the RPP will not join the ARC under any circumstances.

Then let them start a populist Party.

[Mechaman]

Um, you are aware that the RPP and ARC candidates have received pretty much the same number of votes, right?

Yes, I'm just sick that somebody as respectable as AHDuke is coming to DWTL's defense this strongly. He would be much better served with us.
But this trend is going to continue, the end of the RPP, if they keep on stomaching characters like DWTL, RowanBrandon, Yankee, and others like them.

The RPP is done with. It has been for quite some time. The question is not whether the RPP can return to strength, but what structure will replace it. Will the ARC absorb the bulk of its membership, with residuals in the LNF and DA? Will a new Atlasian right emerge?

Should be interesting over the next few months.

Many in the RPP will not join the ARC under any circumstances.

Then let them start a populist Party.

Yeah, like we should be so scared of them, they would only be a threat to our growing revolution: WE DON'T WANT THEM AND WE DON'T NEED THEM!!!!

[Хahar 🤔]

Um, you are aware that the RPP and ARC candidates have received pretty much the same number of votes, right?

Yes, I'm just sick that somebody as respectable as AHDuke is coming to DWTL's defense this strongly. He would be much better served with us.
But this trend is going to continue, the end of the RPP, if they keep on stomaching characters like DWTL, RowanBrandon, Yankee, and others like them.

The RPP is done with. It has been for quite some time. The question is not whether the RPP can return to strength, but what structure will replace it. Will the ARC absorb the bulk of its membership, with residuals in the LNF and DA? Will a new Atlasian right emerge?

Should be interesting over the next few months.

Many in the RPP will not join the ARC under any circumstances.

Many in the SDP will not join the JCP under any circumstances.

[Scam of God]

Um, you are aware that the RPP and ARC candidates have received pretty much the same number of votes, right?

Yes, I'm just sick that somebody as respectable as AHDuke is coming to DWTL's defense this strongly. He would be much better served with us.
But this trend is going to continue, the end of the RPP, if they keep on stomaching characters like DWTL, RowanBrandon, Yankee, and others like them.

The RPP is done with. It has been for quite some time. The question is not whether the RPP can return to strength, but what structure will replace it. Will the ARC absorb the bulk of its membership, with residuals in the LNF and DA? Will a new Atlasian right emerge?

Should be interesting over the next few months.

Many in the RPP will not join the ARC under any circumstances.

Then let them start a populist Party.

Yeah, like we should be so scared of them, they would only be a threat to our growing revolution: WE DON'T WANT THEM AND WE DON'T NEED THEM!!!!

To the contrary: we absolutely do need them - in a populist Party. That way they no longer have the incentive to join the ARC, and, by doing so, water down our libertarianism with their conservative-populist ideas. Moreover, it would weaken the JCP the most.

[Lief 🗽]

There are what... like three social conservatives in the entire JCP? If anything, there are some (rather small) divisions with regards to economic policy, but we're pretty much united in our support for liberal social policy.

[Scam of God]

There are what... like three social conservatives in the entire JCP?

If one includes the populist wing of the DA, there are at least seven.

[HappyWarrior]

There are what... like three social conservatives in the entire JCP?

If one includes the populist wing of the DA, there are at least seven.

JCP and DA are two entirely different things.

[Scam of God]

There are what... like three social conservatives in the entire JCP?

If one includes the populist wing of the DA, there are at least seven.

JCP and DA are two entirely different things.

Not really. At the very least it would weaken the JCP by proxy.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Um, you are aware that the RPP and ARC candidates have received pretty much the same number of votes, right?

Yes, I'm just sick that somebody as respectable as AHDuke is coming to DWTL's defense this strongly. He would be much better served with us.
But this trend is going to continue, the end of the RPP, if they keep on stomaching characters like DWTL, RowanBrandon, Yankee, and others like them.

Why would I be much better served with the ARC? The leader/founder of your party has constantly tried to tear me down, slandered my politics (saying I had the worst politics on the forum, I believe were his words), and has been pretty unprofessional all together. I also have some doubts about the practices the ARC uses to get people elected. Your message is actually pretty decent, one I can relate to, but I can't put that above some of the other things I have seen. If I am misunderstanding, feel free to clarify.

My philosophy has always been, and will continue to be, friends over politics. I'm probably the most liberal member left in the RPP, and I have some disagreements with many of the members, but I know, at the end of the day, I can trust NC Yankee, Brandon, Jedi, PiT, DWTL, and the like, guys I've worked with and known for more than a year, and I know I won't get backstabbed from them (well, in most cases). There are also many in the DA which I feel the same way, even though we've had our frustrations and disagreements in the past. Ultimately, if the RPP does dissolve entirely, that will be the #1 thing I look at when I look for a new party. Ideology does matter (I wouldn't fit in at all with the JCP), but it's not the only thing.

[Scam of God]

Since when was Hamilton our "leader"?

[Vepres]

Election Update

Here's a quick first round update.

Last Voter: ilikeverin
Total Votes: 88
Quota: 15

Count 1

Mint (ARC)	19.00	(cutie_15, Hamilton, segwaystyle2012, Lahbas, Winston Disraeli, Mechaman, Einzige, Earth, azmagic, Dallasfan65, ajc0918, Libertas, Mint, jamespol, FallenMorgan, rebeltarian, phknrocket1k, Sam Spade, Elvis Republican)
Badger (JCP)	16.00	(jokerman, Snowguy716, Rob, kalwejt, opebo, Sensei, benconstine, Mart, CultureKing, realisticidealist, gporter, bullmoose88, nclib, Ogre Mage, KyleGordon2016, Smash255)
AHDuke99 (RPP)	13.00	(NiK, JBrase, Torie, fezzyfestoon, dead0man, BigBadFab, nickjbor, Ronnie, cinyc, North Carolina Yankee, BrandonH, DWTL, AHDuke99, )
Fritz (JCP)	10.00	(Fritz, BRTD, Boris, Ebowed, Lief, Franken, xavier110, Marokai Blue, Eraserhead, bgwah,)
afleitch (DA)	10.00	(Franzl, Swedish Cheese, Tmthforu94, xfactor99, Deldem, Frodo, AndrewCT, John Dibble, Gustaf, afleitch)
Barnes (DA)	6.00	(Barnes, HappyWarrior, Antonio V, italian-boy, Hashemite, Purple State)
Sewer Socialist (LNF)	4.00	(Dr. Cynic, EarlAW, Sewer Socialist, sbane)
Jas (LNF)	4.00	(Lewis Trondheim, Senator Conor Flynn, Al, ilikeverin)
Vepres (Ind)	3.00	(Vepres, A-Bob, MagneticFree)
DWTL (RPP)	2.00	(Inks.LWC, Daniel Adams)
Al (LNF)	1.00	(silent_spade07)

[Хahar 🤔]

Conor, not Conner.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Election Update

Here's a quick first round update.

Last Voter: ilikeverin
Total Votes: 88
Quota: 15

Count 1

Mint (ARC)	19.00	(cutie_15, Hamilton, segwaystyle2012, Lahbas, Winston Disraeli, Mechaman, Einzige, Earth, azmagic, Dallasfan65, ajc0918, Libertas, Mint, jamespol, FallenMorgan, rebeltarian, phknrocket1k, Sam Spade, Elvis Republican)
Badger (JCP)	16.00	(jokerman, Snowguy716, Rob, kalwejt, opebo, Sensei, benconstine, Mart, CultureKing, realisticidealist, gporter, bullmoose88, nclib, Ogre Mage, KyleGordon2016, Smash255)
AHDuke99 (RPP)	13.00	(NiK, JBrase, Torie, fezzyfestoon, dead0man, BigBadFab, nickjbor, Ronnie, cinyc, North Carolina Yankee, BrandonH, DWTL, North Carolina Yankee, )
Fritz (JCP)	10.00	(Fritz, BRTD, Boris, Ebowed, Lief, Franken, xavier110, Marokai Blue, Eraserhead, bgwah,)
afleitch (DA)	10.00	(Franzl, Swedish Cheese, Tmthforu94, xfactor99, Deldem, Frodo, AndrewCT, John Dibble, Gustaf, afleitch)
Barnes (DA)	6.00	(Barnes, HappyWarrior, Antonio V, italian-boy, Hashemite, Purple State)
Sewer Socialist (LNF)	4.00	(Dr. Cynic, EarlAW, Sewer Socialist, sbane)
Jas (LNF)	4.00	(Lewis Trondheim, Senator Conor Flynn, Al, ilikeverin)
Vepres (Ind)	3.00	(Vepres, A-Bob, MagneticFree)
DWTL (RPP)	2.00	(Inks.LWC, Daniel Adams)
Al (LNF)	1.00	(silent_spade07)

You have me listed twice.

[Vepres]

Election Update

Here's a quick first round update.

Last Voter: ilikeverin
Total Votes: 88
Quota: 15

Count 1

Mint (ARC)	19.00	(cutie_15, Hamilton, segwaystyle2012, Lahbas, Winston Disraeli, Mechaman, Einzige, Earth, azmagic, Dallasfan65, ajc0918, Libertas, Mint, jamespol, FallenMorgan, rebeltarian, phknrocket1k, Sam Spade, Elvis Republican)
Badger (JCP)	16.00	(jokerman, Snowguy716, Rob, kalwejt, opebo, Sensei, benconstine, Mart, CultureKing, realisticidealist, gporter, bullmoose88, nclib, Ogre Mage, KyleGordon2016, Smash255)
AHDuke99 (RPP)	13.00	(NiK, JBrase, Torie, fezzyfestoon, dead0man, BigBadFab, nickjbor, Ronnie, cinyc, North Carolina Yankee, BrandonH, DWTL, North Carolina Yankee, )
Fritz (JCP)	10.00	(Fritz, BRTD, Boris, Ebowed, Lief, Franken, xavier110, Marokai Blue, Eraserhead, bgwah,)
afleitch (DA)	10.00	(Franzl, Swedish Cheese, Tmthforu94, xfactor99, Deldem, Frodo, AndrewCT, John Dibble, Gustaf, afleitch)
Barnes (DA)	6.00	(Barnes, HappyWarrior, Antonio V, italian-boy, Hashemite, Purple State)
Sewer Socialist (LNF)	4.00	(Dr. Cynic, EarlAW, Sewer Socialist, sbane)
Jas (LNF)	4.00	(Lewis Trondheim, Senator Conor Flynn, Al, ilikeverin)
Vepres (Ind)	3.00	(Vepres, A-Bob, MagneticFree)
DWTL (RPP)	2.00	(Inks.LWC, Daniel Adams)
Al (LNF)	1.00	(silent_spade07)

You have me listed twice.

D'OH!

I meant Duke.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Since when was Hamilton our "leader"?

Unfortunately, the same way people always view DWTL is our leader, no matter who is driving the ship. No one  has made as conscious of an effort as Mr. Hamilton at trying to bring me down in recent months. Don't get me wrong, some of the things I've done in the past are embarrassing and stupid, and he's done his best to bring out all my dirty laundry for a while. I have no qualms with you or Mint (we once talked a good bit, but I haven't heard from him in a while), but it kind of makes me feel uncomfortable voting or supporting a guy who has done as much as he's tried to do to somehow hurt me, which is why I can understand, especially now, why some people may feel the same way about DWTL, though he hasn't tried to dig up dirt on people, I don't believe.

In short, if you are interested in me joining the party, and if some of you think I'd be better suited in the ARC (which, ideologically, is probably true), don't try to antagonize me. I really have no problems working with people like you, Einzign.

[Vepres]

Um, you are aware that the RPP and ARC candidates have received pretty much the same number of votes, right?

Yes, I'm just sick that somebody as respectable as AHDuke is coming to DWTL's defense this strongly. He would be much better served with us.
But this trend is going to continue, the end of the RPP, if they keep on stomaching characters like DWTL, RowanBrandon, Yankee, and others like them.

The RPP is done with. It has been for quite some time. The question is not whether the RPP can return to strength, but what structure will replace it. Will the ARC absorb the bulk of its membership, with residuals in the LNF and DA? Will a new Atlasian right emerge?

Should be interesting over the next few months.

Many in the RPP will not join the ARC under any circumstances.

Many in the SDP will not join the JCP under any circumstances.

Except the JCP was a long established party that had more than three active members and zombies.

[Purple State]

There are what... like three social conservatives in the entire JCP?

If one includes the populist wing of the DA, there are at least seven.

JCP and DA are two entirely different things.

Not really. At the very least it would weaken the JCP by proxy.

You can say it all you want, but you haven't actually addressed a single point I have presented that completely undermines your argument.

Of course, I have never come to expect anything more than ideological ravings from you, so at least you are consistent.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I find it interesting that Fritz has not received any cross-party first-preferences.

[Mechaman]

Um, you are aware that the RPP and ARC candidates have received pretty much the same number of votes, right?

Yes, I'm just sick that somebody as respectable as AHDuke is coming to DWTL's defense this strongly. He would be much better served with us.
But this trend is going to continue, the end of the RPP, if they keep on stomaching characters like DWTL, RowanBrandon, Yankee, and others like them.

The RPP is done with. It has been for quite some time. The question is not whether the RPP can return to strength, but what structure will replace it. Will the ARC absorb the bulk of its membership, with residuals in the LNF and DA? Will a new Atlasian right emerge?

Should be interesting over the next few months.

Many in the RPP will not join the ARC under any circumstances.

Many in the SDP will not join the JCP under any circumstances.

Except the JCP was a long established party that had more than three active members and zombies.

Oh really? If we are such a zombie party then explain why so far in my gubernatorial bid I have received the endorsements of the JCP and the DA? The truth has come out and you can't handle it.

[Sewer]

Oh really? If we are such a zombie party then explain why so far in my gubernatorial bid I have received the endorsements of the JCP and the DA?

And the LNF.